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zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
October 11 2010 20:05 GMT
#1321
On October 12 2010 02:57 ZlaSHeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2010 02:47 metigue wrote:
Zenith are like the upset-clan

Lol, But didn't oGstop do that troll thread death game thing and beat ALL of Zenith?


Upset clan? or maybe they're GOOD.


Being an "upset clan" doesn't necessary mean they are randoms, or one hit wonders. It just means that Zenith, being a more underdog clan, has shown that their clan have players capable of taking out fan favorites.
UnholyRai
Profile Joined September 2010
720 Posts
October 11 2010 20:11 GMT
#1322
On October 12 2010 04:57 Bulkers wrote:
sSKS I can bet top8 in GSL2 will be only Terran and Zerg players.

I'll take you up on that bet.
Gogo Grubby.
Piledriver
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1697 Posts
October 11 2010 20:18 GMT
#1323
Orc needed all these boosts because they were so weak. Even after Grubby appeared and started showing people that Orc actually had a chance to do well he still at one point was seriously talking about changing races because Orc was so bad.


Grubby was always a whiner, though he puts on a facade of being decent and mannered now. I remember him going emo-mode on his blog and converting the lyrics of Linkin Park's (lol) In the end into an orc whine song.

Truth be told, Grubby was just an fan favorite on the euro scene , but skillwise was just another average orc until Zacard showed the true power of orc. In fact if you watched his older replays, Grubby never built a single raider unless he was going for some sort of base trade.Then zacard appeared on the scene and showed the power of grunt raider and blademaster and then Grubby basically copied that strat and refined it a bit. He has not changed that strat even once to this day. In fact I would go as far as to say that Grubby is the least creative player to have played wc3 at the pro level.

Meanwhile all the repeated orc buffs and the destroyer nerf/bug fix in 1.14 simply screwed UD vs Orc to an unplayable state. AFAIK after those nerfs, the only UD to win a tournament internationally was Lucifer (ESWC 2006). Every other tournament was won by Human or orc. Even Moon was having trouble and after repeated elf nerfs, even Orc vs elf was becoming favored for the orc , especially after staff nerf, dryad xp nerf and orb of venom nerf.

In short, repeated nerfs to other races and non stop buffs for orc made wc3 into a shit game that it is today.
Envy fan since NTH.
luckybeni2
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany1065 Posts
October 11 2010 20:22 GMT
#1324
On October 12 2010 05:18 Piledriver wrote:
Show nested quote +
Orc needed all these boosts because they were so weak. Even after Grubby appeared and started showing people that Orc actually had a chance to do well he still at one point was seriously talking about changing races because Orc was so bad.


Grubby was always a whiner, though he puts on a facade of being decent and mannered now. I remember him going emo-mode on his blog and converting the lyrics of Linkin Park's (lol) In the end into an orc whine song.

Truth be told, Grubby was just an fan favorite on the euro scene , but skillwise was just another average orc until Zacard showed the true power of orc. In fact if you watched his older replays, Grubby never built a single raider unless he was going for some sort of base trade.Then zacard appeared on the scene and showed the power of grunt raider and blademaster and then Grubby basically copied that strat and refined it a bit. He has not changed that strat even once to this day. In fact I would go as far as to say that Grubby is the least creative player to have played wc3 at the pro level.

Meanwhile all the repeated orc buffs and the destroyer nerf/bug fix in 1.14 simply screwed UD vs Orc to an unplayable state. AFAIK after those nerfs, the only UD to win a tournament internationally was Lucifer (ESWC 2006). Every other tournament was won by Human or orc. Even Moon was having trouble and after repeated elf nerfs, even Orc vs elf was becoming favored for the orc , especially after staff nerf, dryad xp nerf and orb of venom nerf.

In short, repeated nerfs to other races and non stop buffs for orc made wc3 into a shit game that it is today.

Could you guys please post about WC somewhere else? This is the GSL and just because they have WC pros competing does not mean we have to read about some balance issus in a different game. There have been like 50 posts about this topic already in the GSL thread.

TLO Figting!!! (of course^^)
greenjohn
Profile Joined October 2009
Austria18 Posts
October 11 2010 20:34 GMT
#1325
this is not true. there were numerous patches that helped orc, directly or indirectly. tower build repair time, elf staff nerfs, spirit walkers gaining resistant skin (cant cylone them), and above all, patch 1.17, where the blademaster gained the ability to walk through units


You can cyclone spirit walkers. Those changes were not very significant for balance of Orc, apart from fixing broken things which overpowered the race that used them. Undead is still doing poorly, even though those changes could be said to have helped them just the same.

http://img299.imageshack.us/i/walkerinair.jpg/

KristianJS
Profile Joined October 2009
2107 Posts
October 11 2010 20:36 GMT
#1326
When is Nada playing?
You need to be 100% behind someone before you can stab them in the back
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
October 11 2010 20:55 GMT
#1327
On October 12 2010 05:36 KristianJS wrote:
When is Nada playing?

tonight.
ModeratorFlash Sea Action Snow Midas | TheStC Ret Tyler MC | RIP 우정호
oldahe
Profile Joined May 2010
Austria534 Posts
October 11 2010 20:57 GMT
#1328
TLO qualified!!!!!!!!!!!! im so happy gogo finale!!
cjgone
Profile Joined July 2010
United States62 Posts
October 11 2010 22:22 GMT
#1329
Oh my, tester didn't make it? He's my favorite protoss player. :\
Hi
AmiPolizeiFunk
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany804 Posts
October 11 2010 22:25 GMT
#1330
So happy for TLO!!! Way to go T L O!
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
October 11 2010 22:32 GMT
#1331
grats TLO!
Pintos
Profile Joined September 2010
United States39 Posts
October 11 2010 22:45 GMT
#1332
Grats to TLO!

Foreigners HWAITING.
Smile.
Maynarde
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1286 Posts
October 11 2010 23:13 GMT
#1333
Holy check, no Cella
CommentatorAustralian SC2 Caster | Twitter: @MaynardeSC2 | Twitch: twitch.tv/maynarde
IPA
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3206 Posts
October 11 2010 23:19 GMT
#1334
Go Check and FruitVendor. Let's make it two for two.
Time held me green and dying though I sang in my chains like the sea.
happyness
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2400 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-11 23:21:21
October 11 2010 23:19 GMT
#1335
and above all, patch 1.17, where the blademaster gained the ability to walk through units




The reason I stopped playing Warcraft3
happyness
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2400 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-11 23:21:03
October 11 2010 23:20 GMT
#1336
woops, ignore
joonp
Profile Joined October 2010
United States105 Posts
October 11 2010 23:20 GMT
#1337
did cella get knocked out by Clide?
pieman819
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia457 Posts
October 11 2010 23:23 GMT
#1338
On October 12 2010 08:20 joonp wrote:
did cella get knocked out by Clide?

yes
Hi
ptz
Profile Joined January 2005
Romania251 Posts
October 11 2010 23:39 GMT
#1339
if grubby was korean he wouldnt have won shit. I remember his stint in korea where he was bamboozled on maps that were bugged to favour orc. He just has a huge fanbase as one of the top non koreans and annoying fanboys.
Also you should remember grubby played as human in roc, since it was the best race and changed back to orc in ft once human was getting demolished early by elf. The metagame changed allot since then, but orc is overpowered for more than 3 years now in wc3, getting to see lameass players like violet or focus win games is just depressing. Orc is the only race to have a freewin matchup(hi undeads) and no weaker matchups. Anyways, wc3 is pretty dead now, especially if the likes of moon and lyn officially switch to sc2.

On topic, rooting for Nada tomorrow, and even tho the terran lineup seems scary with the likes of intotherainbow, maka and ensnare, still hoping for some race diversity among the ones that get to ro64.
iGX
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia414 Posts
October 11 2010 23:56 GMT
#1340
Tester didn't make it this time?

get out of here
When your bases are ashes...then you have my permission to "GG".
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