EPTBeing an "upset clan" doesn't necessary mean they are randoms, or one hit wonders. It just means that Zenith, being a more underdog clan, has shown that their clan have players capable of taking out fan favorites.
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zoLo
United States5896 Posts
Being an "upset clan" doesn't necessary mean they are randoms, or one hit wonders. It just means that Zenith, being a more underdog clan, has shown that their clan have players capable of taking out fan favorites. | ||
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UnholyRai
720 Posts
On October 12 2010 04:57 Bulkers wrote: sSKS  I can bet top8 in GSL2 will be only Terran and Zerg players.I'll take you up on that bet. | ||
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Piledriver
United States1697 Posts
Orc needed all these boosts because they were so weak. Even after Grubby appeared and started showing people that Orc actually had a chance to do well he still at one point was seriously talking about changing races because Orc was so bad. Grubby was always a whiner, though he puts on a facade of being decent and mannered now. I remember him going emo-mode on his blog and converting the lyrics of Linkin Park's (lol) In the end into an orc whine song. Truth be told, Grubby was just an fan favorite on the euro scene , but skillwise was just another average orc until Zacard showed the true power of orc. In fact if you watched his older replays, Grubby never built a single raider unless he was going for some sort of base trade.Then zacard appeared on the scene and showed the power of grunt raider and blademaster and then Grubby basically copied that strat and refined it a bit. He has not changed that strat even once to this day. In fact I would go as far as to say that Grubby is the least creative player to have played wc3 at the pro level. Meanwhile all the repeated orc buffs and the destroyer nerf/bug fix in 1.14 simply screwed UD vs Orc to an unplayable state. AFAIK after those nerfs, the only UD to win a tournament internationally was Lucifer (ESWC 2006). Every other tournament was won by Human or orc. Even Moon was having trouble and after repeated elf nerfs, even Orc vs elf was becoming favored for the orc , especially after staff nerf, dryad xp nerf and orb of venom nerf. In short, repeated nerfs to other races and non stop buffs for orc made wc3 into a shit game that it is today. | ||
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luckybeni2
Germany1065 Posts
On October 12 2010 05:18 Piledriver wrote: Grubby was always a whiner, though he puts on a facade of being decent and mannered now. I remember him going emo-mode on his blog and converting the lyrics of Linkin Park's (lol) In the end into an orc whine song. Truth be told, Grubby was just an fan favorite on the euro scene , but skillwise was just another average orc until Zacard showed the true power of orc. In fact if you watched his older replays, Grubby never built a single raider unless he was going for some sort of base trade.Then zacard appeared on the scene and showed the power of grunt raider and blademaster and then Grubby basically copied that strat and refined it a bit. He has not changed that strat even once to this day. In fact I would go as far as to say that Grubby is the least creative player to have played wc3 at the pro level. Meanwhile all the repeated orc buffs and the destroyer nerf/bug fix in 1.14 simply screwed UD vs Orc to an unplayable state. AFAIK after those nerfs, the only UD to win a tournament internationally was Lucifer (ESWC 2006). Every other tournament was won by Human or orc. Even Moon was having trouble and after repeated elf nerfs, even Orc vs elf was becoming favored for the orc , especially after staff nerf, dryad xp nerf and orb of venom nerf. In short, repeated nerfs to other races and non stop buffs for orc made wc3 into a shit game that it is today. Could you guys please post about WC somewhere else? This is the GSL and just because they have WC pros competing does not mean we have to read about some balance issus in a different game. There have been like 50 posts about this topic already in the GSL thread. TLO Figting!!! (of course^^) | ||
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greenjohn
Austria18 Posts
this is not true. there were numerous patches that helped orc, directly or indirectly. tower build repair time, elf staff nerfs, spirit walkers gaining resistant skin (cant cylone them), and above all, patch 1.17, where the blademaster gained the ability to walk through units You can cyclone spirit walkers. Those changes were not very significant for balance of Orc, apart from fixing broken things which overpowered the race that used them. Undead is still doing poorly, even though those changes could be said to have helped them just the same. http://img299.imageshack.us/i/walkerinair.jpg/ | ||
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KristianJS
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Antoine
United States7481 Posts
On October 12 2010 05:36 KristianJS wrote: When is Nada playing? tonight. | ||
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oldahe
Austria534 Posts
 gogo finale!! | ||
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cjgone
United States62 Posts
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AmiPolizeiFunk
Germany804 Posts
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thedeadhaji
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Pintos
United States39 Posts
Foreigners HWAITING. | ||
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Maynarde
Australia1286 Posts
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IPA
United States3206 Posts
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happyness
United States2400 Posts
and above all, patch 1.17, where the blademaster gained the ability to walk through units The reason I stopped playing Warcraft3 | ||
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happyness
United States2400 Posts
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joonp
United States105 Posts
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pieman819
Australia457 Posts
On October 12 2010 08:20 joonp wrote: did cella get knocked out by Clide? yes | ||
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ptz
Romania251 Posts
Also you should remember grubby played as human in roc, since it was the best race and changed back to orc in ft once human was getting demolished early by elf. The metagame changed allot since then, but orc is overpowered for more than 3 years now in wc3, getting to see lameass players like violet or focus win games is just depressing. Orc is the only race to have a freewin matchup(hi undeads) and no weaker matchups. Anyways, wc3 is pretty dead now, especially if the likes of moon and lyn officially switch to sc2. On topic, rooting for Nada tomorrow, and even tho the terran lineup seems scary with the likes of intotherainbow, maka and ensnare, still hoping for some race diversity among the ones that get to ro64. | ||
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iGX
Australia414 Posts
get out of here | ||
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