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GSL Season 2 Qualifiers Day 2 - Page 10

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Pyrthas
Profile Joined March 2007
United States3196 Posts
October 10 2010 05:57 GMT
#181
On October 10 2010 14:39 RotterdaM wrote:
So cloud = rohjinwook = Michael = Lucifers ( Wc3 former pro ud & ESWC Champion ) brother? o_o Thats cool, oh and Using Soju's id at this forum is not cool -.-
The irony of writing this in a post that talks about people that go by Cloud and Lucifer is probably lost on you, which is too bad.
foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2337 Posts
October 10 2010 06:02 GMT
#182
On October 10 2010 13:56 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
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Edit: oh by the way, if I'm not mistaken, TLO was a complete nobody when everyone fell in love with him. Imagine if he didn't get to play that tourny cause some other "named" player had automatically got a spot?

He was actually invited into the tournament you are talking about, so its a bad example


Lol, fair enough! Does the first half of my sentence still hold hold true? I was under the impression he was pretty much unknown by the community, but he produced some incredibly interesting games. This was the main point I was trying to make.
foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2337 Posts
October 10 2010 06:08 GMT
#183
On October 10 2010 14:07 Spicy Pepper wrote:
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On October 10 2010 13:41 foxmeep wrote:
Not at all. but in general the better player is going to win. Especially since you have to play through several rounds to make it. But to be honest, I only like to see the top players play. In my opinion, if you can't make it to ro64, regardless of cheese, you really aren't a top player.

I'm not discrediting Moon or anyone else's talents for that matter (July/Nada/Boxer for example, if they don't make it), but right now he's probably not as good as he can be, and he shouldn't just be seeded in cause he's not in good enough form yet to make it. He'll probably have his turn next season, but this time round there are better players.

There's this concept called variance. Your opinion would be less silly if you understood it. Cheese is high variance, bad players can beat better players with it. Unorthodox strategies also happen. This is a very new game, the best player in the world right now could get knocked out in the qualifiers.

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Sure there's the viewership aspect of having a "big name" in the tourny (this is debatable because I don't care if names make it or not), but on the flip side you have to remember people are coming from across the world to qualify. It's not exactly fair to have some players automatically qualify without having any previous results.

These big names have previous results in something closely related. That's why they are big names.

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Edit: oh by the way, if I'm not mistaken, TLO was a complete nobody when everyone fell in love with him. Imagine if he didn't get to play that tourny cause some other "named" player had automatically got a spot?

What if instead of TLO, it's some #900th ranked guy who cheesed his way in? What if the big name is TLO? Let's play What If.

I have no problem with the format currently, but it's a completely reasonable argument to give certain players invites if you believe it'll better help launch your brand/business/e-sport.


Cute attempt to try come across as an intelligent poster. Starcraft isn't a game based around statistics unfortunately.
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-10 06:11:18
October 10 2010 06:10 GMT
#184
정종현(MVP) is a member of Incredible Miracle, 박용준 is a member of oGs
ModeratorFlash Sea Action Snow Midas | TheStC Ret Tyler MC | RIP 우정호
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51620 Posts
October 10 2010 06:12 GMT
#185
LiberoPrime is the former Human WC3 player Rainbow right?
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Tercotta
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada402 Posts
October 10 2010 06:12 GMT
#186
So are we going to have to refer to this Savior as a "Saior the smurf" forever or can we come up with an english nickname please.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51620 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-10 06:16:52
October 10 2010 06:13 GMT
#187
On October 10 2010 15:10 Antoine wrote:
정종현(MVP) is a member of Incredible Miracle, 박용준 is a member of oGs


Terran (박용준) is their newest recruit actually, he won the oGs recruiting tournament and was invited on the team. He has over 1.5k games as well, which is impressive.
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andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
October 10 2010 06:14 GMT
#188
On October 10 2010 15:12 Tercotta wrote:
So are we going to have to refer to this Savior as a "Saior the smurf" forever or can we come up with an english nickname please.



Freeman Savior, imo.
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
October 10 2010 06:15 GMT
#189
On October 10 2010 15:13 GTR wrote:
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On October 10 2010 15:10 Antoine wrote:
정종현(MVP) is a member of Incredible Miracle, 박용준 is a member of oGs


Terran (박용준) is their newest recruit actually, he performed well enough in the oGs recruiting tournament to be invited on the team. He has over 1.5k games as well, which is impressive.

oh yeah, that was streamed on the last day of Gisado's stream before he moved (the day when he did all shakuras/junglebasin in his koth)
ModeratorFlash Sea Action Snow Midas | TheStC Ret Tyler MC | RIP 우정호
Pyrthas
Profile Joined March 2007
United States3196 Posts
October 10 2010 06:19 GMT
#190
Hate to root against the newest oGs member, but come on, Rage, let's see you back in action!
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-10 06:24:45
October 10 2010 06:24 GMT
#191
On October 10 2010 14:52 Antoine wrote:
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On October 10 2010 14:49 Caphe wrote:
On October 10 2010 14:45 Ocedic wrote:
I really hope MVP makes it. Not familiar with his play in BW but apparently he's one of the top players from the 'recent' generation of BW pros?

No, MVP was never a top player in BW by any mean. He has his moment and thats it a B-/B player at most in BW

B-/B? You're crazy, he reached A+ on iccup and had a respectable (not good) 40% winrate, including a game off Flash

You misunderstood me, every B team players on any pro BW house can reach A+ no problem. I didnt talk about ICCUP rank, I mean the rank among the pro gamers.
S rank: Flash/Jaedong
A rank: Fantasy etc.... by that I think MVP B-/B is just right
Terran
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
October 10 2010 06:25 GMT
#192
I find it odd that we're almost halfway through the qualifiers and almost nobody from GSL 1's top 16 has played yet, not to mention the 3 decorated BW pros (Boxer, July, NaDa). Are the later brackets that stacked?
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3890 Posts
October 10 2010 06:27 GMT
#193
On October 10 2010 15:25 andrewlt wrote:
I find it odd that we're almost halfway through the qualifiers and almost nobody from GSL 1's top 16 has played yet, not to mention the 3 decorated BW pros (Boxer, July, NaDa). Are the later brackets that stacked?


It would really suck if we see them all fight for like 5-6 spots and the ro64 looks like gsl1

biggest problem with it is we won't see the games ... boxer vs tlo to get into gsl..???... and we get nothing would suck
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51620 Posts
October 10 2010 06:29 GMT
#194
On October 10 2010 15:25 andrewlt wrote:
I find it odd that we're almost halfway through the qualifiers and almost nobody from GSL 1's top 16 has played yet, not to mention the 3 decorated BW pros (Boxer, July, NaDa). Are the later brackets that stacked?


LiveForever isn't playing as he has to study for SAT's or something.
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Crt
Profile Joined November 2009
247 Posts
October 10 2010 06:30 GMT
#195
Referring people by their nick is a sign of respect. Are "we" already disrespecting the guy because of his nick?
z00t
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia976 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-10 06:33:44
October 10 2010 06:32 GMT
#196
I'm also seriously hoping that we won't get really stacked brackets coming up :[.

If there are 128 total participants per group, and there are 4 groups a day, that means that there are 512 people competing each day. Over the course of 4 days, that means only a total of 2048 participants, despite 2500+ people registering.

Of those people who aren't showing up for the qualifiers, I really hope that there's not a large fallout in the 250+ foreigners stated to have registered. So far, we've seen so few non-Korean names :[. If they made the commitment to come to Korea, I would have thought we'd definitely be seeing more of their names in these brackets by now.
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
October 10 2010 06:33 GMT
#197
On October 10 2010 15:24 Caphe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2010 14:52 Antoine wrote:
On October 10 2010 14:49 Caphe wrote:
On October 10 2010 14:45 Ocedic wrote:
I really hope MVP makes it. Not familiar with his play in BW but apparently he's one of the top players from the 'recent' generation of BW pros?

No, MVP was never a top player in BW by any mean. He has his moment and thats it a B-/B player at most in BW

B-/B? You're crazy, he reached A+ on iccup and had a respectable (not good) 40% winrate, including a game off Flash

You misunderstood me, every B team players on any pro BW house can reach A+ no problem. I didnt talk about ICCUP rank, I mean the rank among the pro gamers.
S rank: Flash/Jaedong
A rank: Fantasy etc.... by that I think MVP B-/B is just right

oh right on, i can agree to that
anyway he's currently stomping through the graphics, has won every match 2-0 so far and needs to win 1 more bo3 to qualify.
ModeratorFlash Sea Action Snow Midas | TheStC Ret Tyler MC | RIP 우정호
Baarn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2702 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-10 06:36:16
October 10 2010 06:34 GMT
#198
On October 10 2010 15:30 Crt wrote:
Referring people by their nick is a sign of respect. Are "we" already disrespecting the guy because of his nick?


Well when people see sAviOr they can't help but think of the player involved in the scandal. So the bastard brought this upon himself. Maybe he could come up with another nick?
There's no S in KT. :P
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
October 10 2010 06:35 GMT
#199
On October 10 2010 15:29 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2010 15:25 andrewlt wrote:
I find it odd that we're almost halfway through the qualifiers and almost nobody from GSL 1's top 16 has played yet, not to mention the 3 decorated BW pros (Boxer, July, NaDa). Are the later brackets that stacked?


LiveForever isn't playing as he has to study for SAT's or something.



Yeah and Hyperdub qualified just now. So it means 20 out of the 64 are already set but 14 out of the previous GSL's top 16 are unaccounted for (they either haven't played their games yet, didn't join this round and nobody knew, etc.).
SKtheAnathema
Profile Joined September 2010
United States885 Posts
October 10 2010 06:35 GMT
#200
let's go zerggggggggggg!!
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