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[SEA] WD PSI Storm Finals

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deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-04 00:27:21
October 04 2010 00:26 GMT
#1
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(Wiki)WD Psi Storm 2010

After four hard-fought qualifiers, each boasting between 200 and 450 signups, the best players in SEA and Oceania have been distilled down the top 32 to compete in the Western Digital Psi Storm finals series. The event, sponsored by WD's VelociRaptor hard drives, will span two days of double-elimination, best-of-three action from the in-form players on the Southeast Asia server.

The 32 players, advancing eight at a time from four qualifiers, comprise of representitives from Australia (20), New Zealand (5), Singapore (3), Thailand (2), Malaysia (1) and the Philippines (1) and represent some of the strongest players from these nations.

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Day One of the WD Psi Storm 2010 Finals will commence on Saturday the 9th of October, with the first 3 rounds of the upper bracket to be played from 6PM AEDT. This means play stops at the Round-of-Four (Ro4) on the Upper Bracket.

Additionally, the first four rounds of the lower bracket will be completed.

Summary
  • Saturday the 9th of October UB Round 1 to 3 completed (stop at Ro4)
  • Saturday the 9th of October LB Round 1 to 4 completed
  • [image loading] 9th Oct., 6:00PM AEDT
  • [image loading] 9th Oct., 8:00PM NZDT
  • [image loading] [image loading] [image loading] 9th Oct., 3:00PM GMT+8
  • [image loading] 9th Oct., 2:00PM GMT+7

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Day Two of the WD Psi Storm 2010 Finals will commence on Sunday the 10th of October, with theupper bracket semi-final and finals to be played from 5PM AEDT and round 5 to the lower bracket final to be played at the same time as possible. The Grand Final will also be played on Sunday the 10th, and will consist of two Bo5 sets. The winner of the UB final is required to win one Bo5 series whereas the LB winner must win both to take the grand prize.

Summary
  • Sunday the 10th of October UB semi-final and final
  • Sunday the 10th of October LB round 5 to LB final (4 rounds)
  • Sunday the 10th of October Grand Final - 2x BO5, winner of UB must win once, LB qualifier must win twice
  • [image loading] 10th Oct., 5:00PM AEDT
  • [image loading] 10th Oct., 7:00PM NZDT
  • [image loading] [image loading] [image loading] 10th Oct., 2:00PM GMT+8
  • [image loading] 10th Oct., 1:00PM GMT+7

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From the Liquipedia article on the WD Psi Storm Finals
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The Bracket
http://challonge.com/psf0910

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The WD Psi Storm 2010 Finals will be covered from replays (to discourage unfair play) on CyberGamer's MatchTV across various channels.

CG MatchTV Channel #1 - Tobiwankenobi and Pandan
CG MatchTV Channel #2 - Unstable and Sephyre
CG MatchTV Channel #3 - DaMaN and kitfox

If you miss the live cast, VODs will be available on the CyberGamer YouTube Channel

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Special thanks go out of course to the sole sponsors of the WD Psi Storm 2010 event, Western Digital with their VelociRaptor high performance hard drives. Without our sponsors Western Digital this event would not be possible, so be sure to express your appreciation. Find out more about Western Digital on their website - www.westerndigital.com



Original post on CyberGamer.com.au
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RefleX746
Profile Joined August 2010
New Zealand96 Posts
October 04 2010 01:08 GMT
#2
I cant wait!





...to get stomped by glade
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
October 04 2010 02:08 GMT
#3
On October 04 2010 10:08 RefleX746 wrote:
I cant wait!





...to get stomped by glade

Hey man just tell people it's your plan to drop down to the Lower Bracket early to pick up some momentum going into the final.
Gaming videos for fun ~ http://www.youtube.com/user/WijLopenLos
BEARDiaguz
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia2362 Posts
October 04 2010 02:12 GMT
#4
Just cheese him one game, then play greedy the next. 2-0 that mutherfucka.
ProgamerAustralian alcohol user follow @iaguzSC2
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51480 Posts
October 04 2010 02:16 GMT
#5
or off-race terran and 5rax reaper.
Commentator
Alegzandur
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Philippines52 Posts
October 04 2010 02:39 GMT
#6
Rofl, only Filipino draws RedArchon first round XD ah well, should be some good matches all around!
RefleX746
Profile Joined August 2010
New Zealand96 Posts
October 04 2010 02:50 GMT
#7
On October 04 2010 11:12 iaguz wrote:
Just cheese him one game, then play greedy the next. 2-0 that mutherfucka.


Yeah true, glades got a one way ticket to the loser brackets.
Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
October 04 2010 03:09 GMT
#8
markpopo Fighting!
I don't think I've ever wished my opponent good luck prior to a game. When I play, I play to win. I hope every opponent I ever have is cursed with fucking terrible luck. I hope they're stuck playing underneath a stepladder with a black cat in attendance a
Rampager
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia1007 Posts
October 04 2010 03:15 GMT
#9
In the words of gretorp, I'm pretty excite. Good luck, ladies and gentlemen!
Wawa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States215 Posts
October 04 2010 03:31 GMT
#10
GOGOGO markpopo!!!
www.youtube.com/wawastarcraft
iceiceice
Profile Joined August 2010
Singapore12 Posts
October 04 2010 05:16 GMT
#11
is there anyway i can still take part in this? missed qualifier 4 due to wcg TT
ice with tea
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
October 04 2010 05:26 GMT
#12
Nope that's all of the qualifiers sorry ;(

If a top32 player contacts me beforehand and can't make it there may be a playoff involving semi-finalists from that qualifier so if you got that far in any that is your only chance.
Gaming videos for fun ~ http://www.youtube.com/user/WijLopenLos
iceiceice
Profile Joined August 2010
Singapore12 Posts
October 04 2010 05:42 GMT
#13
alright, thanks!
ice with tea
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-04 12:35:33
October 04 2010 12:34 GMT
#14
Guys anyone who only made it to the semi-finals of this event please post here if you are interested in entering the 'second chance' competition.

People who sign up in this way and turn up on time will play off for the right to replace any no-show or disqualified players.

Please include your CyberGamer ID, the bracket/qualifier in which you achieved a semi-final placing, and your SEA and NA Bnet IDs either in your post or in a PM to me.
Gaming videos for fun ~ http://www.youtube.com/user/WijLopenLos
pevergreen
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia252 Posts
October 04 2010 14:56 GMT
#15
Gogo DoMo!

And RefleX and legion.

They're the only ones that have talked to me.

But mostly DoMo. ^_^
aLt)nirvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Singapore846 Posts
October 04 2010 15:25 GMT
#16
markpopo ftw!!
sc2sea.com - The SEA / ANZ community
ZenDeX
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Philippines2916 Posts
October 04 2010 15:31 GMT
#17
Markpopo hwaiting!

Believe!
Zepthus
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1 Post
October 04 2010 15:50 GMT
#18
leg will win if he doesnt get cheesed by all in terrans
MannerMan
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
371 Posts
October 09 2010 06:05 GMT
#19
So will the replays be broadcast in an hour or will the matches be played in an hour? If it is the latter when will the broadcast be up?
Ftrunkz
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Australia2474 Posts
October 09 2010 06:07 GMT
#20
there's been some matches played early so the cast will likely start right on 6aedt (starting time of the tourny)
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Unstable87
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia226 Posts
October 09 2010 06:25 GMT
#21
Broadcast will start at 6aedt sharp! we have a couple of people play early so no downtime :D!
FXOUnstable
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
October 09 2010 07:00 GMT
#22
Very cool, curious how good the best of SEA is! Sure, people say they're the "weakest server" but I bet their top players will still have some interesting stuff to show us! Looking forward to it!
chippie
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia61 Posts
October 09 2010 07:06 GMT
#23
The stream sucks

User was temp banned for this post.
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
October 09 2010 07:16 GMT
#24
On October 09 2010 16:06 chippie wrote:
The stream sucks

Your post history is amazing and this really caps it off.
Gaming videos for fun ~ http://www.youtube.com/user/WijLopenLos
jabK
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia118 Posts
October 09 2010 07:28 GMT
#25
not going to lie, i can hardly stand listening to unstable commentate
MatiNO
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia327 Posts
October 09 2010 07:31 GMT
#26
^y?
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
October 09 2010 07:32 GMT
#27
Prob a bunch of 2bh guys coming in to talk trash.
Gaming videos for fun ~ http://www.youtube.com/user/WijLopenLos
jabK
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia118 Posts
October 09 2010 07:34 GMT
#28
not talking trash, he is so unbearable to listen to, its like he hardly knows the game and laughs at the dumbest shit.. just posting facts on how to improve the quality of viewing
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
October 09 2010 07:54 GMT
#29
On October 09 2010 16:34 jabK wrote:
not talking trash, he is so unbearable to listen to, its like he hardly knows the game and laughs at the dumbest shit.. just posting facts on how to improve the quality of viewing

On October 09 2010 16:28 jabK wrote:
i can hardly stand listening to unstable commentate

Please, spare us your technical details!
Gaming videos for fun ~ http://www.youtube.com/user/WijLopenLos
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
October 09 2010 08:09 GMT
#30
On October 05 2010 00:31 lolaloc wrote:
Markpopo hwaiting!

Believe!

I am eternally shamed to have been eliminated from the qualifier by him.

I blame going all-in twice.
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
October 09 2010 08:10 GMT
#31
On October 09 2010 17:09 Dfgj wrote:
I blame going all-in twice.

It's the Singapore way!
Gaming videos for fun ~ http://www.youtube.com/user/WijLopenLos
PulseNova
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia29 Posts
October 09 2010 08:12 GMT
#32
Upset city.
6pool ftw
jabK
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia118 Posts
October 09 2010 08:22 GMT
#33
On October 09 2010 16:54 deL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2010 16:34 jabK wrote:
not talking trash, he is so unbearable to listen to, its like he hardly knows the game and laughs at the dumbest shit.. just posting facts on how to improve the quality of viewing

Show nested quote +
On October 09 2010 16:28 jabK wrote:
i can hardly stand listening to unstable commentate

Please, spare us your technical details!



so you wouldn't consider the commentator as being a part of the viewing experience?

+ Show Spoiler +
it is
Nuri
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand280 Posts
October 09 2010 08:24 GMT
#34
why are u people arguing? wtf unstable does this for SEA community on his spare time and hes probably the best one out there with the best viewing experience. Stop complaining or dont watch at all. no one is forcing you to watch
The biggest risk in life is not taking any risks at all
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-09 08:27:39
October 09 2010 08:25 GMT
#35
On October 09 2010 17:22 jabK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2010 16:54 deL wrote:
On October 09 2010 16:34 jabK wrote:
not talking trash, he is so unbearable to listen to, its like he hardly knows the game and laughs at the dumbest shit.. just posting facts on how to improve the quality of viewing

On October 09 2010 16:28 jabK wrote:
i can hardly stand listening to unstable commentate

Please, spare us your technical details!



so you wouldn't consider the commentator as being a part of the viewing experience?

+ Show Spoiler +
it is

Read again - I was implying you need to post details so your feedback is constructive instead of coming across as whinging.

Believe me both myself and Unstable are open to feedback but when your beef is either cos he badmouthed your mate, or you just don't like his style or voice then you can get lost - if however you have some constructive tips to improve we can take them on board.
Gaming videos for fun ~ http://www.youtube.com/user/WijLopenLos
Yoz
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia357 Posts
October 09 2010 08:45 GMT
#36
Yoz's not-really-constructive feedback:
Unstable - Your girlfriend needs either a bodyguard or a car so casts aren't interrupted by random lifts being required
Paz - You need a better ISP. What the hell?
deL - You need those cool admins like the ones that do that SEA Open
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
October 09 2010 08:50 GMT
#37
On October 09 2010 17:10 deL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2010 17:09 Dfgj wrote:
I blame going all-in twice.

It's the Singapore way!

It was round 5 I was tired
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
October 09 2010 08:58 GMT
#38
On October 09 2010 17:45 Yoz wrote:
deL - You need those cool admins like the ones that do that SEA Open

None really come to mind... just can't think of any that fit this description...
Gaming videos for fun ~ http://www.youtube.com/user/WijLopenLos
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
October 09 2010 09:07 GMT
#39
My man soft tearing up the bracket.

Every rush he does has been used on me a hundredfold in practice games

deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
October 09 2010 09:30 GMT
#40
On October 09 2010 18:07 Dfgj wrote:
My man soft tearing up the bracket.

Every rush he does has been used on me a hundredfold in practice games


Yeah he came out of nowhere in the qualifier and left a path of destruction on the way to the finals - very impressive.
Gaming videos for fun ~ http://www.youtube.com/user/WijLopenLos
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
October 09 2010 12:01 GMT
#41
whats going on with the last 2 matches?
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
Jumbled
Profile Joined September 2010
1543 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-09 12:04:18
October 09 2010 12:04 GMT
#42

Read again - I was implying you need to post details so your feedback is constructive instead of coming across as whinging.

Believe me both myself and Unstable are open to feedback but when your beef is either cos he badmouthed your mate, or you just don't like his style or voice then you can get lost - if however you have some constructive tips to improve we can take them on board.

To be be fair, the stream could be improved a bit. Unstable seems to have a lot of technical issues with getting the stream running smoothly. There are also some casting problems; for example, he really needs to stop breaking off during the action to have a rant at something someone has posted in his chat stream.
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-09 12:29:08
October 09 2010 12:27 GMT
#43
On October 09 2010 21:01 Sfydjklm wrote:
whats going on with the last 2 matches?

postponed to tomorrow.

On October 09 2010 21:04 Jumbled wrote:
Show nested quote +

Read again - I was implying you need to post details so your feedback is constructive instead of coming across as whinging.

Believe me both myself and Unstable are open to feedback but when your beef is either cos he badmouthed your mate, or you just don't like his style or voice then you can get lost - if however you have some constructive tips to improve we can take them on board.

To be be fair, the stream could be improved a bit. Unstable seems to have a lot of technical issues with getting the stream running smoothly. There are also some casting problems; for example, he really needs to stop breaking off during the action to have a rant at something someone has posted in his chat stream.

Take note, jabK - this is somewhat constructive.
Gaming videos for fun ~ http://www.youtube.com/user/WijLopenLos
Jumbled
Profile Joined September 2010
1543 Posts
October 09 2010 13:11 GMT
#44
To counterbalance what seemed like a purely negative post, I should also add that it's great to have competitions like PSI Storm for Oz, and that people are willing to dedicate their time to cast them. The things I mentioned previously were just a couple of issues I did notice when watching.
wintergt
Profile Joined February 2010
Belgium1335 Posts
October 09 2010 13:14 GMT
#45
Casting is decent, besides the technical difficulties such as the replay rewinding or the stream dying. Nice prizepool on this tourney and looking at the brackets we have in the upper semi a ZvT and lower semi a PvZ, which are nice match-ups, including for the winners bracket final. So looks like a nice spread of races which is always good.
here i am
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
October 09 2010 13:17 GMT
#46
Good to see non-SEA/Oceania spectators enjoying the event and understanding the casting!
Gaming videos for fun ~ http://www.youtube.com/user/WijLopenLos
wintergt
Profile Joined February 2010
Belgium1335 Posts
October 09 2010 13:26 GMT
#47
On October 09 2010 22:17 deL wrote:
Good to see non-SEA/Oceania spectators enjoying the event and understanding the casting!

lol
here i am
7th-Real
Profile Joined December 2008
Australia93 Posts
October 09 2010 13:28 GMT
#48
Been a great competition so far, Del and the other guys from CG have really done well.

Also the 4 qualifiers into finals is a really nice format, single or even double elim tourneys can be so unfair sometimes.

As a side note.. I notice this from myself too when I've listened to my casts but does anybody else just hate the australian voice when casting starcraft?

Paz is fine because he almost sounds american() but god the australian accent is annoying.
Fat people should have to buy two tickets.
Jumbled
Profile Joined September 2010
1543 Posts
October 09 2010 13:38 GMT
#49
In general I find the American accent more annoying on casts. It really depends on how broad either accent is though. A broad American accent sounds awful, but a broad Australian accent sounds pretty bad for casting too. Other accents, such as singlish or any European accent, are usually fine as long as I can understand the caster.
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
October 09 2010 13:43 GMT
#50
I find most accents pretty good except some American and some stronger European ones. Singlish makes you have to concentrate now and then too. I don't mind Aussie accent for casting I guess because I am used to Aus commentary from watching a lot of sport here.
Gaming videos for fun ~ http://www.youtube.com/user/WijLopenLos
BEARDiaguz
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia2362 Posts
October 09 2010 14:02 GMT
#51
The accent is fucked when it comes from the mouth of a stupid person. Otherwise it's fine.

Unfortunately, I kinda gotta jump on the 'i don't like the unstable stream' wagon because whilst it's technically fine, it's the fact that he's not very smart at the game. It's like Husky; enthusiasm but without the really good analysis. I usually end up rage-muting it if I'm watching it.

If only we had our own Day[9]. I suppose we'd have to call him G'Day[9].

Anyway, as for my tournament experience it's been going good so far. Got some really good matchups (ie, have not run into Glade yet, woohoo!) and I must endorse the size of the prize pool. More tournieslike this and we'll have an SEA scene on our hand for sures.
ProgamerAustralian alcohol user follow @iaguzSC2
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
October 09 2010 14:04 GMT
#52
I never understood why it's top players who complain about not enough depth in the cast - you can tell what's going on yourself better than 99% of casters usually so I find myself preferring entertainment over analysis these days. I don't need the exact FOTM build order regurgitated to me when I see it on the screen.

Tastosis ftw.
Gaming videos for fun ~ http://www.youtube.com/user/WijLopenLos
Niick
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia426 Posts
October 09 2010 14:11 GMT
#53
Unstablaz?
Pazable?
You'll have to speak up, I'm wearing a towel.
BEARDiaguz
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia2362 Posts
October 09 2010 14:14 GMT
#54
Because top players are dicks. Seriously. I met Glade at that sydney lan, God what a motherfucker. He tried to hide it well with smiles, jokes and friendly post-game handshakes, but the guy was an arsewipe through and through, I swear.
ProgamerAustralian alcohol user follow @iaguzSC2
Paz
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia147 Posts
October 09 2010 14:36 GMT
#55
Yeah cos Glade hasn't made like tons and tons of friends and a reputation as one of the nicest guys in the scene over the last 7 years or anything.

Thanks for making it clear who the dick is, iaguz.
HaNdFisH
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia119 Posts
October 09 2010 14:39 GMT
#56
I have no idea what you are talking about iaguz. Some top players aren't the most agreeable people I agree. Glade and Leg however were the nicest guys when I met up with them for a few days.
frequency
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia1901 Posts
October 09 2010 14:39 GMT
#57
On October 09 2010 23:14 iaguz wrote:
Because top players are dicks. Seriously. I met Glade at that sydney lan, God what a motherfucker. He tried to hide it well with smiles, jokes and friendly post-game handshakes, but the guy was an arsewipe through and through, I swear.


Kidding right?
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DCKitty
Profile Joined September 2010
United States28 Posts
October 09 2010 14:41 GMT
#58
Oh hey, we were told to post here in this thread! I only saw the last part, but I liked it, so I will watch more often!

How can you tell if an elephant's been in your refrigerator?

There are footprints in the butter.
I want a baneling plushie, they're so darn cute :3 - MaNa fangirl
7th-Real
Profile Joined December 2008
Australia93 Posts
October 09 2010 14:44 GMT
#59
I'm pretty sure iaguz was kidding about the glade stuff guys, calm down

Also my post was not a criticism of the stream, I am just a self hating aussie.
Fat people should have to buy two tickets.
pevergreen
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia252 Posts
October 09 2010 14:46 GMT
#60
Unstable is fun to watch because of the people you'll see in the chat. I wouldn't watch his vods, because its just not as fun. Day9 and others I'm fine with on vods, but Unstable is just a normal guy, and the chat lets me talk to players far above me in skill that I wouldn't normally ever have contact with.

I just think its cool for me to be able to say something about the game and have the guy that played it or the guy casting it or a top player respond to me.
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
October 09 2010 14:55 GMT
#61
I thought the streams were ok, but they needed more co-ordination to cover more matches so that we could see more different games
Unstable87
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia226 Posts
October 09 2010 15:38 GMT
#62

Believe me both myself and Unstable are open to feedback but when your beef is either cos he badmouthed your mate, or you just don't like his style or voice then you can get lost - if however you have some constructive tips to improve we can take them on board.

Pretty much what del said

So I have no idea why there is so much hate instantly towards me, if someone can enlighten me please do so! All I have done is try to fill the void for SEA event casts out of my own time and not asking for anything, i really dont understand why for nothing other than trying to help out the community i get flamed and abused? I will be the first to accept I am not perfect but for anyone who has been following me for a while I ask consistently after every cast for feedback on how to make my cast better. And I firmly believe that it has been getting a lot better since I started.

So to that note let me respond to some of the posts.

To be be fair, the stream could be improved a bit. Unstable seems to have a lot of technical issues with getting the stream running smoothly. There are also some casting problems; for example, he really needs to stop breaking off during the action to have a rant at something someone has posted in his chat stream.


Trying to not sound like an excuse, the stream was live for about 9 hours straight and from what i saw there was 2 glitches technically, A) when my PC overheated and B) I hit the B key in game when i was trying to hit V

I have taken steps to stop these from happening again I have ordered a better airflow system for my PC, and I will just have to be more careful with my key placement's, I;m sure everyone has had a typo or hit the wrong key bind before while playing.

Also I am curious as to your dislike of the community interaction, most of the feedback I've had has been positive and people wanting more of it more often, can you elaborate? was the timing off eg missed something in game or do you just not prefer it?

On October 09 2010 16:34 jabK wrote:
not talking trash, he is so unbearable to listen to, its like he hardly knows the game and laughs at the dumbest shit.. just posting facts on how to improve the quality of viewing


Comments like this make no sense to me, not only is it completely not constructive at all you seem to just want to bitch about something you have no control over, If i "hardly know the game" please feel free to give me a list of examples since it must happen so often in my cast that you say this with such malice. and laughing at dumb shit? I'm sure a lot of people don't like your sense of humor too its not something i can change so to that i say if you don't like it don't listen.

On October 09 2010 23:55 Dfgj wrote:
I thought the streams were ok, but they needed more co-ordination to cover more matches so that we could see more different games


I certainly agree, however we didn't really have a choice but to go with what we had, we tried to keep the replays of the games as live as possible, also juggling who to watch with other casting teams didn't help, really its just something experience will help with over time.

On October 09 2010 23:02 iaguz wrote:
The accent is fucked when it comes from the mouth of a stupid person. Otherwise it's fine.

Unfortunately, I kinda gotta jump on the 'i don't like the unstable stream' wagon because whilst it's technically fine, it's the fact that he's not very smart at the game. It's like Husky; enthusiasm but without the really good analysis. I usually end up rage-muting it if I'm watching it.

If only we had our own Day[9]. I suppose we'd have to call him G'Day[9].

Anyway, as for my tournament experience it's been going good so far. Got some really good matchups (ie, have not run into Glade yet, woohoo!) and I must endorse the size of the prize pool. More tournieslike this and we'll have an SEA scene on our hand for sures.




I really don't know where to start with this one, my first reaction is to tell you to go screw yourself because there is nothing in your post but flaming/abuse especially when I have done nothing to you whatsoever.

"when it comes from the mouth of a stupid person"
This comment is kinda funny, since i have had feedback from countless top players and none have told me this before, and believe me they have been extremely upfront with their opinion.

All I sense from you is negativity when you say this "More tournieslike this and we'll have an SEA scene on our hand for sures"

You do realise that the only way this is going to happen is if the scene GROWS right? one of the best ways to do that is to cast the tournaments, you can have issues with my stream all you want but you would be hard pressed to find a stream at the video quality/game knowledge/commitment and availability as mine. So instead of being a rude abusive tool, how about actually work with others in the community who want it to be a lot instead of abusing people try working WITH people like me and Del to make the entire experience better for everyone. Instead of what your doing now which is realistically being completely useless in the scheme of things.

On October 09 2010 23:14 iaguz wrote:
Because top players are dicks. Seriously. I met Glade at that sydney lan, God what a motherfucker. He tried to hide it well with smiles, jokes and friendly post-game handshakes, but the guy was an arsewipe through and through, I swear.


Glade has been one of the nicest gamers i have ever met and pretty sure everyone else agree's so all you have done here is make yourself look like a tool.

With all that being said If you really do find something can be improved with my stream feel free to PM me here or leave a message ingame/stream chat and i will of course do everything i can to make the stream a better experience for everyone



FXOUnstable
BEARDiaguz
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia2362 Posts
October 09 2010 16:04 GMT
#63
Yes, I am being silly. Jeez. Calm down. Glade's alright by me. How many top players are dicks anyway? Like, other then idra. Pretend idra doesn't exist when you read that past sentence

When I say I don't like the stream and give reasons, well, there you go! Del replied to one other hater that that person did not give proper reasons, so I gave some. Sorry you didn't like them.

And I believe you misunderstood what I meant with this line: "More tournieslike this and we'll have an SEA scene on our hand for sures." This a positive line! More moneys: more enthused players: some real awesome shit. I'm not saying that we shouldn't have streamers, or that you should stop streaming or something silly like that. I'm just giving my reason why I don't watch your stream, and I tried to make it constructive (well, ok, perhaps saying "be Day9" is not very constructive, seeing as 99.9999999% of earths population is not Sean "day9" plott, but you get what I mean) other then just 'man that unstable. What a horrid guy. Burn his stream!'

My point is just that whilst your casting technique is fine enough (decent obsing, not much downtime, proper enthusiasm etc) it's just that your game knowledge lacks, so I don't watch your stream. That's it. If you want, I can hop on for some of the Terran games (none of the non-terran matchups, I know dick-all about those and will just be deadweight) and try and provide a decent level TvX opinion, show you what I mean.
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Jumbled
Profile Joined September 2010
1543 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-09 16:28:55
October 09 2010 16:24 GMT
#64
Trying to not sound like an excuse, the stream was live for about 9 hours straight and from what i saw there was 2 glitches technically, A) when my PC overheated and B) I hit the B key in game when i was trying to hit V

I have taken steps to stop these from happening again I have ordered a better airflow system for my PC, and I will just have to be more careful with my key placement's, I;m sure everyone has had a typo or hit the wrong key bind before while playing.

Also I am curious as to your dislike of the community interaction, most of the feedback I've had has been positive and people wanting more of it more often, can you elaborate? was the timing off eg missed something in game or do you just not prefer it?

That's a fair response. I was only able to catch some of today's cast due to limited time, and so my comments were based partly on earlier casts such as the qualifiers and may no longer be as applicable.

As for the community interaction, I guess it can be a matter of personal preference. I think if something comes up in the stream that reminds you of a fact or answer worth mentioning then it's fine to announce it, but if it turns into a conversation I find it can be irritating. My recommendation would be that if someone say asks a pertinent question or something in the stream, pick a lull in the game and address it with "we have some questions about.." or "ZergPlayerBob asks..", and give the question and answer, so that people not following the chat won't get confused, and it doesn't turn into an extended discussion.

However, that's just my preference. If the audience are happy with the interaction certainly don't let me discourage you. As I pointed out in my second post, I'm overall very impressed with the effort you put into the casting.

Edit: Oh and iaguz, you couldn't have made it any clearer that you were joking. I'm amazed that so many people didn't pick up on it, but don't let it worry you too much - some people just don't get these things.
Unstable87
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia226 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-09 17:03:17
October 09 2010 16:58 GMT
#65
On October 10 2010 01:04 iaguz wrote:
My point is just that whilst your casting technique is fine enough (decent obsing, not much downtime, proper enthusiasm etc) it's just that your game knowledge lacks, so I don't watch your stream. That's it. If you want, I can hop on for some of the Terran games (none of the non-terran matchups, I know dick-all about those and will just be deadweight) and try and provide a decent level TvX opinion, show you what I mean.


This feedback is a completely different tone to "when it comes from the mouth of a stupid person"

This is the feedback that is really needed to progress, and thank you for providing it. I am pretty puzzled as to how you mean my game knowledge is lacking because you are the first person to bring it up out of all the feedback i have had, it may be that we have conflicting styles in PvT my pvt is at about 1300-1400 sea server rating (insert flame)? but i agree i am learning the hard way with TvT and TvZ which is why i consistently drag people like glade/paz/pinder/ etc into stream with me any chance i get. since i did play P exclusively until i started casting. I am also playing as much as i can when i have time offracing to get a better feel for everything. It could also be as del said earlier my game knowledge is good just not as high as yours? i don't know but i do plan on doing everything i can to make it better.


As for the community interaction, I guess it can be a matter of personal preference. I think if something comes up in the stream that reminds you of a fact or answer worth mentioning then it's fine to announce it, but if it turns into a conversation I find it can be irritating. My recommendation would be that if someone say asks a pertinent question or something in the stream, pick a lull in the game and address it with "we have some questions about.." or "ZergPlayerBob asks..", and give the question and answer, so that people not following the chat won't get confused, and it doesn't turn into an extended discussion.


I like this idea of making it more clear for those who aren't following the chat ill give it a go tomorrow, see how things turn out.


Edit: Oh and iaguz, you couldn't have made it any clearer that you were joking. I'm amazed that so many people didn't pick up on it, but don't let it worry you too much - some people just don't get these things.

Sarcasm and forums dont mix yo! >.<

but on a more serious note i deal heavily with body language customer service stuff, the things iaguz mentioned are real things that can set people off, once u can read body language and tone etc u can pick up soo much info from people that they don't talk about so it did seem legit.
FXOUnstable
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
October 09 2010 17:03 GMT
#66
I personally enjoy the casting for just being relaxed, especially with alot of random guests on who just make it a better atmosphere. It just is a communal stream, alot of the things said can be inside jokes or only some people may understand. Things like Pinder doing fpvod commentary during KOTH was great and was just done freely.

There are improvements casting wise ofcourse, but some people just enjoy it for what it is.
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Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
October 09 2010 17:28 GMT
#67
to get back to the earlier discussion i really hate it when people pressure casters into having strategical insight. I think a lot of up and coming commentators perform worse then they could if they just aimed for entertainment because of that pressure.
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FatHuntresS
Profile Joined August 2010
Malaysia78 Posts
October 09 2010 21:42 GMT
#68
lazy to read too long. dont know what you guys are smoking but i think unstables cast is pretty enjoyable and entertaining .
Timing is perhaps the most important element.
HiaTuS.
Profile Joined June 2003
Australia235 Posts
October 10 2010 00:02 GMT
#69
Lol, if anyones commentary was to bag out it was on the channel where the guy and asian chick (think name was kelly) were casting. They were bagging the shit out of aDRo and RedArchons game and i quote "Yeah this is the perfect game to display what not to do" and "yeh I donno RedArchon but this is really low tier play". Im sure they could do better ay?
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pevergreen
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia252 Posts
October 10 2010 01:36 GMT
#70
I can't comment on Kelly's casting, but from the small amount I've heard, I couldn't stand it. Mostly because of her voice.
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
October 10 2010 03:13 GMT
#71
Trash talking in forums won't improve anything and if you can't cast yourself (and I have heard some commentary of those complaining and really it was nothing at all to write home about) then these guys are all we have so you should focus on concise, important tips and feedback that will improve the cast in a way that will appeal of a MAJORITY of the viewers (not everyone can be pleased).
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carebear91
Profile Joined February 2010
Singapore236 Posts
October 10 2010 04:11 GMT
#72
i think unstable's cast is actually pretty enjoyable. it can actually be a lot better if you could sync the microphone volumes so that they could be even. because it's quite annoying to having to keep adjusting the volume as different casters speak due to the difference in volume changes.
pevergreen
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia252 Posts
October 10 2010 04:25 GMT
#73
When its like that carebear, just type in the chat who's mic is low.

Theres quite a few co-casters, and right now Unstable and Paz are good equal volumes, but last night during Psi Storm, I think you were right, someone was very quiet.
Unstable87
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia226 Posts
October 10 2010 04:41 GMT
#74
If that ever happens guys let me know so i can adjust the volume for you! cant fix what i dont kno is broke!
FXOUnstable
pevergreen
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia252 Posts
October 10 2010 04:43 GMT
#75
On October 10 2010 13:41 Unstable87 wrote:
If that ever happens guys let me know so i can adjust the volume for you! cant fix what i dont kno is broke!

Your spelling breaks sometimes.

Sorry. : /
Lexo_nz1
Profile Joined October 2010
4 Posts
October 10 2010 06:07 GMT
#76
Are Kowi and Glade playing now?
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
October 10 2010 06:08 GMT
#77
GOING LIVE!

http://www.teamliquid.net/video/userstream.php?user=Unstable87

http://www.cybergamer.com.au/matchtv/ look through the various channels.
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Lexo_nz1
Profile Joined October 2010
4 Posts
October 10 2010 06:12 GMT
#78
Thanks. I can't get any of the channels at the second link to play anything other than adds. But the first one works nicely! Mind you it looks like T v T? Is it Kowi vs Glade?
Lexo_nz1
Profile Joined October 2010
4 Posts
October 10 2010 06:12 GMT
#79
Ah, sounds like it is not :D
Lexo_nz1
Profile Joined October 2010
4 Posts
October 10 2010 06:14 GMT
#80
deL do you know if Kowi and Glade are playing right now too?
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
October 10 2010 06:14 GMT
#81
Lexo yes they are playing today but they are not up on stream jsut yet.
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deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
October 10 2010 07:31 GMT
#82
I'd be interested to hear people's thoughts on the Unstable/Tobiwankenobi casting duo?
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FPSKeNz
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
91 Posts
October 10 2010 07:40 GMT
#83
Toby is an awesome caster. Nuff' said. (:
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
October 10 2010 07:45 GMT
#84
On October 10 2010 16:31 deL wrote:
I'd be interested to hear people's thoughts on the Unstable/Tobiwankenobi casting duo?

Seems pretty alright, I'm enjoying it.
Ftrunkz
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Australia2474 Posts
October 10 2010 08:02 GMT
#85
Tbh of all the SEA casting i don't know anyone who does it better than unstable... Yeah he doesn't have 2k diamond level knowledge, but I don't think you're going to find a player with better knowledge (other than maybe paz) and the same... 'charisma' as unstable that isn't playing in the fucking matches people want casted...

That, and i doubt you realize how much effort he's putting into all this for very little gain for himself other than helping the community, without unstable casting all the recent SEA events, you'd would have a lot less events to complain about the casting, because there wouldn't be any streams for 75% of the stuff he does it for, and you'd have a lot more to complain about on stuff like psistorm, because we'd be back to people with much less idea casting the games where half the viewers, rather than maybe 2-5%, have more knowledge than the caster and realize when he's calling it wrong.
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BEARDiaguz
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia2362 Posts
October 10 2010 08:04 GMT
#86
150 bucks, woo.

Glade hwaiting I suppose.

(tempted to create one of those 'cheerful posters' of a sparkly Moonwell from WC3 that has a bunch of zerglings crawling out of it. Or perhaps a hydralisk with one of those hats with the corks dangling from it. And a cigar.)
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TyrantPotato
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1541 Posts
October 10 2010 08:11 GMT
#87
keep the stream running strong unstable and just ignore the flame against ya.

if they have a problem with how us aussies do things we'll just challange them to a drinking contest
Forever ZeNEX.
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
October 10 2010 08:12 GMT
#88
On October 10 2010 17:04 iaguz wrote:
150 bucks, woo.

Glade hwaiting I suppose.

(tempted to create one of those 'cheerful posters' of a sparkly Moonwell from WC3 that has a bunch of zerglings crawling out of it. Or perhaps a hydralisk with one of those hats with the corks dangling from it. And a cigar.)

Yah is there like an infested moonwell from WC3?
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tertle
Profile Joined February 2010
Australia328 Posts
October 10 2010 08:40 GMT
#89
That was a pretty entertaining last game
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
October 10 2010 08:55 GMT
#90
Why didn't you participate tertle?
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tertle
Profile Joined February 2010
Australia328 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-10 09:09:09
October 10 2010 09:08 GMT
#91
I haven't really played 1v1 since beta. Final year uni project is due on wednesday, presentation next tuesday, after that it's game on!
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
October 10 2010 09:20 GMT
#92
Fair enough my thesis is in 2 weeks too! GL with yours!
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Rake
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia52 Posts
October 10 2010 09:23 GMT
#93
As far as casters are concerned my preference is unstable however I prefer when he has co-caster with really good game knowledge and is mainly used to provide info and will in the gap while letting unstable cover the action as apposed to the setup with tobi where unstable plays more of the information role. That's just my person preference tobi + unstable is still entertaining just some desync issues
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
October 10 2010 09:26 GMT
#94
Unstable is kind of in the middle ground, tobi is better at calling action but lacks depth in game knowledge, paz, etc. are great at the game itself but unstable probably pips them for action calling and excitement levels so he's the middle ground!
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frequency
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia1901 Posts
October 10 2010 09:28 GMT
#95
Why isn't Paz casting? I like Tobi as a person, but I've always disliked his casting even since his earliest days in DotA. Paz has casted this event for so long, it's grossly unfair that he isn't casting the finals as well.

I'm very disappointed with whoever made that decision.
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deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-10 09:36:59
October 10 2010 09:33 GMT
#96
Round 1 map vetoes:

OxygeN: Blistering Sands
GLaDe: Lost Temple

Round 2 map vetoes:

OxygeN: Xel'Naga Caverns
GLaDe: Delta Quadrant

Round 3 map vetoes:

OxygeN: Metalopolis
GLaDe: Steppes of War

Map order for finals:

Scrap Station
Round 3 vetoe of winner
Round 3 vetoe of loser
Round 2 vetoe of winner
Round 2 vetoe of loser
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Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
October 10 2010 09:58 GMT
#97
Were you high when you did that deL?
sAviOr...
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-10 10:22:15
October 10 2010 10:00 GMT
#98
Shut up mate I made it up just then cos I forgot how conventional vetoe works.
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Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
October 10 2010 10:03 GMT
#99
On October 10 2010 19:00 deL wrote:
Shut up mate I made it up just then cos I forgot how conventional vetoe works.


Fixed.

Fair enough, let's see how this works out. Good luck to GLaDe and OxygeN!
sAviOr...
SayfT
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia298 Posts
October 10 2010 11:14 GMT
#100
Unstable and Tobiwan did a very good job at casting, good chemistry, the actions were commentated very well too :D always look forward to watch unstable's casts :D
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RefleX746
Profile Joined August 2010
New Zealand96 Posts
October 10 2010 11:42 GMT
#101
Thanks to deL / CGAU for organizing this awesome tournament.
Congratulations to who won this tournament your now a millioner!

Unstable ur awesome keep up the casts and everything you do for the community.

Ild like to see more of Tobiwan also I really enjoyed the intensity he brought to the casts and his rapid commentary during battles.

deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
October 10 2010 11:44 GMT
#102
Yeah he might not have over 30-40 APM in game but boy can he micro his commentary for those battles O_O I couldn't keep up with his shoutcasting let alone what was happening on screen.
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Fenneth
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Australia354 Posts
October 10 2010 14:30 GMT
#103
Guess my drastic fail in this thing is mitigated a little by the fact I lost to some pretty high finishers

Thanks del and everyone else involved, was a well run tournament Congrats to the winners.
LastDance
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
New Zealand510 Posts
October 10 2010 21:10 GMT
#104
Any chance we can get a hold of the replays?
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
October 10 2010 21:18 GMT
#105
Yep I'll upload reps once i get the chance.
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deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-14 23:40:14
October 14 2010 23:40 GMT
#106
One final bump to let you guys know I wrote a recap with results, replays, VODs etc. for the finals:

http://www.cybergamer.com.au/forums/thread/178128/WD-Psi-Storm-Finals-Recap/

Was going to repost on TL but then realised there's no colours and large text here it'd be ugly ;(
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