The staff from vT was amazing and professional. a bunch of caster to cast the whole thing, admins here and there. It was a blast. I wish a lot of tournaments could copy their line of work so there would be a lot more successful tournaments out there.

PS: There is no sarcasm in this post.

HeaveNTiMe

United States104 Posts

October 04 2010 05:41 GMT

#64

On October 04 2010 13:37 desrow wrote:
The staff from vT was amazing and professional. a bunch of caster to cast the whole thing, admins here and there. It was a blast. I wish a lot of tournaments could copy their line of work so there would be a lot more successful tournaments out there.

your sarcasm was amazing

but ya I'm still bummed about some of the stuff they did hope they get better in the end.

Foxwolf

Brazil157 Posts

October 04 2010 06:01 GMT

#65

I just think that if you want to get viewers do the best casting job of the torney. Kicking a guy that had 1000 viewers so you can get from 250 to 500 is not the smartest thing to do - lost 750 viewers. Just get a better stream then his. So naturally people will watch you, but forcing people to watch your stream - especially the way you guys did, after gretorp cast almost the whole torney - really isn't good for your image.

Just my opinion anyway. Gretorp was doing a GREAT cast and you guys changed for a OK cast.

Geval

788 Posts

October 04 2010 08:22 GMT

#66

I was one of the people to "had to" switch the streams in order to watch the final. Just to let you know, the MAIN reason why Gretorp had 1k viewers and you dont, is not because he is more popular.

Gretorp has much better knowledge on the game than you. I dont think Gretorp would ever say something like "I dont know why Axslav is making phoenixes. I think he wants to harass Socke workers line..." (any Plat+ protoss would know that phoenix > collo)

Anyway, good tournament beside the Gretorp thing. Next time you want to up your stream viewers, just invite the most popular caster to co-cast with you on your stream. And tell them before hand.

Comrade

Sweden102 Posts

October 04 2010 13:34 GMT

#67

That was the shittiest bad manners I have ever seen when it comes to how to handle a tournament. Gretorp was plugging vt in his casts and did way superior casts than attero. Attero sat and plugged himself every 3 minutes, saying how much he is going to stream and then he says something along the lines: Sry about gretorp, I know a lot of you are hating right now but old school sc2 players knows me while new players might not so.

What does that have to do with anything? No I played the whole beta and I don't know you, if i did I wouldn't watch that garbage. Completly lacking the knowledge and the depth that gretorp got. So gretorp is helping you out and then you kick him from casting the finals. Never watching vt ever again.

Floophead_III

United States1832 Posts

October 04 2010 14:11 GMT

#68

I'm pretty sure the plan was always to have Attero on the finals and not Gretorp. Gretorp is a freaking awesome guy and there is no way anyone would directly disrespect him. Whether he is a superior caster to Attero is not the point of discussion. I believe we didn't want too many casters in the finals to avoid lag and to not split viewership up.

I'm sorry if any of you guys are disappointed/offended and I'm sure vT will take it into consideration when setting up casting for the next tournament.

@Geval: I do think having a co-cast with Gretorp would've been a good idea. It was a decision made by others so I cannot say anything more about it than I already have, and that's mostly educated speculation.

Anyways, it was a fantastic tournament and I'm glad so many people did enjoy it.

desRow

Canada2654 Posts

October 04 2010 16:34 GMT

#69

On October 04 2010 14:41 HeaveNTiMe wrote:

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your sarcasm was amazing

but ya I'm still bummed about some of the stuff they did hope they get better in the end.

I'm sorry you took it that way, There was no sarcasm intended in my post. The issue with gretorp is none of my business but the tournament was awesome.

Hobot

Canada17 Posts

October 04 2010 19:10 GMT

#70

On October 04 2010 23:11 Floophead_III wrote:
I'm pretty sure the plan was always to have Attero on the finals and not Gretorp. Gretorp is a freaking awesome guy and there is no way anyone would directly disrespect him.

Then why didn't anybody tell Gretorp (or the viewers) beforehand? And why was it handled in such a ridiculously rude and curt fashion?

This should have been posted before inviting Gretorp to cast and it should have been clearly outlined in the OP.

I think VT clearly screwed up here, and if it wants to put things right it should acknowledge this and apologize to Gretorp. Additionally, Attero should either be scrapped as a caster, paired with a co-caster, or find someway to dramatically improve. The finals were painful to listen to and I left half way through after he paused for a phone call.

slained

Canada966 Posts

October 04 2010 19:15 GMT

#71

Yea definitely gretorp is a good player and knows his stuff. Attero is pretty good too; although it is the vt tournament. Perhaps they should have had Gretorp at least in the cast with them. Even as a co-commentator. It was a pleasure to be casted by him in these games, and really did understand a lot about the matchups.

Attero

Canada271 Posts

October 04 2010 22:54 GMT

#72

Hello everyone. Although all is well with Gretorp and he had no problem with what happened, there is no mistake that we acknowledge the huge, disgusting, and horrible miscommunication that happened between Gretorp and the tournament semi-finals and finals. Gretorp was incredible in every way, and I sincerely apologize for the way the tournament ended. It is our duty to make sure something like this does not happen again. And we can assure you that it will not. vT Gaming and myself want to thank Gretorp and all of you for being as honest as you can be and take all your comments into consideration. I hope you all can understand that we had no intention of cutting off Gretorp in such a manner, and will continue to do our best to contribute to the community in a positive way, trying to steer clear of such drama. Thank you all for your love and support and your comments are always appreciated.

Geval

788 Posts

October 05 2010 20:43 GMT

#73

everybody makes mistake sometime. Hope you guys will learn from it. Once again, thank you for organizing the tournament, and looking forward for Attero's cast in the future (hopefully you will improve and become as awesome as Gretorp/Day9)