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vnlegend
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1389 Posts
September 28 2010 21:45 GMT
#1661
It seems to me the rushes by Terran is easy to pull off. Sure you gotta micro, stim, etc but in general it's easy enough that every Terran in the tournament can do it. And this is why almost every Terran does it.

Meanwhile, to defend vs these attacks as Protoss, the P has to be perfect. Don't play perfectly? You're instantly dead like Iron or Nexgenius.

There is nothing P can do to turn the tide. 1 bunker with some scvs and units can hold almost anything.

With that said, I think the better players won, except for Liveforever who was still pretty good.
Marines > everything
tyrless
Profile Joined July 2010
United States485 Posts
September 28 2010 21:47 GMT
#1662
weird games from Tester, he's a better player than ITR
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
September 28 2010 22:23 GMT
#1663
On September 29 2010 06:47 tyrless wrote:
weird games from Tester, he's a better player than ITR


how do you know that Tester is the better player?
Tester himself said, that ITR is the scariest opponent for him.
So you think you know better than Tester himself who is the better gamer?
I think they are both atleast in the top 5 of SC2 players. You really cant say that one is better than the other after seen one BO3 (and also one BO5 in the KotB that was 3:2 for Tester).
Lurker87
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States172 Posts
September 28 2010 22:24 GMT
#1664
Everything I see from Cool only makes me love him more. He's definitely winning me over. I'm excited to see more from him (perhaps we'll reach a lategame next match )
lefty
Profile Joined November 2003
United States1896 Posts
September 28 2010 22:25 GMT
#1665
anyone see Rainbow's comments about Boxer's advice and his new race? lol
scottyyy
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom796 Posts
September 28 2010 22:29 GMT
#1666
On September 29 2010 07:25 lefty wrote:
anyone see Rainbow's comments about Boxer's advice and his new race? lol


No, can you link me or post what he said?
lefty
Profile Joined November 2003
United States1896 Posts
September 28 2010 22:37 GMT
#1667
He basically said he feels that terran is (currently) the best. Back when he played SC1, he used to nag and complain about how terran is overpowered. Boxer told him to then pick terran if he feels that way, now that he's Terran in SC2, he knows how Boxer feels.
snow2.0
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany2073 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-28 22:41:50
September 28 2010 22:40 GMT
#1668
On September 29 2010 07:29 scottyyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2010 07:25 lefty wrote:
anyone see Rainbow's comments about Boxer's advice and his new race? lol


No, can you link me or post what he said?

if i'm guessing right, this is what he meant: (copy&paste from eu forums)
+ Show Spoiler +
posted this in the 'toss forums, but i think it fits much better here:



interview with HopeTorture after his win over sSKS aka. Tester:



http://s.163.com/10/0928/19/6HMMGFT900314JJA.html



translation:



HopeTorture



Thoughts on beating sSKS and making the Ro4?

-The games all went according to plan. I didn't have time to prepare for game 3, so I'm glad it ended 2-0.



The opponent used Void Rays in game 1.

-The teammate I practiced with can only use Void Rays, after practicing with him, I'm immune to Void Rays.



You were always on the offensive in game 2.

-I wanted to end it 2-0. I didn't even expand, so I couldn't let my opponent have his natural, so I kept pressuring him.



Who do you want to play in the Ro4?

-I hope for a Protoss. I always discuss strategies with Ensnare, so if I play with him, there'd be no secrets. It'd be harder to prepare.



Some people hope you switch to Protoss.

-Protoss is much stronger than in BW, so I don't really care if I play Protoss. But when I first picked race I saw no one else was playing Terran, so I chose it. Now I'm familiar with Terran, so I don't want to change races. I think Terran is the strongest.



During BW I kept saying Terran was too hard, and Boxer-hyung kept joking and telling me to switch to Terran. Now I'm playing Terran in SC2, I'm finally experiencing it. Besides TvT, everything is easy.



This is your best result as a progamer.

-A lot of players with a chance to do even better didn't participate, so even if I win I don't think I'm very strong. There'll be even stronger people participating in the future, so I can't be satisfied with my current results and I'll need to work harder.



Now you're playing Bo5s.

-Bo5 emphasizes basics and mind games.



Last words?

-Thanks to all my teammates who helped me practice, I'll repay them by winning. Go Startale!



///





interview with Ensnare after beating HongUnPrime



http://s.163.com/10/0928/20/6HMOPEFP00314JJA.html



Translation:



Ensnare



You won with ease.

-True. It's because the Hellions that I made only for scouting got a lot, so I was able to win with ease.



Your opponent in the Ro4 is HopeTorture.

-The opponent is strong, but I'll prioritize enjoying the games.



The semis are Bo5, do you have any good strategies?

-I haven't thought about it yet, but Hope-hyung has very aggressive, so I think if I can defend and drag it to late game I'd be good.



You ensured 10 million won prize money.

-I don't have much to say about that. I just want to enjoy SC2, enjoy happy times.



It can be a TvT finals.

-I think Cool will win, so it won't be TvT. In Bo5, mind games are important, and Cool-hyung has the advantage of progaming experience, so he has a big advantage.



You're in the Ro4, are you satisfied?

-I'm in the upper levels of the rankings, as long as I don't lose to players who are around my level or below, I'm satisfied. It seems I can be satisfied now.



Last words?

-I defeated many Protosses to get to the Ro4, I'll treat them to meals [laugh]



Source:



http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=156658



=============



Ahrtosis claiming that in korea, TvP is considered P favored.

Hopetorture and Ensnare disagree with that statment.


I found it a fun read. He's a damned good player, but he makes it sounds like playing terran doesn't even provide reasons for him to put all his possible skill/effort in.
Lurker87
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States172 Posts
September 28 2010 22:54 GMT
#1669
Very disappointed in Tester's games. That is not the Tester I know. Being overzealous on both games lost him the match (though he was fighting any uphill battle for the 2nd half of the 2nd game).
Immersion_
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom794 Posts
September 28 2010 23:40 GMT
#1670
Meh such an anti-climax this day, just watched the vods, going through the thread alongside, bit of a spoiler to see all the ever present whiners had been banned , though thought that meant cool was gone but turns out it was tester haha. The game itself has potential to produce epic encounters but so many people fall so early, I don't know if it's mis micro (certainly was in Honguns case) or what (clearly maps also) but yeah, real let down. These early marauder pushes aren't THAT hard ( i think) to stop but you can't just throw away units out of position, pulling probe timings need to be better and forcefields need to be maximized, see so many FFs and then the zealots run up to whack the trapped units and end up dying themselves to lowground fire, I keep expecting players to show us how it's done but under the pressure I expect it's very difficult. Ensnare still in though hoping he can take it from Cool in the final, if the ZvTs are half as good as at IEM (final excepted) I cannot wait
http://www.twitch.tv/sybar1te Sybarite#2581 - add me for Heroes games. .Play Hots and Overwatch currently. Feel free to add.
Wrongspeedy
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1655 Posts
September 28 2010 23:44 GMT
#1671
I thought Tester played fine. If he didn't suicide his units they would have died 15 seconds later when the ghost got there and emp'd him in his own base, no running from that.

At the risk of being redundant, after watching those games, Terran looks strong. We will only be able to tell in time if they really are much better (like a lot seem to think). But it almost seems like both P and Z have to react to what the T player is doing, no matter what build they start the game with.

Gogo Fruitseller!
It is better to be a human dissatisfied than a pig satisfied; better to be Socrates dissatisfied than a fool satisfied.- John Stuart Mill
Jochan
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Poland1730 Posts
September 28 2010 23:47 GMT
#1672
NEXLiveForever answer in the interview was pure gold, he wanted to end the game fast because he was hungry. That cracked me up. Imagine what Maka will feel after he hears that, damn if I brought this guy sandwich I might have won.
Top pro tip for GSL #2, make sure your opponents are well fed !
"(...)all in the game, yo. All in the game"
Robonord
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States311 Posts
September 28 2010 23:49 GMT
#1673
Does anyone know what the song is that's playing during the results and when they show the next days match? Thanks in advance. ^_^
IMLosirA | ST_Bomber | SlayerS_Puzzle
kindle139
Profile Joined September 2010
United States128 Posts
September 29 2010 00:00 GMT
#1674
maybe the best of five series should start at the round of eight?
Doughboy
Profile Joined April 2010
United States721 Posts
September 29 2010 00:01 GMT
#1675
ITR Hwaiting! Cool beans.
"Don't be distracted by the what if's, should'ves, and if onlys. The one thing you choose yourself - THAT is the truth of your universe." Fav T: Sea, Leta, Really Fav P: Free, Snow Fav Z: ZerO, GGplay, Jaedong, Neo.G_Soulkey
backtoback
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada1276 Posts
September 29 2010 00:09 GMT
#1676
On September 29 2010 09:01 Doughboy wrote:
ITR Hwaiting! Cool beans.


cool beans for sure... ITR / HopeTorture lol silly names but he is no doubt in my mind the best terran in GSL by FARR


i see fruitseller vs hopetorture in the finals and if zerg wins.... my god we were all wrong the whole time
Cloak
Profile Joined October 2009
United States816 Posts
September 29 2010 00:26 GMT
#1677
On September 29 2010 07:40 snow2.0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2010 07:29 scottyyy wrote:
On September 29 2010 07:25 lefty wrote:

ITR: During BW I kept saying Terran was too hard, and Boxer-hyung kept joking and telling me to switch to Terran. Now I'm playing Terran in SC2, I'm finally experiencing it. Besides TvT, everything is easy.


ಠ_ಠ
The more you know, the less you understand.
Dionyseus
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States2068 Posts
September 29 2010 00:59 GMT
#1678
Just came home from work and started watching the quarterfinal vods without reading any spoilers.

MakaPrime vs NexLiveForever:
Good play from Maka in game 1 but he was awful the next two games. Running your army blind up a terran's ramp? And then he tries it again in game 3 but with just a few units this time but that was enough for Nex's thor to knock Maka out.

FruitDealer vs ogsInca:
FruitDeaker has 50 pound balls, 6 pooling in kulas against Inca, and it worked! Then in game 2 he went FE then transitioned to dimaga style forcing Inca to stop mining a bunch of times and then teched to roaches and inca was so frustrated he forgot to say gg when he quit, I think he realized it afterwards because he was typing something after the game.

Tester vs HopeTorture:
In game 1 I thought Tester had the better unit composition but was really in a bad position when he attacked HopeTorture's gold expo attempt. In game 2 Tester chose a really bad spot for his robotics facility that HopeTorture was able to snipe easily, that pretty much ended the game. So much emotion from HopeTorture after that win.

ogsEnsnare vs HongunPrime:
Sexy decoy with the hellions to allow his army to make it inside HongunPrime's base, and then when Hongun managed to drive out Ensnare, back comes the hellions and they killed so many probes. Sexy sexy play from Ensnare. Ensnare does the same rush in game 2 and Hongun loses almost all his probes to the first push, and that's pretty much game over against someone as good as Ensnare, and it was.

My quick thoughts about the upcoming semifinals:

FruitDealer vs NexLiveForever:

I think FruitDealer has pretty good chances of winning this match.

HopeTorture vs ogsEnsnare:

I like both but I think Ensnare is the more solid of the two.


9/5/10 P acct: NA D 10,683 651pts 69w56L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/290365/LetoAtreides T acct: NA D 16,137 553pts 70w67L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/1560008/Khrone Z: NA G 16,058 465pts 28w26L http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/1997354/Omnius
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
September 29 2010 01:22 GMT
#1679
I should point out, this isn't the first time ITR and Tester sparred off in a BoX. I was worried about him losing to ITR due to their history. On top of that, these matches really should've been Bo5 instead of 3 or brackets should've worked out differently. Tester instead NexLiveGenius in the semi's would've been an awesome bracket. Literally I don't think I can put together a better top 4 =).
koppik
Profile Joined April 2010
United States676 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-29 01:41:47
September 29 2010 01:41 GMT
#1680
On September 29 2010 10:22 KissBlade wrote:
I should point out, this isn't the first time ITR and Tester sparred off in a BoX. I was worried about him losing to ITR due to their history.
Yeah, like Cool said in his interview after beating TOP:

On September 25 2010 01:07 Milkis wrote:- Anything else you want to say?
▲ (P)RainBOw hyung supported me a lot, so I want to thank him because he was a lot of help. I hope (P)TesteR, RainBOw, and Maka all make it to the top 8. But I think TesteR is a little afraid of RainBOw hyung [laugh].

TesteR is kind of afraid of RainBOw. It kind of showed in Day[9]'s KotH, too.
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