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On September 28 2010 21:22 dolpiff wrote:
i laugh when people call PvT balanced
can't wait for removal of marauder from game
Seriously... just look at every Protoss early opening
There are 1 of 2 counters.
More marines less marauders
or
More marauders and less marines.
And I love how terran's think stim'n'scoot is micro that takes skill....
in for TvT finals because more people played Terran during Single Player
what pisses me off the most is when 'big name' casters think it's taboo to talk about balance [clearly there are issues with it] because they want to look good incase Blizzard wants to give them a job ever.
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On September 28 2010 21:26 CellTech wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 21:22 dolpiff wrote:
i laugh when people call PvT balanced
can't wait for removal of marauder from game Seriously... just look at every Protoss early opening There are 1 of 2 counters. More marines less marauders or More marauders and less marines. And I love how terran's think stim'n'scoot is micro that takes skill.... in for TvT finals because more people played Terran during Single Player
Dont really know where single player comes into play here... but I am anticipating a TvT finals but hoping for a ZvT.
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The versatility of Terran T1 is just disgusting
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On September 28 2010 21:17 kidd wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 20:58 TehRaZer wrote:If Blizz doesn't fix pvt in the next two GSLs, Huk will only be wasting his time in Korea. He may be better than Tester, but how much better? And also consider the recent gosugamers king of the hill where he won against Morrow pre-patch but got raped by Sjow post-patch. Is Sjow really that much better than Morrow? Huk better than Tester? lol Tester is still arguably the best player in the world regardless of losing to rainbow today and one match means nothing. Don't jump to conclusions.
Tester is the best Protoss in the world, but got roflstomped. Huk is the best Protoss outside of Korea, but got roflstomped. By Sjow. How conclusive do you want to get?
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On September 28 2010 21:03 mangoloid wrote:
I really enjoyed today's match-ups. I think every good SC2 player has to be able to hold off early aggression perfectly, and we saw some of those players unable to do so fumble today. I thought these games were really exciting, especially the tester vs ITR ones :D but it's disappointing to hear that so many people are just calling GSL quits because of today D:. I'm sure they'll be back on the GOM stream soon, tho ^^.
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I was here for yesterdays matches, the problem isn't the people in this thread, the problem is todays matches were utterly boring and not fun to watch.
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On September 28 2010 21:22 dolpiff wrote:
i laugh when people call PvT balanced
can't wait for removal of marauder from game
Won't happen - they might tweak it though, god I hope so.
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On September 28 2010 21:31 TheRabidDeer wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 21:26 CellTech wrote:On September 28 2010 21:22 dolpiff wrote:
i laugh when people call PvT balanced
can't wait for removal of marauder from game Seriously... just look at every Protoss early opening There are 1 of 2 counters. More marines less marauders or More marauders and less marines. And I love how terran's think stim'n'scoot is micro that takes skill.... in for TvT finals because more people played Terran during Single Player Dont really know where single player comes into play here... but I am anticipating a TvT finals but hoping for a ZvT.
He's saying that because WoL was geared for Terrans, Terrans got the good units while Zerg is stuck waiting for HoTS
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The average Terran standard is probably higher (and Terran being stronger early game than the other two races atm) than Protoss and Zerg which is why P/Z's aren't doing as well.
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On September 28 2010 20:35 Elefanto wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 20:32 Dommk wrote:
All this "Protoss > Terran lategame" talk seems bullocks to me. I've yet to see a single game where Protoss crushes Terran lategame, all the games that have gone past midgame have been down to the wire, no one side looked to have any sort of over bearing advantage, but early game however... Watch NEXGENIUS vs ENSARE. There are like 8 games, score was somewhat 7:1 for genuis, most of them went to lategame.
wasnt that maka?
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On September 28 2010 21:26 CellTech wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 21:22 dolpiff wrote:
i laugh when people call PvT balanced
can't wait for removal of marauder from game Seriously... just look at every Protoss early opening There are 1 of 2 counters. More marines less marauders or More marauders and less marines. And I love how terran's think stim'n'scoot is micro that takes skill.... in for TvT finals because more people played Terran during Single Player what pisses me off the most is when 'big name' casters think it's taboo to talk about balance [clearly there are issues with it] because they want to look good incase Blizzard wants to give them a job ever.
It's ridiculous how people can't see this. All the clues poiting to imbalance are there. In PvT which race normally goes for the gold? Which race is the one that scouts first? Which race is the one that needs to be defensive? Which race has to spread their units the most and micro for fear of being completely overrun by unavoidable spells?
On the Gsl we haven't seen many EMPs, today we seen 2 uses of them, and guess what was the outcome? Protoss army completely obliterated. And it was aggainst Tester, someone who normally has a great eye to see which army would go victorious. Just wait till more pros start using MMM + Ghost to their full power and we'll see how many complaints there will be.
I've been saying this for a long time, and i'll keep saying it. Blizzard will bang their head aggainst the wall until they adress how strong they made Terran compared to the other 2 races. Until then, keep being illuded Blizzard, if you believe the balance is good.
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On September 28 2010 21:31 TehRaZer wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2010 21:17 kidd wrote:On September 28 2010 20:58 TehRaZer wrote:If Blizz doesn't fix pvt in the next two GSLs, Huk will only be wasting his time in Korea. He may be better than Tester, but how much better? And also consider the recent gosugamers king of the hill where he won against Morrow pre-patch but got raped by Sjow post-patch. Is Sjow really that much better than Morrow? Huk better than Tester? lol Tester is still arguably the best player in the world regardless of losing to rainbow today and one match means nothing. Don't jump to conclusions. Tester is the best Protoss in the world, but got roflstomped. Huk is the best Protoss outside of Korea, but got roflstomped. By Sjow. How conclusive do you want to get?
Not sure if you even watched the games. the score may seem 1-sided but both games were very much decided by 2 small yet costly blunders.
as for Huk, have to agree with kidd, though his top of NA, still don't really belong in the same league as TESTER in my opinion
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Not sure if you even watched the games. the score may seem 1-sided but both games were very much decided by 2 small yet costly blunders.
Small, yet costly? lol. Tester never gave rainbow any reason to sweat.
as for Huk, have to agree with kidd, though his top of NA, still don't really belong in the same league as TESTER in my opinion
That's why I said this...
Huk will only be wasting his time in Korea
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If there is going to be a TvT Final, then only because of Cools "easier" bracket.
Im pretty confident both of the other Terrans that face each other tomorrow (Ensnare and ITR) would own Cool hard.
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On September 28 2010 21:57 Viruuus wrote:
If there is going to be a TvT Final, then only because of Cools "easier" bracket.
Im pretty confident both of the other Terrans that face each other tomorrow (Ensnare and ITR) would own Cool hard.
Which sucks since Cool is, you know, better at the game.
BTW Cools bracket was much harder than Ensnare's and Liveforever's.
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On September 28 2010 22:03 antifascist wrote:
WOW lots of crying on the thread. The truth is tester didnt play well and made mistakes. thats why he lost not because of game imbalance. I cant believe the protoss are so fast to cry imba when they had such an advantage in PvT in BW.
hello out there, terran just got nerfed a week ago. remember on the korean server the claim is that protoss is overpowered. the game is balanced, lets leave all the crying for another time. The best players won, not because of imbalance but because they outplayed their opponent. tester was forced into some mistakes.
If huk wants to go to korea, he has just as good a chance to win as any other player and there is no reason why he shouldnt.
I cant believe you people are crying about PvT with how strong psi storm is. amazing
good T player never let P the opportunity to tech to storm
it simply takes just too long, its only viable as a tech swap IF you manage to survive that long
compare it to the ridiculous short tech path to thors
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On September 28 2010 18:50 Tommylew wrote:My Predictins LiveForever (T) 0:2 Maka (T) Cool (Z) 2-1 Inca (P) Tester (P) 2-1 Rainbow (T) Ensnare (T) 2-1 HongUn (P) Hoping Cool so a Zerg goes trhough and at least oen of the Protoss but I would take all 3 
LiveForever 2:1 Maka
Cool 2:0 InCa
Tester 0:2 Rainbow
Ensnare 2:0 HongUn
OMG I was well out lol. Not happy that the is 3 terrans in the semi and no protoss!!!.....
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Pretty effing epic lineup for the ro4! So stoked
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On September 28 2010 22:03 antifascist wrote:
WOW lots of crying on the thread. The truth is tester didnt play well and made mistakes. thats why he lost not because of game imbalance. I cant believe the protoss are so fast to cry imba when they had such an advantage in PvT in BW.
hello out there, terran just got nerfed a week ago. remember on the korean server the claim is that protoss is overpowered. the game is balanced, lets leave all the crying for another time. The best players won, not because of imbalance but because they outplayed their opponent. tester was forced into some mistakes.
If huk wants to go to korea, he has just as good a chance to win as any other player and there is no reason why he shouldnt.
I cant believe you people are crying about PvT with how strong psi storm is. amazing
to get psi storm:
1. gateway
2. cycore
3. twilight
4. council
5. research storm
(6. research amulet)
to get emp:
1. rax
2. ghost academy, simultaneously get tech lab
(3. research moebius)
do you even know how the timings work?
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[QUOTE]On September 28 2010 21:54 TehRaZer wrote:
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Not sure if you even watched the games. the score may seem 1-sided but both games were very much decided by 2 small yet costly blunders.[/QUOTE]
Small, yet costly? lol. Tester never gave rainbow any reason to sweat.
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game1 - tester wins first battle at natural, forced rainbow to retreat. tester pushes out with protoss ball but runs into rainbow's concave formation of units which gets a nice surround on it. with concussive shell, one positioning mistake by protoss and its gg, you simply cannot fall back like terran can. had he simply waited for more collosy while saturating that 3rd expo, it easily could have been another story.
game2 - robo positioning costed him the game. when he lost that, from the spectators point of view, it wasn't as much of a big deal but the psychological notion for him was definately that he was far behind after losing natural+ the only useful tech building to deal with marauders.
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