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[GSL] Open S2 Announced

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BFCrimson
Profile Joined August 2010
United States176 Posts
September 10 2010 01:56 GMT
#1
Thank you for your great support and interest.

TG-Intel STARCRAFT II Season 1 is currently ongoing now.

We are so pleased you are enjoying our TG-Intel STARCRAFT II Season 1 and hope to see you again in the next season.

Now, we are proudly announcing the registraion for preliminaries of TG-Intel STARCRAFT II Season 2 is going to be opened in next week(September 25~October 3)

We know a lot of players and fans want to be part of this event, and as you know, you can apply for the preliminaries.

All of you are welcomed to the next season!!

We will notice you the detail schedule and information as soon as it is ready.

Thank you.


Registration : September 25, 2010 ~ October 3, 2010

Preliminary : October 9~10, 2010

TG-Intel STARCRAFT II Open Season 2 : October 18,2010 ~ November 13, 2010


source: http://www.gomtv.net/news/185/0
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Tabbris
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Bangladesh2839 Posts
September 10 2010 01:57 GMT
#2
Wow the GSL must of been a decent success
Cranberries
Profile Joined July 2010
Wales567 Posts
September 10 2010 01:58 GMT
#3
This is awesome news. Well in advance so European/NA pros can see how well TLO/IdrA do to guage how well they, realistically, think they can do. I'd love to see Whitera, Dimaga, Demuslim, Tarson, Morrow etc enter. Although it is probably difficult.
jdwashere
Profile Joined September 2010
United States62 Posts
September 10 2010 01:59 GMT
#4
On September 10 2010 10:57 Tabbris wrote:
Wow the GSL must of been a decent success


Well there's already 1 planned every month this year, and 12 next year.
Jinsin5
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada44 Posts
September 10 2010 02:00 GMT
#5
There goes another 20$ and I can't think of a single thing more worth it.
GenoZStriker
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2914 Posts
September 10 2010 02:05 GMT
#6
:/ Way too early if you ask me.
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Madder
Profile Joined February 2010
Australia427 Posts
September 10 2010 02:06 GMT
#7
On September 10 2010 10:59 jdwashere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2010 10:57 Tabbris wrote:
Wow the GSL must of been a decent success


Well there's already 1 planned every month this year, and 12 next year.

They're really putting in a lot for SC2!

Hopefully, more foreigners will participate. =]
theqat
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States2856 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-10 02:09:13
September 10 2010 02:07 GMT
#8
On September 10 2010 11:05 GenoZStriker wrote:
:/ Way too early if you ask me.


The plan has always been to have the tournaments monthly, and if you're going to have multiple thousands of people signing up, you may as well have a full week for sign-ups and let everyone know when it will be.

I am curious to see whether previous performance has any bearing on the following tournaments. Can you qualify into a seeded spot in the next ro64 somehow?
Alou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States3748 Posts
September 10 2010 02:08 GMT
#9
On September 10 2010 11:05 GenoZStriker wrote:
:/ Way too early if you ask me.


It was planned for them to have one every remaining month of this year to prepare themselves for their league next year. Makes sense.
Life is Good.
Madder
Profile Joined February 2010
Australia427 Posts
September 10 2010 02:09 GMT
#10
On September 10 2010 11:05 GenoZStriker wrote:
:/ Way too early if you ask me.

Imo, it'll only increase the pro SC2 scene even more. =]

But hopefully Blizzard can polish the game (balance, etc.) before the next GSL.
Tabbris
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Bangladesh2839 Posts
September 10 2010 02:14 GMT
#11
On September 10 2010 10:59 jdwashere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2010 10:57 Tabbris wrote:
Wow the GSL must of been a decent success


Well there's already 1 planned every month this year, and 12 next year.

Wow....
lim1017
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1278 Posts
September 10 2010 02:32 GMT
#12
i hope more EU/NA players take the plunge this time around
Beardfish
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States525 Posts
September 10 2010 02:34 GMT
#13
I'll put in $20 if they actually offer a HD (720p+) stream and vods.
King K. Rool
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada4408 Posts
September 10 2010 02:36 GMT
#14
One each month?

Doesn't that sort of take away the prestige of it?
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
September 10 2010 02:37 GMT
#15
Is there an entry fee?
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lac29
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1485 Posts
September 10 2010 02:38 GMT
#16
It thought it was supposed to be 3 seasons per year?
Mato
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia412 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-10 02:43:04
September 10 2010 02:42 GMT
#17
On September 10 2010 11:00 Jinsin5 wrote:
There goes another 20$ and I can't think of a single thing more worth it.


This, regular pro games on weekday nights (being an Aussie, games starting 7pm is primetime~) is awesome.

Only thing disappoiting so far has been a large skill disparity in some games, but I guess as qualification gets harder and people get autos (im assuming winners, top2/4/8 etc will get invites into the next season(s)) games will be more even and overall less mistakes etc.
Slasher
Profile Joined September 2007
United States1095 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-10 03:13:03
September 10 2010 03:12 GMT
#18
preliminaries are same dates as IEM USA finals in NYC. MLG DC is the weekend after, and BlizzCon is the weekend after that. Poor decision making IMO.
SaturnAttack
Profile Joined September 2010
United States125 Posts
September 10 2010 03:17 GMT
#19
Yeah I wish there was some coordination at the international level for events
Whiladan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States463 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-10 04:30:24
September 10 2010 04:17 GMT
#20
On September 10 2010 12:12 Slasher wrote:
preliminaries are same dates as IEM USA finals in NYC. MLG DC is the weekend after, and BlizzCon is the weekend after that. Poor decision making IMO.


The great thing about GSL for players though, is that the next season will never be too far away. This goes both for players who feel they underperformed in the current season and for players who can't make it to a specific season.
BFCrimson
Profile Joined August 2010
United States176 Posts
September 10 2010 04:44 GMT
#21
On September 10 2010 12:12 Slasher wrote:
preliminaries are same dates as IEM USA finals in NYC. MLG DC is the weekend after, and BlizzCon is the weekend after that. Poor decision making IMO.


When else would you have a monthly tournament? They were unaware of the support they would get from the foreign community towards the first GSL so I don't foresee them accommodating foreign tournaments anyway
ryanAnger
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States838 Posts
September 10 2010 05:15 GMT
#22
On September 10 2010 13:17 Whiladan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2010 12:12 Slasher wrote:
preliminaries are same dates as IEM USA finals in NYC. MLG DC is the weekend after, and BlizzCon is the weekend after that. Poor decision making IMO.


The great thing about GSL for players though, is that the next season will never be too far away. This goes both for players who feel they underperformed in the current season and for players who can't make it to a specific season.


Yeah, I'm hoping Artosis will make it further next time. He's a good player I just think that he's got a lot on his plate, both practicing and casting.
On my way...
Govou
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1072 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-10 05:42:27
September 10 2010 05:22 GMT
#23
in case some people forgot :

Global Starcraft II League

- 2010 GSL is a league to determine the groups for the 2011 GSL.
- It will be decided through 3 StarCraft II Open Tournaments. The players are assigned points for their accomplishments in these leagues. (Points will be revealed after all three tournaments are complete)

- The format will be single elimination. (Bo3 for Ro64~Ro8, Bo5 semi, Bo7 finals)
- The prize pool for each tournament will be about 200,000,000 won (app. 170,000 USD)
- Default speed will be 'Very Fast' (guessing faster)
- Player must use the race they register with
- Up to the semifinals, Blizzard's official 1v1 maps will be used. Both players pick 2 maps they want excluded from the pool, then the maps are randomly chosen for each set.
- The finals will be the same way except both players pick 1 map they want excluded from the pool.
- After all three tournaments, the top 32 will become "Code S" players.
- 33rd-96th will become "Code A" players.
- Code S players and Code A players earn the right to participate in the GSL 2011.
- If a Code S player drops out before GSL 2011 starts, the top Code A player will fill the spot etc.


btw I dont mean to side track this thread but there is a news circulating that few top SC1 pro gamers that are switching over to SC2.

http://media.daum.net/cplist/view.html?cateid=1004&cpid=119&newsid=20100908210507929&p=fomos

1 of them is July[z-zone] and rumor has it that the other 1 of them is either boxer or Nada. below is the link saying July is switching over to SC2.

http://sports.media.daum.net/general/news/esports/breaking/view.html?cateid=1079&newsid=20100910132005772&p=fomos
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-10 05:29:19
September 10 2010 05:27 GMT
#24
GSL goes too fast, not enough hype for matches IMO. Definatly Id prefer if they did it every 2/3 months, hard to follow and watch the games, play, and do other stuff in life with this many matches.

And it's also being harder to find a player to cheer for.... Oh well, more games I guess.
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gozima
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada602 Posts
September 10 2010 05:39 GMT
#25
More top ranked foreigners need to participate before former and current top BW players make the switch and start dominating.

Hurry guys, gogogo.
ZenViper
Profile Joined June 2010
Korea (South)115 Posts
September 10 2010 08:35 GMT
#26
I will be there again... hopefully I can qualify this time! =D
ZenViper
Profile Joined June 2010
Korea (South)115 Posts
September 10 2010 10:49 GMT
#27
On September 10 2010 14:27 Skillz_Man wrote:
GSL goes too fast, not enough hype for matches IMO. Definatly Id prefer if they did it every 2/3 months, hard to follow and watch the games, play, and do other stuff in life with this many matches.

And it's also being harder to find a player to cheer for.... Oh well, more games I guess.


I believe it will smooth out after these Open tournaments when the best are chosen for next year! Also you get to see new players possibly emerge as top contenders.
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19057 Posts
September 10 2010 11:20 GMT
#28
They forgot to say "you have to be in Korea". Honestly, this would be a lot better if you could do online prelims (lol realm lock) before deciding to dump so much money into travel+lodgings+food.
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Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
September 10 2010 11:32 GMT
#29
really really really interested to know if any other non-korean progamers are considering participating in this.
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disco
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Netherlands1667 Posts
September 10 2010 11:35 GMT
#30
Wait, so is there this massive prize pool every month?
this game is a fucking jokie
T0fuuu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia2275 Posts
September 10 2010 12:36 GMT
#31
On September 10 2010 20:35 disco wrote:
Wait, so is there this massive prize pool every month?

yes. i suggest you book your flight now (:

I hope to see at least one or 2 new faces take the flight over to korea. Has haypro gone yet ? or is he going with ret ?
teko
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada1197 Posts
September 10 2010 16:27 GMT
#32
On September 10 2010 11:00 Jinsin5 wrote:
There goes another 20$ and I can't think of a single thing more worth it.


Agree.

I've watched every single game so far. So, for $20, the entertainment value is pretty high.

Willing to pay more for higher quality VODs D:

fadestep
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States605 Posts
September 12 2010 03:05 GMT
#33
awesome. nice to keep the activity up
not a hero
FireHazard
Profile Joined August 2010
United States54 Posts
September 12 2010 03:18 GMT
#34
This $20 thing a month feels like having a WoW subscription

Of course, I'm going to pay it, since I can't resist!

Since they're having a $86,000 tournament every month, a pro gamer could potentially play (and win a few) GSL tournaments for a couple years and retire for life. Madness.
fainez
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States91 Posts
September 12 2010 04:00 GMT
#35
has anyone heard which if any of the NA / EU players will be going over?
backtoback
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada1276 Posts
September 12 2010 04:13 GMT
#36
wow another $85000 USD tourney winner every month... my god that is a lot of money compared to BW winners. I hope many switch and BW dies to SC2

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ILIVEFORAIUR
Profile Joined February 2010
United States173 Posts
September 12 2010 04:15 GMT
#37
As of right now, in my opinion, I find more enjoyment in watching the streams on TL, iccuptv, gosugamers etc., than watching a low "high" quality broadcast at 3 am with players not as good lol
5 Gate Muta FTW!
BFCrimson
Profile Joined August 2010
United States176 Posts
September 12 2010 04:18 GMT
#38
If I remember correctly, once the season officially starts next year (GOM refers to the first 3 tournaments of this year as preseasons), the money actually won't be as high. These first huge prize pools are meant to draw in potential contenders from BW and the general public. Though don't get me wrong, the regular season tournaments have some pretty hefty prizes regardless
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
September 12 2010 05:43 GMT
#39
On September 10 2010 14:22 Yemack wrote:
in case some people forgot :

Show nested quote +
Global Starcraft II League

- 2010 GSL is a league to determine the groups for the 2011 GSL.
- It will be decided through 3 StarCraft II Open Tournaments. The players are assigned points for their accomplishments in these leagues. (Points will be revealed after all three tournaments are complete)

- The format will be single elimination. (Bo3 for Ro64~Ro8, Bo5 semi, Bo7 finals)
- The prize pool for each tournament will be about 200,000,000 won (app. 170,000 USD)
- Default speed will be 'Very Fast' (guessing faster)
- Player must use the race they register with
- Up to the semifinals, Blizzard's official 1v1 maps will be used. Both players pick 2 maps they want excluded from the pool, then the maps are randomly chosen for each set.
- The finals will be the same way except both players pick 1 map they want excluded from the pool.
- After all three tournaments, the top 32 will become "Code S" players.
- 33rd-96th will become "Code A" players.
- Code S players and Code A players earn the right to participate in the GSL 2011.
- If a Code S player drops out before GSL 2011 starts, the top Code A player will fill the spot etc.


Sorry if I'm coming off as kind of dense here, so these 3 months of "preseasons", which has prize pools of 170k US, sets up the 2011 GSL season, with 32 Code S players, what happens in the actual season? Is it a month playoff, or do they compete until the season is "over" in which case, more random/new players can register and attempt to qualify in another set of preseasons?


the farm ends here
Elevators
Profile Joined March 2010
United States56 Posts
September 12 2010 06:47 GMT
#40
JulyZerg is going to be in the next GSL. )) I wonder if any other BW progamers are going to switch over in time.
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NerO
Profile Joined February 2003
United States2071 Posts
September 12 2010 06:48 GMT
#41
How much are the prizes for these monthly things? Anyone know their payout structure for GSL?
JQL
Profile Joined July 2010
United States214 Posts
September 12 2010 06:54 GMT
#42
Season 2 already on the way, that was fast. There must have been a lot of players that didnt get a chance this season.
no way
Mortician
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Bulgaria2332 Posts
September 12 2010 07:25 GMT
#43
On September 12 2010 13:13 backtoback wrote:
wow another $85000 USD tourney winner every month... my god that is a lot of money compared to BW winners. I hope many switch and BW dies to SC2


Actually it is not, because if you dont win you dont get to eat a whole month
"If anything, the skill cap in sc2 is higher [than sc1] because there are a lot more things you can do at one given time. " darmousseh
Plaaguu
Profile Joined April 2009
United States406 Posts
September 12 2010 07:38 GMT
#44
On September 12 2010 16:25 Mortician wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2010 13:13 backtoback wrote:
wow another $85000 USD tourney winner every month... my god that is a lot of money compared to BW winners. I hope many switch and BW dies to SC2


Actually it is not, because if you dont win you dont get to eat a whole month


I don't know why people keep on hoping for BW to die out. That's such a depressing thought.
numLoCK
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada1416 Posts
September 12 2010 08:05 GMT
#45
On September 12 2010 16:38 edhead999 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2010 16:25 Mortician wrote:
On September 12 2010 13:13 backtoback wrote:
wow another $85000 USD tourney winner every month... my god that is a lot of money compared to BW winners. I hope many switch and BW dies to SC2


Actually it is not, because if you dont win you dont get to eat a whole month


I don't know why people keep on hoping for BW to die out. That's such a depressing thought.

Because they are silly new people who disrespect their history.
A monthly tournament seems kinda weird to me though, compared to the OSL or MSL. How prestigious can a tournament be if there are 12 winners after 12 months?
Thurokiir
Profile Joined June 2010
United States779 Posts
September 12 2010 08:34 GMT
#46
While the statement about BW death is totally uncalled for and hostile on a website that is dedicated to both of them.

As a clarifier, the 12 winners and other high performers are selected for the GSL championships for an even bigger prize pool finals.

Should be extremely intense.
Tahts halo dont worry
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-12 08:39:54
September 12 2010 08:39 GMT
#47
On September 10 2010 11:05 GenoZStriker wrote:
:/ Way too early if you ask me.


preliminaries are early october, so if they don't announce it now there won't be any time for foreigners to prepare...

still, as previously mentioned, people don't seem to get that the three GSL tournaments this year are meant for qualification for the league in 2011 - of course not "only", but it's not like that this GSL-tourney is WCG or something; the huge prize-money makes it seem much more "special" than it is
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Heimatloser
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany1494 Posts
September 12 2010 11:07 GMT
#48
wait - no second or third place prize money?
this is odd.
All what KT currently needs is a Zerg and a second Terran
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
September 12 2010 11:15 GMT
#49
Surprised it's all starting again so soon.
s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
September 12 2010 11:15 GMT
#50
On September 12 2010 20:07 Heimatloser wrote:
wait - no second or third place prize money?
this is odd.


check the liquipedia page on gom, the prizes are up to 64 players and total poll is 170k dollars.
I am not good with quotes
Shika
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden1711 Posts
September 12 2010 11:41 GMT
#51
- After all three tournaments, the top 32 will become "Code S" players.
- 33rd-96th will become "Code A" players.
- Code S players and Code A players earn the right to participate in the GSL 2011.
- If a Code S player drops out before GSL 2011 starts, the top Code A player will fill the spot etc.


Hmm, so if you missed the GSL 2010 train (which alot of the worlds best players will do) there's no way to get on the train for atleast another year?
chocopan
Profile Joined April 2010
Japan986 Posts
September 12 2010 12:03 GMT
#52
On September 10 2010 11:42 Mato wrote:
This, regular pro games on weekday nights (being an Aussie, games starting 7pm is primetime~) is awesome.


Same in Japan, 6 to 9 every weeknight, I'm in SC heaven XD .
Dance those ultras
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
September 12 2010 12:16 GMT
#53
On September 10 2010 12:12 Slasher wrote:
preliminaries are same dates as IEM USA finals in NYC. MLG DC is the weekend after, and BlizzCon is the weekend after that. Poor decision making IMO.

You can't always schedule your way around the others, are they supposed to delay everything for three weeks because of other events? That seems rather unreasonable. Yes, they allow non-Koreans to participate and have an English stream, but it's still a mostly Korean event, you shouldn't expect them to schedule around non-Korean events.
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Govou
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1072 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-12 12:54:27
September 12 2010 12:41 GMT
#54
On September 12 2010 14:43 PartyBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2010 14:22 Yemack wrote:
in case some people forgot :

Global Starcraft II League

- 2010 GSL is a league to determine the groups for the 2011 GSL.
- It will be decided through 3 StarCraft II Open Tournaments. The players are assigned points for their accomplishments in these leagues. (Points will be revealed after all three tournaments are complete)

- The format will be single elimination. (Bo3 for Ro64~Ro8, Bo5 semi, Bo7 finals)
- The prize pool for each tournament will be about 200,000,000 won (app. 170,000 USD)
- Default speed will be 'Very Fast' (guessing faster)
- Player must use the race they register with
- Up to the semifinals, Blizzard's official 1v1 maps will be used. Both players pick 2 maps they want excluded from the pool, then the maps are randomly chosen for each set.
- The finals will be the same way except both players pick 1 map they want excluded from the pool.
- After all three tournaments, the top 32 will become "Code S" players.
- 33rd-96th will become "Code A" players.
- Code S players and Code A players earn the right to participate in the GSL 2011.
- If a Code S player drops out before GSL 2011 starts, the top Code A player will fill the spot etc.


Sorry if I'm coming off as kind of dense here, so these 3 months of "preseasons", which has prize pools of 170k US, sets up the 2011 GSL season, with 32 Code S players, what happens in the actual season? Is it a month playoff, or do they compete until the season is "over" in which case, more random/new players can register and attempt to qualify in another set of preseasons?




I dont think it says how it will be structured anywhere in web in english but I remember reading a korean article about it.

If I remember it correctly, there WON'T be a GSL league game every month but rather 4~5 GSL league tournaments a year.

However, in between GSL league tournaments, there will be various other events. My memory is little fuzzy but if I may try, one was called 'SC global ladder challenge' and it was going to invite top ranked ladder players from all different regions for a tournament. There were few more events but I dont remember them atm. I will try to search it and if I find it, will provide a link.

Also, if I remember it correctly, even if you dont win prize in a tournament, you will be paid a money (like a salary) by just holding either code S or code A rank. I dont think it will be much though.

ps I found this from korean wikipedia site

- GSL will be held in Jan, Mar, Apr, Jul, and Sep
- World Championship will be held in Jun, Oct
- Ladder Tournament will be held in Feb, May, Aug, Nov
- Blizzard Cup, in december

http://ko.wikipedia.org/wiki/글로벌_스타크래프트2_리그

basically an event every month.
mmdmmd
Profile Joined June 2007
722 Posts
September 12 2010 13:08 GMT
#55
I expect the number of foreign entries to drop over time.

I mean how many can continuously afford to: take a break(job/study), pay for travel, pay for accommodation, pay for meals(I doubt you can cook in hotels).
pinkranger15
Profile Joined June 2010
Philippines1597 Posts
September 12 2010 14:48 GMT
#56
wow! this is great! i hope a lot of foreign players will join/qualify next season
yoyo!
Energin
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada89 Posts
September 12 2010 15:29 GMT
#57
GSL has been great to watch so far. As someone else was saying I hope they do the VOD's in HQ for next season b/c the actual matches are too early in the morning to watch live. That said, its been well worth the 20 dollars for what we've been given so far and I plan to pay for next season as well.

With regards to the NA tournaments, it'll make an interesting decision for our pros. I imagine those who are already living over there won't travel back here for them, but I was ULTRA impressed with how MLG ran their tournament and I plan to continue to tune into their events, that was actually the most exciting tournament I've seen so far.

IEM was pretty meh, their host was someone with an agenda to whine about game balance and their coverage was broken up too much.

as for Blizzcon, they stopped free streaming those a few years ago opting for PPV instead and honestly I don't think its worth it because they stopped giving good in depth opinions on topics, opting for generalized political answers instead. I remember back when someone would be like "hey, rogues aren't being used in 5v5, is anything in the works to change that?" and they'd answer with stuff like yes, we're looking to increase their mobility and to give them another offensive debuff they can put on their target. These days they'd just answer something like "its something we may be looking into" which doesn't tell anyone anything.

So basically I hope that GSL doesn't overly effect MLG becuase that's a quality tournament but the other two aren't a big deal from a spectator standpoint.
timrikwideue!
Ndugu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1078 Posts
September 12 2010 15:35 GMT
#58
This thing is not worth $20 and the VOD quality is atrociously poor (coming from someone who paid this time to support e-sports). Please make this worth it to a somewhat more casual e-sports fan, GOM.
Hunch
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada336 Posts
September 12 2010 15:38 GMT
#59
wow if they have the same prize pool this is gonna be nuts O_o
I have a Hunch.770
jrkirby
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1510 Posts
September 12 2010 15:47 GMT
#60
On September 12 2010 16:38 edhead999 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2010 16:25 Mortician wrote:
On September 12 2010 13:13 backtoback wrote:
wow another $85000 USD tourney winner every month... my god that is a lot of money compared to BW winners. I hope many switch and BW dies to SC2


Actually it is not, because if you dont win you dont get to eat a whole month


I don't know why people keep on hoping for BW to die out. That's such a depressing thought.


I barely ever played regular SC:BW (I only played UMS) but I still love watching the pro's play BW as much as I love watching SC2. Now I only play SC2 ladders though.
Aegeis
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1619 Posts
September 12 2010 16:00 GMT
#61
Soo many foreigners are going to join GSL this time around, would love to see Socke, Incontrol, ect.

With this GSL I got a few pro's that I root for but not as many as I was expecting.
"Skills to pay the bills" - Artosis, https://twitter.com/AegeisSC2 ,http://www.tumblr.com/blog/socal-esports
shrinkmaster
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany947 Posts
September 12 2010 16:56 GMT
#62
Nice to hear that everything is going smoothly according to their schedule and GL to all foreigners who go to korea to play in the GSL.

I won't be spending the 20 bucks for the second GSL, though. The high quality stream wasn't that much better than the free stream and the vods are horrible quality wise.
I can understand their problems with bringing us worldwide high quality streams, but i can't understand that they're not providing 720p+ VODs.
Most of the time i can't watch the live games, because i'm at work and watching this horrible horrible quality vods is just unbearable.
Voltaire: The true triumph of reason is that it enables us to get along with those who do not possess it.
Aurious
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Canada1772 Posts
September 12 2010 17:46 GMT
#63
1 a month seems excessive what about breaks for the players?
Scodia
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom588 Posts
September 12 2010 18:08 GMT
#64
I think I remember reading somewhere, (think it was when MLG was taking place) possibly hotbids blog. That HuK kinda wished he'd gone to GSL when he heard qualification wasn't to hard.
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cerebralz
Profile Joined August 2009
United States443 Posts
September 12 2010 20:01 GMT
#65
For the sake of international esports, i think this is going to be a success. As it is, with 3 foreigners qualifying for the ro64, you can assume the amount of interest to watch and purchase the VoD package would be nominal. I bought a ticket and when i watch VoD's i see about 15k views on each. Assuming at least half of those are re-views on the high side, half on the low side, 8,000 to 10,000 sales are not bad. At $20 US a pop, that's $160,000- $200,000 gross. More than enough to cover the prize pool, although the production costs are probably still much higher.

Imagine when there are 10-15 foreigners in the tournament, subscriptions will rise and make the books look much better, leading to much better productions. Perhaps making the ro64 will actually make you money enough to encourage more people to live in korea becoming a pro-like scene.

Numbers will draw sponsorships and with more sponsors, the more flexibility Gomtv has to possibly make teams and its own proleague, or different starleagues, or whatever. Please people don't stop supporting this. It will get better and better.
SoJu.WeRRa
Profile Joined June 2010
Korea (South)820 Posts
September 12 2010 20:25 GMT
#66
good! gogo!
나를 찢어갈겨이씨발놈아왜나를미치게만들어니가뭘아는데?
DrakanSilva
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Chile932 Posts
September 12 2010 21:52 GMT
#67
awesomeness!
Gogogogo Foreigners !
In the beginning there was nothing... and then exploded
Artifice
Profile Joined May 2010
United States523 Posts
September 12 2010 23:00 GMT
#68
HuK my love, will you be attending?
z00t
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia976 Posts
September 13 2010 01:00 GMT
#69
Many foreigners, from the impression I get reading forums, feel that the standard of play thus far in the first GSL isn't what you'd expect from the biggest SC2 tournament to date.

I really hope that this spurs the top foreign players to realise that they've got a very good shot at taking the win, and that we'll see many more foreigners next season!

However, Koreans also seem to have taken notice that some of the players in the GSL aren't that good . Most notably, JulyZerg stated in his SC2-move-announcement that he felt that he could have gotten through the preliminaries if he participated.

With a much greater number of top players getting interested in the GSL, next season is looking like it's going to be really epic. :O

nitdkim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
1264 Posts
September 13 2010 01:35 GMT
#70
On September 10 2010 11:09 Madder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2010 11:05 GenoZStriker wrote:
:/ Way too early if you ask me.

Imo, it'll only increase the pro SC2 scene even more. =]

But hopefully Blizzard can polish the game (balance, etc.) before the next GSL.


1 gsl a month might equate to 1 patch a month? lol
PM me if you want random korean images translated.
gogogadgetflow
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2583 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-13 01:48:18
September 13 2010 01:45 GMT
#71
oops
gogogadgetflow
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2583 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-13 01:48:26
September 13 2010 01:47 GMT
#72
On September 12 2010 17:05 numLoCK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2010 16:38 edhead999 wrote:
On September 12 2010 16:25 Mortician wrote:
On September 12 2010 13:13 backtoback wrote:
wow another $85000 USD tourney winner every month... my god that is a lot of money compared to BW winners. I hope many switch and BW dies to SC2


Actually it is not, because if you dont win you dont get to eat a whole month


I don't know why people keep on hoping for BW to die out. That's such a depressing thought.

Because they are silly new people who disrespect their history.
A monthly tournament seems kinda weird to me though, compared to the OSL or MSL. How prestigious can a tournament be if there are 12 winners after 12 months?

I believe there is one every month in the same spirit that its an OPEN competition - as many people as possible should be able to try their luck in the gsl. Think about it: more tournaments = greater chance that a foreigner finishes well (really well, maybe even first) = greater exposure for the gsl all over the world.

Edit: Would be great to get some of our NA and EU notables checking in here what month if any they plan on heading to seoul
shire
Profile Joined August 2010
United States405 Posts
September 13 2010 05:45 GMT
#73
ya is there a way to find out which na or eu players will be trying out for gsl?
heishe
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany2284 Posts
September 13 2010 06:45 GMT
#74
On September 13 2010 10:47 gogogadgetflow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2010 17:05 numLoCK wrote:
On September 12 2010 16:38 edhead999 wrote:
On September 12 2010 16:25 Mortician wrote:
On September 12 2010 13:13 backtoback wrote:
wow another $85000 USD tourney winner every month... my god that is a lot of money compared to BW winners. I hope many switch and BW dies to SC2


Actually it is not, because if you dont win you dont get to eat a whole month


I don't know why people keep on hoping for BW to die out. That's such a depressing thought.

Because they are silly new people who disrespect their history.
A monthly tournament seems kinda weird to me though, compared to the OSL or MSL. How prestigious can a tournament be if there are 12 winners after 12 months?

I believe there is one every month in the same spirit that its an OPEN competition - as many people as possible should be able to try their luck in the gsl. Think about it: more tournaments = greater chance that a foreigner finishes well (really well, maybe even first) = greater exposure for the gsl all over the world.

Edit: Would be great to get some of our NA and EU notables checking in here what month if any they plan on heading to seoul


You guys should inform yourself a little bit about the GSL system. These "opens" that the players participate in 12 times a month are actually televised qualifiers with a prizepool for a big tournament/league that runs every 3 months. There will also be a clan league next year and a couple of extra tournaments (ladder invite etc.)
If you value your soul, never look into the eye of a horse. Your soul will forever be lost in the void of the horse.
cablesc
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1540 Posts
September 13 2010 07:56 GMT
#75
A lot of misinformation in this thread. Here's the details from the original announcement thread:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=141496

There will be 3 open tournaments this year to determine the groups for 2011 GSL tournament season.

Spoiler for details:

+ Show Spoiler +
- 2010 GSL is a league to determine the groups for the 2011 GSL.
- It will be decided through 3 StarCraft II Open Tournaments. The players are assigned points for their accomplishments in these leagues. (Points will be revealed after all three tournaments are complete)
- The format will be single elimination. (Bo3 for Ro64~Ro8, Bo5 semi, Bo7 finals)
- The prize pool for each tournament will be about 200,000,000 won (app. 170,000 USD)
- Default speed will be 'Very Fast' (guessing faster)
- Player must use the race they register with
- Up to the semifinals, Blizzard's official 1v1 maps will be used. Both players pick 2 maps they want excluded from the pool, then the maps are randomly chosen for each set.
- The finals will be the same way except both players pick 1 map they want excluded from the pool.
- After all three tournaments, the top 32 will become "Code S" players.
- 33rd-96th will become "Code A" players.
- Code S players and Code A players earn the right to participate in the GSL 2011.
- If a Code S player drops out before GSL 2011 starts, the top Code A player will fill the spot etc.



There will be 12 "GSL" tournaments throughout 2011, and there will be 4 types of tournaments.

+ Show Spoiler +
1. GSL (Ran in January, March, April, July and September) - Main League. 32 Code S players tournament and 64 Code A players tournament.
2. World Championship (Ran in June and October) - 4 representative from each region in a 16 man tournament.
3. Ladder Tournament (Ran in February, May, August and November) - Tournament to decide best of Battle.Net ladder. Top 200 from each region are invited to participate in a preliminary for a 16 man double elimination tournament.
4. Blizzard Cup (Ran in December) - Top 8 (of GSL ranking I'm guessing?) will be invited to decide the best player of the year in a Bo5 Playoff format tournament.


Not sure how they're going to do the World Championship and the Ladder Tournament, but if they can do the prelims in the home region, that would make it much more global and expand the scale of these tournaments.
Slayers Forever! Rip. :( - Not the eSports organizer, that's CableStarcraft.
nekuodah
Profile Joined August 2010
England2409 Posts
September 13 2010 08:53 GMT
#76
Hopefully more foreigners will go to this one, especially after some mentioned that they would really like to go after seeing the level of (or lack of) competition in the qualifiers.
Sanguinarius
Profile Joined January 2010
United States3427 Posts
September 13 2010 15:25 GMT
#77
Awesome news.
Your strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others -Heart of Darkness
Burn2Memory
Profile Joined August 2010
United States574 Posts
September 13 2010 16:37 GMT
#78
Need more foreigners, I really think they can do well.
GhoSt[shield]
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2131 Posts
September 13 2010 19:38 GMT
#79
A yearly fee for the 12 monthly tournaments would be much nicer than having to shell of $20 a month. I already paid my $20 at gomtv.net and I while I have enjoyed it immensely, $240 for a years viewing is kind of steep considering I am a university student. A package deal of ~$100-140 would be much easier on the wallet overall. Maybe I should be posting this in the gomtv thread.
Tanatos
Profile Joined April 2010
United States381 Posts
September 13 2010 20:02 GMT
#80
Is Liquid team gonna try again for this one?
jamesr12
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1549 Posts
September 14 2010 00:10 GMT
#81
On September 14 2010 04:38 GhoSt[shield] wrote:
A yearly fee for the 12 monthly tournaments would be much nicer than having to shell of $20 a month. I already paid my $20 at gomtv.net and I while I have enjoyed it immensely, $240 for a years viewing is kind of steep considering I am a university student. A package deal of ~$100-140 would be much easier on the wallet overall. Maybe I should be posting this in the gomtv thread.


companies generally love cash up front type deals like this, I am suprised they dont have a package like this already
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=306479
MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
September 14 2010 00:35 GMT
#82
Wait, the second one is already close to starting, while the first one is still in round of 32? What?
"One fish, two fish, red fish, BLUE TANK!" - Artosis
SiguR
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada2039 Posts
September 14 2010 01:15 GMT
#83
On September 14 2010 09:35 MangoTango wrote:
Wait, the second one is already close to starting, while the first one is still in round of 32? What?


Some people need a bit of warning to get their affairs in order and head over to korea to try and qualify.

There's typically no harm in giving extra notice before an event.
DTWolfwood
Profile Joined May 2010
38 Posts
September 14 2010 18:38 GMT
#84
the # of hours of awesome SC2 matches you get for $20...yeah worth EVERY penny

Today's match between oGsCezanne v HongUnPrime is a must see! <3 lets just say the Set2 and Set3 are "SicK!"
No its not Dark Templar
enzym
Profile Joined January 2010
Germany1034 Posts
September 15 2010 04:09 GMT
#85
will haypro and ret make it in time for the 2nd/3rd qualifier then? when are they going to join their mighty team in korea? i know ret plans to finish his driving licence first, but dont remember reading a date related to that.
"I fart a lot, often on my gf in bed, then we roll around laughing for 5 mins choking in gas." — exog // "…be'master, the art of reflection. If you are not a thinking man, to what purpose are you a man at all?" — S. T. Coleridge
Kilby
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland1069 Posts
September 24 2010 20:28 GMT
#86
I think people like SeleCT, Huk, MorroW, KiWiKaKi, Naama, BratOK, WhiteRa and DeMuslim should definitely be going to try their luck at GSL. Sure the plane tickets might be expensive but the rewards might be pretty huge as well. Especially now when the koreans are not so far ahead yet.

Few months from now it might be too late.
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