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On August 21 2010 02:58 kar1181 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2010 02:03 Sfydjklm wrote:On August 21 2010 00:25 shlomo wrote:
Jinro: read the post above yours.
But seriously, are we going to argue over the skill it takes to pull of reaper, hellion, banshee harass vs the skill it takes to cover your ass against all of it with zerglings/queen/crawler while taking an expo and still not come out crippled? Rofl. Must be why Zerg is all over the ladder amirite bro? actually the problem is that you can't micro zerg units not that theyre hard to micro. You can't micro zerg units? Did you see Idra's insane roach mass micro in game 5 vs sarens? The way he achieved such a perfect concave with so many units was remarkable.
He's exagerrating, but it's true that zerg units have way less range and are actually quite a bit slower in the early game vs terran. They need creep to even stand a chance against harass. reapers and hellions are both very early game units that are really fast, have longer range than everything except queen in tier 1, and do bonus damage to drones and zerglings.
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Would've liked a TLO - Idra final, but Morrow played really solid after the first game and made it really hard for TLO to harass him, and the last game it looked like TLO wasn't sure what to really do. Morrow definitely deserved the win there, so hopefully we'll see a Morrow - Idra final now.
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lol this should be interesting
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What would it mean if it was a ZvZ final? Or TvT final? The game has been out less than a fucking month guys. The game evolves, many people have stated that, we have T win then Z win then P win then next tourney T wins again and everytime some idiot has to scream OP this and OP that. Shit changes, people find ways to counter strats, just stfu and enjoy playing and watching the game.
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On August 21 2010 06:08 Phiggot03 wrote:
What would it mean if it was a ZvZ final? Or TvT final? The game has been out less than a fucking month guys. The game evolves, many people have stated that, we have T win then Z win then P win then next tourney T wins again and everytime some idiot has to scream OP this and OP that. Shit changes, people find ways to counter strats, just stfu and enjoy playing and watching the game.
word up.
When exactly is the Nada TLO show match?
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Really great job on these threads, Brad. Top notch stuff.
I'm soooooooo pumped for the games tomorrow. All these players are fucking fantastic, no matter what way it goes, it's sure to be awesome.
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On August 21 2010 04:46 ShaperofDreams wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2010 02:58 kar1181 wrote:On August 21 2010 02:03 Sfydjklm wrote:On August 21 2010 00:25 shlomo wrote:
Jinro: read the post above yours.
But seriously, are we going to argue over the skill it takes to pull of reaper, hellion, banshee harass vs the skill it takes to cover your ass against all of it with zerglings/queen/crawler while taking an expo and still not come out crippled? Rofl. Must be why Zerg is all over the ladder amirite bro? actually the problem is that you can't micro zerg units not that theyre hard to micro. You can't micro zerg units? Did you see Idra's insane roach mass micro in game 5 vs sarens? The way he achieved such a perfect concave with so many units was remarkable. He's exagerrating, but it's true that zerg units have way less range and are actually quite a bit slower in the early game vs terran. They need creep to even stand a chance against harass. reapers and hellions are both very early game units that are really fast, have longer range than everything except queen in tier 1, and do bonus damage to drones and zerglings.
im exaggerating in a way that everything is micro, but in reality when we say micro we actually mean _advanced_ micro techniques that improve your unit performance, which zerg lacks early game.
Of course however dimaga-lings seem to be better at surrounding hellions then any other lings but personally i hate ling ai. I wish it was removed i would have mucch greater surround success rate. But then again, i guess ability to predict and correct AI's fault is part of the micro process isnt it? It just sorta hurts that you seem to have to be a 300 apm super zerg to get maximum out of your lings simply because the AI is supposedly better.
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What. da. fuck.
NADA?!
Good thing I logged in before hitting the sack. Alarmclock am set.
Jesus, seriously. What.
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May I ask how late it will be broadcasted europe time??
I really dont understand anyhitng about those time zones.
Thanks in advance
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Where will this be streamed?
and Deckkie, it's 15:10 Central European Time, so if you're in Paris and Copenhagen, 15:10 is 15:10. I don't know if Holland is the same as Paris / Copenhagen, but you could count from there. If Holland is the same as London, you will have to tune in at 14:10.
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On August 21 2010 05:50 Carras wrote:
sup with toss ??..
White-Ra was the only favourite to advance from the group stage and he didn't play 100% since he has real life distractions.
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Maybe, but from my conversations with White-ra, he has serious trouble with T atm (even though he lost vs Z as well)... not to add fuel to the fire of T is imba. But this was the core of our conversation=(
p.s.
I dont mean to discredit the people that beat him, they might have played better at the moment, but the way Ra expressed his problems with T to me told me that he is probably not gonna make it far in the tourney even before the games started (2T per group)... funny that he mentioned banshee's too, which I never saw as problem in my ladder experience (which to be fair is way lower than his..); and I discredited banshee's as a real concern... and than games with TLO followed:D
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IEM ZvZ finals
Make Terran is OP post
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If you've watched morrows games I don't see how he is going to lose. The early pressure he does against both P(which doesn't matter now) and Z is just really insane.
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On August 21 2010 05:50 Carras wrote:
sup with toss ??..
I know right? I mean Hasu, White Ra, and Huk are gone man they didn't even make it to T16. WTF man WTF!
Isn't Huk statistically #1 on the NA server (or was)?
Isn't White-Ra the iconic toss? White ra has real life issues to deal with right now
Isn't Hasu, Hasu?
So 65.5% of terrans make it (5/8)
75% Zerg make it (3/4)
0% of Toss Make it (0/4)
Perhaps this is deviation but if tournies keep showing these results...
From there
66.66666666666666666666666(etc)% of zerg make it to Semis (2/3)
40% of Terran make it to Semies (2/5)
Both close to half
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EPT
