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Sqq
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway2023 Posts
August 19 2010 22:25 GMT
#2221
On August 20 2010 07:11 teko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2010 06:46 Sqq wrote:
Where can I find VoDs for Demuslim vs Idra?


Should be listed in the VOD page soon: http://tv.esl.eu/de/vod/


Sadly its not. Yesterday also, the one game i missed and wanted to watch, no VoD. Silly ESL.
Dead girls don't say no.
epik640x
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1134 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-19 22:30:01
August 19 2010 22:29 GMT
#2222
ESL VoDs just do not load. 30 minutes of buffering and it still wouldn't play more than 3 seconds >.<

Wonder why they're splitting the casts and making it even more confusing between esl's site and gltv.
Dionyseus
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States2068 Posts
August 19 2010 22:29 GMT
#2223
On August 20 2010 06:47 Disarray wrote:
Day 2 Replay Pack up

http://www.mediafire.com/?ui4rsbtna7m4iym


Many thanks.
9/5/10 P acct: NA D 10,683 651pts 69w56L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/290365/LetoAtreides T acct: NA D 16,137 553pts 70w67L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/1560008/Khrone Z: NA G 16,058 465pts 28w26L http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/1997354/Omnius
Sqq
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway2023 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-19 22:33:06
August 19 2010 22:30 GMT
#2224
Sorry I just saw.

Why is A1 meet B2, and B1 meet A2

but in Group C and D

C1 meets D1 and C2 meets D2 ?

Someone explain the logic.
Dead girls don't say no.
3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
August 19 2010 22:32 GMT
#2225
On August 20 2010 02:29 thesighter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2010 02:27 Slow Motion wrote:
Idra calls someone else gay: "lolol so true what a badass for speaking his mind, terran so gay what a bunch of fags"

Demuslim calls his own build gay in self-deprecating way: "how unprofessional and disrespectful this guy is trash"


ya theres a difference though. idra is zerg and demuslim is terran!!

lol yeah
Idra has self-respect, while Demuslim has none because he plays terran
Dionyseus
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States2068 Posts
August 19 2010 22:36 GMT
#2226
On August 20 2010 07:30 Sqq wrote:
Who meets who in the Quarter Finals ?


http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season5/gamescom/sc2/playoffs/rankings/

TLO vs Morrow : I don't see Morrow surviving this, I don't like his non-tank play in TvT despite his claim that TvT is his best mu.

Demuslim vs Dimaga: Demuslim should win this.

Tarson vs MadFrog: Good chances for MadFrog.

Sarens vs Idra: I don't know who Sarens is, I was hoping there'd be a vod of Sarens today but instead they chose to have two vods of HasuObs, go figure. Sarens would have to be extremely good to be able to beat Idra.




9/5/10 P acct: NA D 10,683 651pts 69w56L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/290365/LetoAtreides T acct: NA D 16,137 553pts 70w67L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/1560008/Khrone Z: NA G 16,058 465pts 28w26L http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/1997354/Omnius
Dionyseus
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States2068 Posts
August 19 2010 22:38 GMT
#2227
On August 20 2010 07:30 Sqq wrote:
Sorry I just saw.

Why is A1 meet B2, and B1 meet A2

but in Group C and D

C1 meets D1 and C2 meets D2 ?

Someone explain the logic.


Because it goes by seeds. Top seed plays lowest seed, etc.
9/5/10 P acct: NA D 10,683 651pts 69w56L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/290365/LetoAtreides T acct: NA D 16,137 553pts 70w67L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/1560008/Khrone Z: NA G 16,058 465pts 28w26L http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/1997354/Omnius
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
August 19 2010 22:39 GMT
#2228
On August 20 2010 07:30 Sqq wrote:
Sorry I just saw.

Why is A1 meet B2, and B1 meet A2

but in Group C and D

C1 meets D1 and C2 meets D2 ?

Someone explain the logic.


It's been discussed earlier in the thread. I'm not sure there were any conclusive answer. Someone claimed Sarans didn't win his group based on the head to head with Dimaga. This seems to be to the contrary to the standings on all sites. The more likely answer, that several people heard being said on the stream, were that the playoff match-ups was semi random. But I didn't see anyone know for sure how it worked, or maybe I just missed it.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
August 19 2010 22:40 GMT
#2229
On August 20 2010 07:38 Dionyseus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2010 07:30 Sqq wrote:
Sorry I just saw.

Why is A1 meet B2, and B1 meet A2

but in Group C and D

C1 meets D1 and C2 meets D2 ?

Someone explain the logic.


Because it goes by seeds. Top seed plays lowest seed, etc.


What seeds?
Banelings are too cute to blow up
Dionyseus
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States2068 Posts
August 19 2010 22:41 GMT
#2230
On August 20 2010 07:39 nihlon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2010 07:30 Sqq wrote:
Sorry I just saw.

Why is A1 meet B2, and B1 meet A2

but in Group C and D

C1 meets D1 and C2 meets D2 ?

Someone explain the logic.


It's been discussed earlier in the thread. I'm not sure there were any conclusive answer. Someone claimed Sarans didn't win his group based on the head to head with Dimaga. This seems to be to the contrary to the standings on all sites. The more likely answer, that several people heard being said on the stream, were that the playoff match-ups was semi random. But I didn't see anyone know for sure how it worked, or maybe I just missed it.


Here's the scoring: http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season5/gamescom/sc2/groupstage/rankings/

TLO with his perfect 6-0 of course got first seed. Idra's performance of 6:2 is 2nd best so he got 2nd seed. Sarens got 5:3, and Dimaga got 4:4.
9/5/10 P acct: NA D 10,683 651pts 69w56L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/290365/LetoAtreides T acct: NA D 16,137 553pts 70w67L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/1560008/Khrone Z: NA G 16,058 465pts 28w26L http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/1997354/Omnius
Sqq
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway2023 Posts
August 19 2010 22:43 GMT
#2231
On August 20 2010 07:36 Dionyseus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2010 07:30 Sqq wrote:
Who meets who in the Quarter Finals ?


http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season5/gamescom/sc2/playoffs/rankings/

TLO vs Morrow : I don't see Morrow surviving this, I don't like his non-tank play in TvT despite his claim that TvT is his best mu.

Demuslim vs Dimaga: Demuslim should win this.

Tarson vs MadFrog: Good chances for MadFrog.

Sarens vs Idra: I don't know who Sarens is, I was hoping there'd be a vod of Sarens today but instead they chose to have two vods of HasuObs, go figure. Sarens would have to be extremely good to be able to beat Idra.






I'm hold a finger on Morrow. TBH people need to start masturbating over Dario. Hes excellent, but as stated Morrow is very very strong in TvT. This one is probably more 40\60 than 50\50. Tho TLO always has a trick up his sleave to even it out when odds arent favouring him.

DeMuslim vs Dimaga, No matter how badly I want Dimaga to take this one home, it smells of a Terran win here. Dimaga at his best is a beast, but he has shown so many times this tourney already that his level of focus and ability to play a long game is rather weak. Tho when he does it good, its near perfection.

Tarson will beat Madfrog. Even tho I'm rooting for Madfrog again I think Terran will be to strong in a BO3.

Sarens vs Idra. Idra win all the way, but I feel kinda sad for Saren, he seems excellent. Very few knew who he was comming in, but has really proven himself. If IdrA plays half as good as he did at times today he will take it. Cannot see an upset here.
Dead girls don't say no.
Sqq
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway2023 Posts
August 19 2010 22:45 GMT
#2232
On August 20 2010 07:41 Dionyseus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2010 07:39 nihlon wrote:
On August 20 2010 07:30 Sqq wrote:
Sorry I just saw.

Why is A1 meet B2, and B1 meet A2

but in Group C and D

C1 meets D1 and C2 meets D2 ?

Someone explain the logic.


It's been discussed earlier in the thread. I'm not sure there were any conclusive answer. Someone claimed Sarans didn't win his group based on the head to head with Dimaga. This seems to be to the contrary to the standings on all sites. The more likely answer, that several people heard being said on the stream, were that the playoff match-ups was semi random. But I didn't see anyone know for sure how it worked, or maybe I just missed it.


Here's the scoring: http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season5/gamescom/sc2/groupstage/rankings/

TLO with his perfect 6-0 of course got first seed. Idra's performance of 6:2 is 2nd best so he got 2nd seed. Sarens got 5:3, and Dimaga got 4:4.


Acording to that "logic" TLO should be meeting the worst player, and Idra the 2nd worse, not Saren. There must be some seeding as IdrA is probably seeded as 1, and Saren as relativly unknown last. Still I can't see the logic here at all.
Dead girls don't say no.
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-19 22:49:45
August 19 2010 22:46 GMT
#2233
On August 20 2010 07:41 Dionyseus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2010 07:39 nihlon wrote:
On August 20 2010 07:30 Sqq wrote:
Sorry I just saw.

Why is A1 meet B2, and B1 meet A2

but in Group C and D

C1 meets D1 and C2 meets D2 ?

Someone explain the logic.


It's been discussed earlier in the thread. I'm not sure there were any conclusive answer. Someone claimed Sarans didn't win his group based on the head to head with Dimaga. This seems to be to the contrary to the standings on all sites. The more likely answer, that several people heard being said on the stream, were that the playoff match-ups was semi random. But I didn't see anyone know for sure how it worked, or maybe I just missed it.


Here's the scoring: http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season5/gamescom/sc2/groupstage/rankings/

TLO with his perfect 6-0 of course got first seed. Idra's performance of 6:2 is 2nd best so he got 2nd seed. Sarens got 5:3, and Dimaga got 4:4.


Yes exactly. So why does Sarens face Idra? That's the whole point. Logically it would be Dimaga vs Idra and Demuslim vs Sarens in either case.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
Daimai
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden762 Posts
August 19 2010 22:48 GMT
#2234
Can anyone contact Dimaga in anyway? Just tell him that he should play his insane macroplay and he will win easily.
To pray is to accept defeat.
Sqq
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway2023 Posts
August 19 2010 22:50 GMT
#2235
On August 20 2010 07:48 Daimai wrote:
Can anyone contact Dimaga in anyway? Just tell him that he should play his insane macroplay and he will win easily.


His macro play is crazy, but it doesn't even reach IdrAs macro the the kneecaps.
Dead girls don't say no.
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
August 19 2010 22:52 GMT
#2236
On August 20 2010 07:45 Sqq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2010 07:41 Dionyseus wrote:
On August 20 2010 07:39 nihlon wrote:
On August 20 2010 07:30 Sqq wrote:
Sorry I just saw.

Why is A1 meet B2, and B1 meet A2

but in Group C and D

C1 meets D1 and C2 meets D2 ?

Someone explain the logic.


It's been discussed earlier in the thread. I'm not sure there were any conclusive answer. Someone claimed Sarans didn't win his group based on the head to head with Dimaga. This seems to be to the contrary to the standings on all sites. The more likely answer, that several people heard being said on the stream, were that the playoff match-ups was semi random. But I didn't see anyone know for sure how it worked, or maybe I just missed it.


Here's the scoring: http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season5/gamescom/sc2/groupstage/rankings/

TLO with his perfect 6-0 of course got first seed. Idra's performance of 6:2 is 2nd best so he got 2nd seed. Sarens got 5:3, and Dimaga got 4:4.


Acording to that "logic" TLO should be meeting the worst player, and Idra the 2nd worse, not Saren. There must be some seeding as IdrA is probably seeded as 1, and Saren as relativly unknown last. Still I can't see the logic here at all.


Here is one quote from another thread.

On August 20 2010 04:26 JoshSuth wrote:
Pretty sure they said the seeding was semi-random, with only the condition that two people from the same group cannot meet until Finals.


That's the only thing that makes sense to me as no seedings I've seen would explain the current match-ups.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
arctics86
Profile Joined December 2008
Germany797 Posts
August 19 2010 22:57 GMT
#2237
Another possibility is that in reality, dimaga IS first, but the esl ranking page is programmed to list score diff. before direct matchup
Cocacooh
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1510 Posts
August 19 2010 23:01 GMT
#2238
On August 20 2010 07:52 nihlon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2010 07:45 Sqq wrote:
On August 20 2010 07:41 Dionyseus wrote:
On August 20 2010 07:39 nihlon wrote:
On August 20 2010 07:30 Sqq wrote:
Sorry I just saw.

Why is A1 meet B2, and B1 meet A2

but in Group C and D

C1 meets D1 and C2 meets D2 ?

Someone explain the logic.


It's been discussed earlier in the thread. I'm not sure there were any conclusive answer. Someone claimed Sarans didn't win his group based on the head to head with Dimaga. This seems to be to the contrary to the standings on all sites. The more likely answer, that several people heard being said on the stream, were that the playoff match-ups was semi random. But I didn't see anyone know for sure how it worked, or maybe I just missed it.


Here's the scoring: http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season5/gamescom/sc2/groupstage/rankings/

TLO with his perfect 6-0 of course got first seed. Idra's performance of 6:2 is 2nd best so he got 2nd seed. Sarens got 5:3, and Dimaga got 4:4.


Acording to that "logic" TLO should be meeting the worst player, and Idra the 2nd worse, not Saren. There must be some seeding as IdrA is probably seeded as 1, and Saren as relativly unknown last. Still I can't see the logic here at all.


Here is one quote from another thread.

Show nested quote +
On August 20 2010 04:26 JoshSuth wrote:
Pretty sure they said the seeding was semi-random, with only the condition that two people from the same group cannot meet until Finals.


That's the only thing that makes sense to me as no seedings I've seen would explain the current match-ups.

The only thing that makes sense is that Dimaga got the first seed from his group, because of his head to head with Saren.
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-19 23:14:35
August 19 2010 23:03 GMT
#2239
On August 20 2010 08:01 Cocacooh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2010 07:52 nihlon wrote:
On August 20 2010 07:45 Sqq wrote:
On August 20 2010 07:41 Dionyseus wrote:
On August 20 2010 07:39 nihlon wrote:
On August 20 2010 07:30 Sqq wrote:
Sorry I just saw.

Why is A1 meet B2, and B1 meet A2

but in Group C and D

C1 meets D1 and C2 meets D2 ?

Someone explain the logic.


It's been discussed earlier in the thread. I'm not sure there were any conclusive answer. Someone claimed Sarans didn't win his group based on the head to head with Dimaga. This seems to be to the contrary to the standings on all sites. The more likely answer, that several people heard being said on the stream, were that the playoff match-ups was semi random. But I didn't see anyone know for sure how it worked, or maybe I just missed it.


Here's the scoring: http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season5/gamescom/sc2/groupstage/rankings/

TLO with his perfect 6-0 of course got first seed. Idra's performance of 6:2 is 2nd best so he got 2nd seed. Sarens got 5:3, and Dimaga got 4:4.


Acording to that "logic" TLO should be meeting the worst player, and Idra the 2nd worse, not Saren. There must be some seeding as IdrA is probably seeded as 1, and Saren as relativly unknown last. Still I can't see the logic here at all.


Here is one quote from another thread.

On August 20 2010 04:26 JoshSuth wrote:
Pretty sure they said the seeding was semi-random, with only the condition that two people from the same group cannot meet until Finals.


That's the only thing that makes sense to me as no seedings I've seen would explain the current match-ups.

The only thing that makes sense is that Dimaga got the first seed from his group, because of his head to head with Saren.


No that wouldn't make sense, because if the head to head is the tie breaker, Strelok would have advanced over demuslim no?

Edit: Naniwa did win over Strelok, so what I said above would not apply as it was a three way tie. So in that case you are right it seems like it would be the most logical scenario. Although that wouldn't explain why several people heard on the stream it was semi-random. Maybe they were talking about something else and people got confused.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
ChThoniC
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States536 Posts
August 19 2010 23:07 GMT
#2240
Does anyone know what maps will be used in tomorrow's matches?
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