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PanzerDragoon
Profile Joined March 2010
United States822 Posts
August 16 2010 01:11 GMT
#541
On August 16 2010 10:07 sur_ wrote:
How old is BigT? If he is an official caster he should act professional. I have no interest in watching him trying to get back on IdrA.

The irony of this statement when its used to defend Idra is absolutely hilarious.

Idra acts like a pissant child and deserves no respect, especially when he acts like this tournament officials.
Naught
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Denmark59 Posts
August 16 2010 01:12 GMT
#542
BigT delivers quality games, you can't deny that!
'Why kill Menkus!?' - MC
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-16 01:16:00
August 16 2010 01:13 GMT
#543
On August 16 2010 10:10 PanzerDragoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2010 10:05 motbob wrote:
On August 16 2010 10:03 PanzerDragoon wrote:
On August 16 2010 10:01 motbob wrote:
On August 16 2010 09:57 PanzerDragoon wrote:
On August 16 2010 09:42 Contagious wrote:
he's not really sticking it to BigT... he had to do it, because American Caster + Korean Player + American Player = laggy.

lmao do you really believe that

so how did he play in TSL then?

This post is kind of dumb. First of all, in the TSL, all spectators left the game if lag was an issue. Second of all, games in the TSL weren't casted live. Thirdly, Broodwar has less lag than SC2.

The games in TSL still had someone watching. "Stream" lag is a crutch that vintage whiners like Idra use.

And how do all the Koreans manage to play and not suffer from any of this lag, even when casted?

Your post quality is rapidly deteriorating. TSL games did not all, in fact, have someone watching. Koreans manage to play and not suffer from this lag because they are not playing games against each other from across the Pacific Ocean.

I meant when Koreans play in these cross regional events, is your critical thinking that poor?

Please provide me with an example of an intercontinental event (Korean ---> anywhere) that was casted live, not from replays, and did not experience lag issues.

You will find this exercise to be fruitless, and you will check various VODs of Tester in the Altitude invitational and the KotB tournament, only to find that those games were casted from replays. But this will not cause you to concede that you are wrong and I am right, oh no! Instead, you will insult my intelligence and make another factually wrong statement, which I will have to debunk.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
August 16 2010 01:16 GMT
#544
found a much better stream
http://www.teamliquid.net/video/userstream.php?user=BiggerT
telamascope
Profile Joined April 2010
United States310 Posts
August 16 2010 01:17 GMT
#545
Is there anywhere to view the brackets?

chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
August 16 2010 01:17 GMT
#546
biggerT's voice is like honey being poured into my ears
:O
scottyyy
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom796 Posts
August 16 2010 01:19 GMT
#547
hahaha Chill. This is hilarious.
PanzerDragoon
Profile Joined March 2010
United States822 Posts
August 16 2010 01:20 GMT
#548
On August 16 2010 10:13 motbob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2010 10:10 PanzerDragoon wrote:
On August 16 2010 10:05 motbob wrote:
On August 16 2010 10:03 PanzerDragoon wrote:
On August 16 2010 10:01 motbob wrote:
On August 16 2010 09:57 PanzerDragoon wrote:
On August 16 2010 09:42 Contagious wrote:
he's not really sticking it to BigT... he had to do it, because American Caster + Korean Player + American Player = laggy.

lmao do you really believe that

so how did he play in TSL then?

This post is kind of dumb. First of all, in the TSL, all spectators left the game if lag was an issue. Second of all, games in the TSL weren't casted live. Thirdly, Broodwar has less lag than SC2.

The games in TSL still had someone watching. "Stream" lag is a crutch that vintage whiners like Idra use.

And how do all the Koreans manage to play and not suffer from any of this lag, even when casted?

Your post quality is rapidly deteriorating. TSL games did not all, in fact, have someone watching. Koreans manage to play and not suffer from this lag because they are not playing games against each other from across the Pacific Ocean.

I meant when Koreans play in these cross regional events, is your critical thinking that poor?

Please provide me with an example of an intercontinental event (Korean ---> anywhere) that was casted live, not from replays, and did not experience lag issues.

You will find this exercise to be fruitless, and you will check various VODs of Tester in the Altitude invitational and the KotB tournament, only to find that those games were casted from replays. But this will not cause you to concede that you are wrong and I am right, oh no! Instead, you will insult my intelligence and make another factually wrong statement, which I will have to debunk.

You are acting like one streamer somehow greatly increases the lag to unplayable when they are already playing against a NA. Hint: it doesn't. Hes going to have lag if he plays against NA and 1 obs is not going to increase it in any perceptible manner. Tester also has obs


its worthless trying to argue with the Idra sycophants on this forum who think he's the greatest thing ever since he lives in Korea, lol
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
August 16 2010 01:23 GMT
#549
On August 16 2010 10:20 PanzerDragoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2010 10:13 motbob wrote:
On August 16 2010 10:10 PanzerDragoon wrote:
On August 16 2010 10:05 motbob wrote:
On August 16 2010 10:03 PanzerDragoon wrote:
On August 16 2010 10:01 motbob wrote:
On August 16 2010 09:57 PanzerDragoon wrote:
On August 16 2010 09:42 Contagious wrote:
he's not really sticking it to BigT... he had to do it, because American Caster + Korean Player + American Player = laggy.

lmao do you really believe that

so how did he play in TSL then?

This post is kind of dumb. First of all, in the TSL, all spectators left the game if lag was an issue. Second of all, games in the TSL weren't casted live. Thirdly, Broodwar has less lag than SC2.

The games in TSL still had someone watching. "Stream" lag is a crutch that vintage whiners like Idra use.

And how do all the Koreans manage to play and not suffer from any of this lag, even when casted?

Your post quality is rapidly deteriorating. TSL games did not all, in fact, have someone watching. Koreans manage to play and not suffer from this lag because they are not playing games against each other from across the Pacific Ocean.

I meant when Koreans play in these cross regional events, is your critical thinking that poor?

Please provide me with an example of an intercontinental event (Korean ---> anywhere) that was casted live, not from replays, and did not experience lag issues.

You will find this exercise to be fruitless, and you will check various VODs of Tester in the Altitude invitational and the KotB tournament, only to find that those games were casted from replays. But this will not cause you to concede that you are wrong and I am right, oh no! Instead, you will insult my intelligence and make another factually wrong statement, which I will have to debunk.

You are acting like one streamer somehow greatly increases the lag to unplayable when they are already playing against a NA. Hint: it doesn't. Hes going to have lag if he plays against NA and 1 obs is not going to increase it in any perceptible manner. Tester also has obs


its worthless trying to argue with the Idra sycophants on this forum who think he's the greatest thing ever since he lives in Korea, lol

The problem with Idra isn't the core of his arguments, but with the way he presents them. I think we can all understand his frustration with lag. He wouldn't have gotten those 2 penalty points though if he had handled that situation like an adult man.
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
August 16 2010 01:23 GMT
#550
On August 16 2010 10:20 PanzerDragoon wrote:
You are acting like one streamer somehow greatly increases the lag to unplayable when they are already playing against a NA. Hint: it doesn't. Hes going to have lag if he plays against NA and 1 obs is not going to increase it in any perceptible manner. Tester also has obs


its worthless trying to argue with the Idra sycophants on this forum who think he's the greatest thing ever since he lives in Korea, lol


Being a spec can increase the lag. Why the hell do you think we don't allow any in our events?
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
Shawngood
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany473 Posts
August 16 2010 01:23 GMT
#551
On August 16 2010 10:17 telamascope wrote:
Is there anywhere to view the brackets?

http://www.nationalesl.com/us/sc2/1on1/regular_season_cup_3/rankings/
@ESL_Shawn
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
August 16 2010 01:24 GMT
#552
Chill is my hero yet again!
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
August 16 2010 01:26 GMT
#553
On August 16 2010 10:20 PanzerDragoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2010 10:13 motbob wrote:
On August 16 2010 10:10 PanzerDragoon wrote:
On August 16 2010 10:05 motbob wrote:
On August 16 2010 10:03 PanzerDragoon wrote:
On August 16 2010 10:01 motbob wrote:
On August 16 2010 09:57 PanzerDragoon wrote:
On August 16 2010 09:42 Contagious wrote:
he's not really sticking it to BigT... he had to do it, because American Caster + Korean Player + American Player = laggy.

lmao do you really believe that

so how did he play in TSL then?

This post is kind of dumb. First of all, in the TSL, all spectators left the game if lag was an issue. Second of all, games in the TSL weren't casted live. Thirdly, Broodwar has less lag than SC2.

The games in TSL still had someone watching. "Stream" lag is a crutch that vintage whiners like Idra use.

And how do all the Koreans manage to play and not suffer from any of this lag, even when casted?

Your post quality is rapidly deteriorating. TSL games did not all, in fact, have someone watching. Koreans manage to play and not suffer from this lag because they are not playing games against each other from across the Pacific Ocean.

I meant when Koreans play in these cross regional events, is your critical thinking that poor?

Please provide me with an example of an intercontinental event (Korean ---> anywhere) that was casted live, not from replays, and did not experience lag issues.

You will find this exercise to be fruitless, and you will check various VODs of Tester in the Altitude invitational and the KotB tournament, only to find that those games were casted from replays. But this will not cause you to concede that you are wrong and I am right, oh no! Instead, you will insult my intelligence and make another factually wrong statement, which I will have to debunk.

You are acting like one streamer somehow greatly increases the lag to unplayable when they are already playing against a NA. Hint: it doesn't. Hes going to have lag if he plays against NA and 1 obs is not going to increase it in any perceptible manner. Tester also has obs


its worthless trying to argue with the Idra sycophants on this forum who think he's the greatest thing ever since he lives in Korea, lol

Looks like I was wrong; you didn't insult my intelligence. Instead, you accused me of being hopelessly biased after I proved that you were just making shit up. Have a nice day.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
yoshi_yoshi
Profile Joined January 2010
United States440 Posts
August 16 2010 01:26 GMT
#554
Looool BiggerT. I love TL.
InfoDav
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada46 Posts
August 16 2010 01:28 GMT
#555
American player latency: 25 ms
Korean player latency: 250 ms
American observer latency: 25 ms

Latency bottleneck without obs: 250 ms
Latency bottleneck with obs: 250 ms

From a general networking perspective, it doesn't make sense that it would change something unless there's peer to peer going on (with observers?).
rrowland
Profile Joined March 2010
United States84 Posts
August 16 2010 01:32 GMT
#556
There's actually a minimum latency that is far higher than 25ms. But Korea isn't 250ms, it can spike up to 1000ms.
Angryhorse
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden387 Posts
August 16 2010 01:34 GMT
#557
"Oh damn, biggerT in this mofo" ..cant breath..
Don't cry blood, the world doesn't revolve around you
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
August 16 2010 01:35 GMT
#558
"zerg is fucked" LOOOOOOOL chill has won
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
August 16 2010 01:36 GMT
#559
I haven't laughed this much since TLOwnage. Can I have babies with you Chill?
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
August 16 2010 01:39 GMT
#560
"Do not, DO NOT, uh, visit my biggest rival BigT, I'll be right back."
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