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DISHU
United Kingdom348 Posts
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teamsolid
Canada3668 Posts
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ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
On August 03 2010 09:29 comis wrote: You'd call what we just saw solid play? Colossi scouting 4tw? yeah he fucked up pretty badly this game but he played fine the other games | ||
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nihlon
Sweden5581 Posts
On August 03 2010 09:44 teamsolid wrote: So are there VODs or replays of Silver vs Idra? I want to see the rage for myself. I think he said he was making vods of them but I'm not sure were he'll put them up. | ||
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G2Wolf
United States261 Posts
On August 03 2010 09:44 teamsolid wrote: So are there VODs or replays of Silver vs Idra? I want to see the rage for myself. http://www.nationalesl.com/us/sc2/1on1/regular_season_cup_1/download/22422362/ | ||
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Nizaris
Belgium2230 Posts
On August 03 2010 01:22 Fayth wrote: slush doesn't seem to have any trouble with scouting, terran can't scout unless he gives up on 270 minerals and even then it's a gamble of a scout cuz u can hide buildings On August 03 2010 01:50 Fayth wrote: suiciding an overlord or 2 seems better than guessing, as costly as scans Scan doesn't cost minerals sigh. The minerals don't dissapear when you scan do they? | ||
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reza
Canada213 Posts
On August 03 2010 02:21 Graven wrote: LOL. I'm a Diamond player. My earlier response was sarcasm, directly attacking the intelligence behind your suggestion. However, it's clear by your response that you're not nearly as dumb as I initially thoguht, so I apologize. ROFL..idiot if you didn't notice I was being sarcastic as well. I too play diamond, so just relax there buddy. | ||
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Megalisk
United States6095 Posts
On August 03 2010 09:56 Nizaris wrote: Scan doesn't cost minerals sigh. The minerals don't dissapear when you scan do they? It prevents you from using a mule. | ||
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nath
United States1788 Posts
google "opportunity cost" then say that again. | ||
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Ruthless
United States492 Posts
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tacrats
476 Posts
On August 03 2010 08:40 Pandain wrote: 1.Go ask TLO and day9. He says TvZ is balanced. 1. TLO plays terran (biased). 2. day9 doesnt even play much sc2 | ||
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ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
On August 03 2010 11:03 tacrats wrote: 1. TLO plays terran (biased). 2. day9 doesnt even play much sc2 lol Idra plays zerg and says TvZ is imbalanced, not biased? | ||
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Unfurl
United States272 Posts
lings can't get in base Ovis get shot down by patrolling marines there's no way a Zerg can scout them (idk about toss) so how does Zerg prepare for everything with spreading themselves very thin in every category | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
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Deleted User 47542
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comis
United States333 Posts
On August 03 2010 11:59 itzbrandnew wrote: Am I the only one who saw Idra stomp a Terran in King of the Beta? (Hope this isn't considered too much of a spoiler) TLO and friends seem like they try to out-pro the race. They do stuff like space out tanks, try to harrass, etc etc. Players like Silver just build 3-4 of any random unit and a-move to win. | ||
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ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
On August 03 2010 12:27 comis wrote: TLO and friends seem like they try to out-pro the race. They do stuff like space out tanks, try to harrass, etc etc. Players like Silver just build 3-4 of any random unit and a-move to win. what the hell.... silver didn't just build any random unit and attack moved, he was reacting very well to what his opponent was doing and he was harassing in the mean time, you really think he has a very good winrate in the ladder and beats idra qxc and huk by just spamming units and attack move? | ||
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Deleted User 47542
1484 Posts
He abused LT really well vs Idra by doing that roachproof walloff while getting a fast medivac which was smart play. Idra lost the first game, 100% his fault. The second game can be seen as T abusing the map, but all zergs should account for this possibility, I mean this maps only been out for like 12 years now. I normally love Idras bm, but this time it was uncalled for, Silver didn't even provoke anything, or do something super cheesy or all-in, yet he just lashed out on him -_- | ||
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naventus
United States1339 Posts
Idra gets to lair relatively early, doesn't get overlord speed or overseer, though it would have come in time to see armory/thor push, and react in time. In this scenario, I don't buy the "zerg can't scout in time argument". Mutas are used well to delay push, but second wave of gas goes into more muta, instead of infestor. There's no reason terran should be allowed to push out with a small army like that, especially if 2-3 of the thors can be NPed. Idra vs Silver game 2: Lair is complete just a tiny bit before medivac is ready to go, so we can see Z scouting would in fact be too late for this sort of build. But it is in time to catch the medivac go out. Other clues would have been lack of hellion, but upgrade going on the tech lab. Seems like could be punished by sacrificing lings for the lab. Time is 7m, turbo newb going out, but Z can delay a bit with the sunkens. Should be enough time to get mutas if that were placed at Lair, but no spire down, instead roach upgrades going on. Instead of reacting properly, Idra is on tilt, and just tries to all in with roach (vs siege tank????). -- In both of these games, there were plenty of ways to have spotted and reacted to the builds. In response to Idra's BM despite mediocre and inconsistent play, I can't wait until the korean scene marginalizes him. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
On August 03 2010 11:03 tacrats wrote: 1. TLO plays terran (biased). 2. day9 doesnt even play much sc2 tlo plays tvz and zvt that's like as unbiased as you can get | ||
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