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Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
August 02 2010 23:50 GMT
#221
I'm gonna have to side with Pandain as a zerg thinking TvZ isn't too imbalanced (at least I think Pandain's zerg, he was when I met him on the ladder a long time ago). You do kinda have to delay until hive if you want to avoid the whole dying thing. Which is not imbalanced, zerg had to delay their ass off for hive in BW because the bio ball was too crazy after vessels came out to beat without defilers. But I'm pretty sure thats not the real point of this argument.

I believe the problem at hand is the zerg's inability to scout terran early on and I fully agree with other people that this is a legit problem. Yes, bad people will leave their tech in sight of a ling running up a ramp, good people will not. Sacrificing and ovie isn't always useful if terran's on the ball (surrounded base with depots or whatever so the marines can kill the ovie quick times). And frankly, zerg cannot account for everything terran can do.

Let's assume for a second that roaches "hard counter" hellions and reapers (which may or may not be true) and also do well against marines. So you manage to scout that there's no marauders so you figure its probably a marine/hellion push. You make roaches to deal with this but it turns out he went banshees. Your lair got delayed by the roaches and now you're dead. If you try to go fast lair and it turns out they did a big marine/hellion attack, you're also dead. And really, there's just no good way to see exactly what Terran's up to until lair if they're really on the ball.

Just my two cents.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23442 Posts
August 02 2010 23:59 GMT
#222
The whole argument was that zerg can't scout early on and that's what the last what 5 pages of it was about? :D
dafunk
Profile Joined January 2009
France521 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-03 00:12:38
August 03 2010 00:03 GMT
#223
On August 02 2010 12:47 IdrA wrote:
of course he plays terran
hes a nobody with no skill in the top 4 of a tournament, what else would he play


How old are you seriously ?
Grow up man... Guess you have to learn what respect is. Its something pretty important if you intend to develop "esport" (theres SPORT in it, see ? like fairplay).

Its one thing to talk about imbalance, its another to trash talk and act like a 7 year old kid.

What I saw tonight was a really capable Terran that played it well against HuK.
Congrats to him, being down 1 base and still winning was cool to see !
Lazix
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia378 Posts
August 03 2010 00:10 GMT
#224
Commentator isn't a Terran player by any chance? So much Void Ray QQ and IdrA bashing...
holy_war
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States3590 Posts
August 03 2010 00:11 GMT
#225
Wow, this commentator is pretty clueless...
Zeromadcowz
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada241 Posts
August 03 2010 00:12 GMT
#226
how did huk lose that
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
August 03 2010 00:12 GMT
#227
On August 03 2010 09:12 Zeromadcowz wrote:
how did huk lose that


Did he have a mining expo after the gold got taken out?
Banelings are too cute to blow up
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4758 Posts
August 03 2010 00:13 GMT
#228
What a fun game 5. Altough I don't think Huk should have lost that.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
Belegorm
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States330 Posts
August 03 2010 00:13 GMT
#229
Ah man that last game was nuts... kind of like silver vs qxc
MUM GIVE ME SOME SCISSORS!!!
dragonblade369
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada464 Posts
August 03 2010 00:13 GMT
#230
The commentator seems completely biased during the finals :S
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
August 03 2010 00:13 GMT
#231
wow
that was an extreme end to the tournament.

gj silver!
Zeromadcowz
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada241 Posts
August 03 2010 00:16 GMT
#232
On August 03 2010 09:12 nihlon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2010 09:12 Zeromadcowz wrote:
how did huk lose that


Did he have a mining expo after the gold got taken out?

im saying he threw away the game that he had control of, not that he shouldn't have left at the position he did
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
August 03 2010 00:16 GMT
#233
As much as people rag on desert oasis, it often brings some very entertaining games.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
Lyter
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2145 Posts
August 03 2010 00:17 GMT
#234
the commentator makes me rage so hard lols
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-03 00:25:24
August 03 2010 00:18 GMT
#235
On August 03 2010 09:16 Zeromadcowz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2010 09:12 nihlon wrote:
On August 03 2010 09:12 Zeromadcowz wrote:
how did huk lose that


Did he have a mining expo after the gold got taken out?

im saying he threw away the game that he had control of, not that he shouldn't have left at the position he did


Ah I get you. He certainly had opportunities there to end the game but Silver played very well. Hopefully they'll release the replays.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
FindingPride
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1001 Posts
August 03 2010 00:19 GMT
#236
will there be reps?
vyyye
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden3917 Posts
August 03 2010 00:20 GMT
#237
On August 03 2010 09:16 nihlon wrote:
As much as people rag on desert oasis, it often brings some very entertaining games.

Definitely, it's awful to play but damn, some of the most entertaining games I've seen are on Desert Oasis. This Silver fella is a surprise as well, beats IdrA fair and square 2-0, and excells in the rest of the games as well. Great job in this tourney.
ithree
Profile Joined January 2010
443 Posts
August 03 2010 00:20 GMT
#238
Can Silver play series that don't end up WTF ?

But seriously propz to Silver, you will not longer be just 'The Idra Killa', enjoy the rest of the tourny and your $100

and gg to Huk, proving once again how solid he is, even on an off day. (sacrificial coloxen )
comis
Profile Joined April 2010
United States333 Posts
August 03 2010 00:29 GMT
#239
On August 03 2010 09:20 ithree wrote:
Can Silver play series that don't end up WTF ?

But seriously propz to Silver, you will not longer be just 'The Idra Killa', enjoy the rest of the tourny and your $100

and gg to Huk, proving once again how solid he is, even on an off day. (sacrificial coloxen )


You'd call what we just saw solid play? Colossi scouting 4tw?
Silver~Guy
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada45 Posts
August 03 2010 00:30 GMT
#240
Thanks for hosting the tournament ESL, it was nerve racking and fun!
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