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Maybe Tester understood it as the winner of each game sends the replay and expected HuK to send the replay of his win.
Anyway, can't wait to see tonight's matches, if qxc manages to beat dimaga then it'll make things a lot more interesting in group A.
question: Is TLO playing random or terran in this tourney? He was terran each game against huk but the OP lists him as playing random.
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On July 23 2010 01:22 Roffles wrote: I'm pretty convinced that if someone goes 2-0 in a Bo3, then the third game won't be played simply because it's pointless to do so.
The remaining games in group play are always played in case a tie happens, than they are able to go by rounds won. But yes, miscommunication could have occur.
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Even though Day[9] commentaries are awesome, I find it much more entertaining when there is two commentators. I've just rewatched some games from the Altitude TL Invitational and i realised how Chill and Day[9] make a really great duo.
So please Sean, get Chill on ur casts more often, pleeeease! :D
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On July 23 2010 01:16 DC Elite wrote: I still completely stand by my theory, most pros would know to submit all 3 replays if game 3 was in fact the rubber match. It makes more logical sense than a game 1 or 2 Huk victory, use your head. Notice the lack of details Huk didnt provide when he said he won a game. Wouldnt it have been easy for him to say, I won game 1/2? Hes not even piping in on the conversation to put this all to rest.
Back on topic, however, i'm excited to see TLO play Tester now. Will Tester play his hardest since he is already likely to move on? This set could be the best in the round robin portion.
This. If the HuK who posted is indeed the real HuK, then I certainly have lost respect for him.
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I think TLO plays as terran. And would really love to see him in finals.
good day, svizcy
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On July 23 2010 01:16 DC Elite wrote: most pros would know to submit all 3 replays Man, there could have been a technical mistake - eg: one file didn't attach etc. In a big tournament with international correspondence and language barriers, such accidents are pretty likely to happen. We don't know; why not just wait and see. The issue will certainly be clarified eventually.
On July 23 2010 01:33 Svizcy wrote: I think TLO plays as terran. It has not been confirmed that he is going to play fixed Terran throughout the whole tournament; he is very likely to switch, and as traditionally Random player (incl. on battle.net Phase 2), it's the safest to categorize his race as Random, for now. (that still applies even in case he plays T in both next matches, which remains to be seen)
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On July 23 2010 01:22 Roffles wrote:
Tester easily could have misunderstood the rules and simply submitted the two games he won, thinking that it didn't matter if he submitted the one he lost because well, he won the series. Miscommunication could have occurred, as well as a lot of other things, but if I were a betting man, I would never put my money on Huk's win as a meaningless Game 3.
Maybe, but if you just played 2 quick games and one person simply says, lets play the 3rd anyways, most people would agree to it just for the experience.
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If he didn't know the round robin was casted from the replays, he had no reason to submit the replay of a loss, 2 wins is "proof" enough.
I really hope mr. day chimes in on this soon even if it's just to say he's investigating. I would really really love to see that game.
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In a tourney? When have you ever seen the third set in a Bo3 be played after someone goes 2-0? I can count the number of times I've seen that happen on my fists...
Nvm, game scores do matter. Just doesn't matter in Huk's 0-3 case.
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On July 23 2010 01:22 ChaosFury wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2010 01:11 Piski wrote:On July 23 2010 01:08 ChaosFury wrote: HuK claims to have won a game against Tester; however, due to his piss-poor attitude and self-pity, I am not only annoyed, but almost inclined to think that perhaps no such win exists. At the very least, I do hope Day[9] sees these posts, and looks into things. Wait. HuK's piss-poor attitude? When did he had a piss-poor attitude towards anything? He just pointed out that the series went 2-1 and not 2-0 which is a good thing to point out. With 4 posts I wouldn't claim that one of the best USA players is a liar. "if sean really wants me to i will, i dont see point tho even if i win ill probably still get bashed for something" HuK's post is full of self-pity. I would consider this a piss-poor attitude. This is not the attitude of a true winner. But I suppose I know nothing, because I don't post regulary on TL.net. Therefore (supposedly), I have zero worth and zero credibility. I admire your logic.
My logic is that if you can't come up anything better than just accuse people of lying, maybe you should post even less regulary.
This. If the HuK who posted is indeed the real HuK, then I certainly have lost respect for him.
It's the real HuK.
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On July 23 2010 01:34 DC Elite wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2010 01:22 Roffles wrote:
Tester easily could have misunderstood the rules and simply submitted the two games he won, thinking that it didn't matter if he submitted the one he lost because well, he won the series. Miscommunication could have occurred, as well as a lot of other things, but if I were a betting man, I would never put my money on Huk's win as a meaningless Game 3. Maybe, but if you just played 2 quick games and one person simply says, lets play the 3rd anyways, most people would agree to it just for the experience.
You have obviously never played a tournament before. Let me tell you how many times this has happened in the ITC or ITL
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On July 23 2010 01:19 papaz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2010 01:16 DC Elite wrote: Back on topic, however, i'm excited to see TLO play Tester now. Will Tester play his hardest since he is already likely to move on? This set could be the best in the round robin portion. TLO the last hope of the world vs south korea. I am too excited, hope he beats Tester. Man if South Korea goes to win this without losing to anyone but their own players 
I think he doesn't have a chance (well, guess he didn't have a chance ). TLO vs. IdrA will be the interesting match, because the winner will most likely advance.
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Dimaga/IntoTheRainbow TheLittleOne/Tester
my guess
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On July 23 2010 01:16 DC Elite wrote: I still completely stand by my theory, most pros would know to submit all 3 replays if game 3 was in fact the rubber match. It makes more logical sense than a game 1 or 2 Huk victory, use your head. Notice the lack of details Huk didnt provide when he said he won a game. Wouldnt it have been easy for him to say, I won game 1/2? Hes not even piping in on the conversation to put this all to rest.
Back on topic, however, i'm excited to see TLO play Tester now. Will Tester play his hardest since he is already likely to move on? This set could be the best in the round robin portion.
There's really nothing wrong with you standing by your theory. The biggest issue with your first post (and the reason you were called out on it) is because you stated it like it was fact. Of course, I personally don't believe it was the third game that Huk won because, well, it doesn't really make any sense that they would have even played a third game. It's much more likely that Tester thought that you were supposed to only hand in the replays of the games that you won instead of all the replays of the match that you won.
Sure it would have been easy for him to say that he won game 1 or 2, but why would he have had to? It wasn't an important question until you tried to make it so. And sure he isn't back in the conversation but it's like 12 hours later. I'm at work and it's not a far stretch to say he is too (or, you know, just "out").
Edit: Oh, and grats to you for getting me to finally post something. I really wish it was something a bit more constructive, but...
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Yeah HuK is no match for Tester.
The amount of creativity Tester showed us in this tournament was insane. Double cybernetics with chronoboost on the idle one is a stroke of genius. Tester also proved that 4 gate at the highest levels is for ladder whores.
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It's not just the wins, but i'm finding the way they're winning to be great (tester in ITR). They switch things up, they're aggressive in their play, it's so fun to watch. TLO is that way too, which is why he's one of my favs.
But it just goes to show you, it's less about the tactics or units, it's about the guy ordering the stuff around.
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On July 23 2010 01:55 ashaman771 wrote: It's not just the wins, but i'm finding the way they're winning to be great (tester in ITR). They switch things up, they're aggressive in their play, it's so fun to watch. TLO is that way too, which is why he's one of my favs.
But it just goes to show you, it's less about the tactics or units, it's about the guy ordering the stuff around. Which is what made Brood War so damn good. There were great tactics that everyone used, but the guy controlling the units made each game special. The control by some of these players is just so good.
Ever since I saw Tester play in the TL Invitational, I've become more and more impressed with the wide array of tactics that's been demonstrated by these guys. From the Fact lift in base to the double hellion harass, that type of play is just remarkable to watch.
And when I think about it, we're only talking about washed up progamers who were never really top tier at BW. Just mediocre BW players back in their ages. Imagine SC2 in the hands of the 400 APM Jaedong or Flash. The possibilities are endless.
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On July 23 2010 01:38 Piski wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2010 01:22 ChaosFury wrote:On July 23 2010 01:11 Piski wrote:On July 23 2010 01:08 ChaosFury wrote: HuK claims to have won a game against Tester; however, due to his piss-poor attitude and self-pity, I am not only annoyed, but almost inclined to think that perhaps no such win exists. At the very least, I do hope Day[9] sees these posts, and looks into things. Wait. HuK's piss-poor attitude? When did he had a piss-poor attitude towards anything? He just pointed out that the series went 2-1 and not 2-0 which is a good thing to point out. With 4 posts I wouldn't claim that one of the best USA players is a liar. "if sean really wants me to i will, i dont see point tho even if i win ill probably still get bashed for something" HuK's post is full of self-pity. I would consider this a piss-poor attitude. This is not the attitude of a true winner. But I suppose I know nothing, because I don't post regulary on TL.net. Therefore (supposedly), I have zero worth and zero credibility. I admire your logic. My logic is that if you can't come up anything better than just accuse people of lying, maybe you should post even less regulary. Show nested quote +This. If the HuK who posted is indeed the real HuK, then I certainly have lost respect for him. It's the real HuK.
And my logic is that I do not accept something as true until solid evidence or proof has been presented. Unfortunately, HuK's word alone, is not evidence enough. But you may continue to blindly accept what others say as fact, in the ignorant fashion you have been.
User was warned for this post
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On July 23 2010 02:01 ChaosFury wrote: And my logic is that I do not accept something as true until solid evidence or proof has been presented. Unfortunately, HuK's word alone, is not evidence enough. But you may continue to blindly accept what others say as fact, in the ignorant fashion you have been.
HuK stands to lose a lot more than he gains by lying about this. I have tons of experience with HuK, and he may be a pain in the ass sometimes but he has never once lied to me about anything.
I believe him. Why on earth would he even bother lying about this?
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Well if he beats tester he gets a point right ?
so tester ought to send this and if its true day9 should give a point to huk , just for bragging rights cause regardless if huk lost and be regarded as inferior player to tester overall , he deserve this.
I still believe that the final will be TvT for obvious reasons . .
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