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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23362 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-08 21:27:17
May 08 2010 21:25 GMT
#221
On May 09 2010 06:19 DeMusliM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2010 06:13 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
If you disc and your opponent has as much as a 1% chance it's a regame. It's you who discs and who's at fault plenty of systems give you a loss for that. If the rule would be any different it would allow people to gain advantages and disconnect after with no chance of a comeback for their opponents.


Right, completely agree with you although obviously it is frustrating, i've had games for example where i've been 50 food vs 80+ with 1 base vs 3 and won, i mean it's not clear cut.
I also believe that it depends alot actually on who discs - if i'm REALLY far ahead, and my oppo discs - i'm likely as an admin to be less likely to regame it, rather than the guy in the lead discing.
This has happened at several tournaments before, and 1 particular moment i remember was Grubby vs Zeus at ESWC 2006 for wc3, grubby had the advantage the PC's crashed, admins declared regame as it wasn't over - grubby got so angry and almost walked out. In General i think if you play a straight up macro vs macro game and your winning you should take the regame to just again proove that you are indeed better and more consistent, and technically "win again".

Although after saying all that - i'd like to see the game just so i could actually see what went on, badluck for Artosis.

Edit: wrote this before i found out they regamed - thought he got DQ'd.


That game on metalopis a while back vs dimaga 1 base vs 3 base most people would call it game over for example.
DeMusliM
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom401 Posts
May 08 2010 21:28 GMT
#222
Right, which was the point i was trying to make, if i got Defwinned against if i disced at that point, i woulda been pissed - so i can see it from Slush's position too.
Crissaegrim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
2947 Posts
May 08 2010 21:29 GMT
#223
Huk not smashing tonight. No more protosses in the running =(.
condoriano
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States826 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-08 21:31:17
May 08 2010 21:30 GMT
#224
On May 09 2010 06:25 KwarK wrote:
Artosis deserves no props. He delayed the tournament for a long time by arguing with the refs. Refs spent a long time watching the rep and debating, it's not like they didn't consider his case. You can't argue with the refs and he ignored ultimatums and got himself disqualified. It was only after he was disqualified by Plexa he realised he wasn't going to win this argument and gave in. It sucks for Artosis but ref decisions must be respected.


If what you described was correct I would just walk away without regaming, because playing someone low enough to not agree to take a loss and then getting cheesed is no fun.

Refs could be right, still I understand how Artosis feels. I'm giving him props for regaming, nothing will change here. You didn't have the best reputation as a player either, "artosis deserves no props" means nothing.

Key problem for me is slush not accepting a loss where he knows better as a player that he lost fair and square. Admins had to take his side because of the disconnect, but that doesn't make him less of a villain.
Ridentem dicere verum quid vetat?
Nouar
Profile Joined May 2009
France3270 Posts
May 08 2010 21:31 GMT
#225
OF COURSE if the guy who disconnects had an advantage, he won't be given a freewin it's *always* a regame...
If it's the guy losing who disconnets, then you might talk about defwin... I don't get why there's whining going on...
NoiR
Inspyr
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia41 Posts
May 08 2010 21:32 GMT
#226
it was a fault of his own, how can he not accept a rematch? It's not like they will give artosis the win simply because he was "ahead" if Slush disconnected... fair enough but artosis did.

man up artosis.
Within the perfect architecture of thought, Logic may often provide the structure -- but from emotion came the inspiration.
TieN.nS)
Profile Joined August 2003
United States2131 Posts
May 08 2010 21:32 GMT
#227
You're giving him props for regaming when he refused to and only did so because he would have been disqualified otherwise? lol.
XtrEEmMaShEEN3k2
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States122 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-08 21:33:35
May 08 2010 21:32 GMT
#228
+ Show Spoiler +
From the beginning, I was sad Nony lost early. I wanted to see a lot of cool Phoenix play.

Really rooting for Cauthonluck, I'm a Terran mainer, so I always cheer for Terran players.
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
May 08 2010 21:34 GMT
#229
Nooooooo Chill/Djwheat/Day9 trio was so epic.
Full.tilt
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom1709 Posts
May 08 2010 21:37 GMT
#230
On May 09 2010 06 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting              09 2010 06      end_of_the_skype_highlighting:30 condoriano wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2010 06:25 KwarK wrote:
Artosis deserves no props. He delayed the tournament for a long time by arguing with the refs. Refs spent a long time watching the rep and debating, it's not like they didn't consider his case. You can't argue with the refs and he ignored ultimatums and got himself disqualified. It was only after he was disqualified by Plexa he realised he wasn't going to win this argument and gave in. It sucks for Artosis but ref decisions must be respected.


If what you described was correct I would just walk away without regaming, because playing someone low enough to not agree to take a loss and then getting cheesed is no fun.

Refs could be right, still I understand how Artosis feels. I'm giving him props for regaming, nothing will change here. You didn't have the best reputation as a player either, "artosis deserves no props" means nothing.

Key problem for me is slush not accepting a loss where he knows better as a player that he lost fair and square. Admins had to take his side because of the disconnect, but that doesn't make him less of a villain.


Yep well done for replaying after he had been told he'd be DQ'ed? You only accept you lose when you gg or disconnect, surely that's how it's always been? (Rhetorical question of course)
KazKamasa
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden186 Posts
May 08 2010 21:38 GMT
#231
good game =D
"time line? time is not made out of lines it is made out of circles, that is why clocks are round"- Caboose
kruder
Profile Joined February 2010
Romania36 Posts
May 08 2010 21:38 GMT
#232
Artosis was in huge advantage..its very frustrating to rematch even if you DC...i think Slush here was BM and didnt recognize his defeat. On the other side Cauthonluck is playing such a solid terran very entertaining
Jakalo
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Latvia2350 Posts
May 08 2010 21:39 GMT
#233
Really enjoying comentary, thank you guys
Nostalgia is not as good as it used to be.
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
May 08 2010 21:39 GMT
#234
On May 09 2010 06:21 condoriano wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2010 06:16 KwarK wrote:
Lmao Artosis is like an inadequate clone of Idra. Similar but worse style of play, and bad bad manners. Honestly, who disconnects and then claims victory... epic fail

If you watch the rep you can see why he'd claim it. Slush lost a big battle and three of his five bases. He was down to a single mining base and Artosis' army was at it. Slush's army was largely 1-0 mutalisks while Artosis had a fair number of 3-2 hydralisks attacking it.
It wasn't like he didn't have a case. In my opinion the key problem is that he disconnected rather than a neutral disconnect.


LOL

I agree with the admin decision, but this says a lot about slush, he could have just accepted the loss since he had a chance to watch replay. Props to artosis for regaming, admins did what they had to do, slush is someone i will always cheer against from now on lol

edit: and he 9 pools the regame, damn. Feel bad for Dan, 5 am and he has to deal with this.

we can see you're not biased at all ^_^
drug_vict1m
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
844 Posts
May 08 2010 21:43 GMT
#235
im sorry but i just tuned in and could you plz tell me which one is played first:
the finals or the third place match?
One must feel chaos within, to give birth to a dancing star.
Islandsnake
Profile Joined April 2009
United States679 Posts
May 08 2010 21:43 GMT
#236
Nuuuuu commentary trio was epic ><
Bang!
Squeegy
Profile Joined October 2009
Finland1166 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-08 21:49:23
May 08 2010 21:46 GMT
#237
I think Artosis whining is completely justified. That doesn't mean the admins didn't make the right call. Sometimes there simply isn't a fair solution. Random people attacking Artosis for this is really dumb though. Imagine yourself in his shoes, you'd be tilting so bad. I hope people will at least give him the credit of being a very good player, as I think he certainly proved it today (if he hadn't in the past).
Stan: Dude, dolphins are intelligent and friendly. Cartman: Intelligent and friendly on rye bread with some mayonnaise.
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
May 08 2010 21:46 GMT
#238
This kind of reminds me of the OSL power outage in a way... where they def winned to JD when the result seemed nowhere near as clear cut as this case. But in that case, it was neither of the player's fault. Either way this is a shitty situation in general.
condoriano
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States826 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-08 21:47:24
May 08 2010 21:46 GMT
#239
ahahha show him louder, first time I'm cheering for the old man

plz 2-0
Ridentem dicere verum quid vetat?
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
May 08 2010 21:48 GMT
#240
Spore crawlers are awful.
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