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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44194 Posts
May 08 2010 21:13 GMT
#201
On May 09 2010 06:11 SHr3DD3r wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2010 06:10 rufi83 wrote:
Artosis has been disqualified since he has failed to cooperate with the referees. We appreciate that he had an advantage in the game but we felt that Slush did have a legitimate chance to stage a comeback. Since Artosis was at fault in the game (he disconntected), we decided a regame was in order. This decision was made in accordance withe regulations we outlined for TSL.

It is unfortunate that Artosis had to act the way he did, but we wish him all the best for the future and we are sorely disappointed he had to be eliminated this way.


As unfortunate as this is, props to tourney admins to sticking to their guns and having their word be final, not the players.

I totally agree with this.

Yeah, I've seen the rep and thought Artosis had it but given he disconnected a regame is a legitimate decision. With that in mind Artosis' whining is unacceptable.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
UltraVires
Profile Joined April 2010
United States241 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-08 21:26:18
May 08 2010 21:14 GMT
#202
On May 09 2010 06:08 Plexa wrote:
Artosis has been disqualified since he has failed to cooperate with the referees. We appreciate that he had an advantage in the game but we felt that Slush did have a legitimate chance to stage a comeback. Since Artosis was at fault in the game (he disconntected), we decided a regame was in order. This decision was made in accordance withe regulations we outlined for TSL.

It is unfortunate that Artosis had to act the way he did, but we wish him all the best for the future and we are sorely disappointed he had to be eliminated this way.


Lmao Artosis is like an inadequate clone of Idra. Similar but worse style of play, and bad bad manners. Honestly, who disconnects and then claims victory...

In other news, I'm loving Huk v. Cauthon right now. Hoping for Huk to come back for at least a game 3!

Edit: No... Huk!!! I'll be rooting for you in 3/4 decider.
Elric
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom1327 Posts
May 08 2010 21:14 GMT
#203
Good call TL admins.
Islandsnake
Profile Joined April 2009
United States679 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-08 21:15:54
May 08 2010 21:14 GMT
#204
Theres so many delays(not that its a issue at all ofc) but I could care less with the commentary haha good job keeping it interesting guys ^_^

Djwheat + Chill + day9 is pretty awesome
Bang!
finalboss
Profile Joined May 2010
United States39 Posts
May 08 2010 21:15 GMT
#205
On May 09 2010 06:13 PanzerDragoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2010 06:08 Plexa wrote:
Artosis has been disqualified since he has failed to cooperate with the referees. We appreciate that he had an advantage in the game but we felt that Slush did have a legitimate chance to stage a comeback. Since Artosis was at fault in the game (he disconntected), we decided a regame was in order. This decision was made in accordance withe regulations we outlined for TSL.

It is unfortunate that Artosis had to act the way he did, but we wish him all the best for the future and we are sorely disappointed he had to be eliminated this way.

Thank god mods didn't bend to e-fame and enforced the rules evenly

+1
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-08 21:23:11
May 08 2010 21:15 GMT
#206

KTY
Gont
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany239 Posts
May 08 2010 21:15 GMT
#207
i think we shouldnt judge artosis until we saw the replay...

but atleast i think it is stupid to take default lose instead of regame
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
May 08 2010 21:15 GMT
#208
In Artosis' defense, it's past 5 am in Korea atm. Having to replay a game he thinks was won when he's already been up all night must've been hard to take. Still disappointing though.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44194 Posts
May 08 2010 21:16 GMT
#209
On May 09 2010 06:14 UltraVires wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2010 06:08 Plexa wrote:
Artosis has been disqualified since he has failed to cooperate with the referees. We appreciate that he had an advantage in the game but we felt that Slush did have a legitimate chance to stage a comeback. Since Artosis was at fault in the game (he disconntected), we decided a regame was in order. This decision was made in accordance withe regulations we outlined for TSL.

It is unfortunate that Artosis had to act the way he did, but we wish him all the best for the future and we are sorely disappointed he had to be eliminated this way.


Lmao Artosis is like an inadequate clone of Idra. Similar but worse style of play, and bad bad manners. Honestly, who disconnects and then claims victory... epic fail

If you watch the rep you can see why he'd claim it. Slush lost a big battle and three of his five bases. He was down to a single mining base and Artosis' army was at it. Slush's army was largely 1-0 mutalisks while Artosis had a fair number of 3-2 hydralisks attacking it.
It wasn't like he didn't have a case. In my opinion the key problem is that he disconnected rather than a neutral disconnect.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 08 2010 21:17 GMT
#210
UPDATE:
Artosis decided to play the regame afterall.

+ Show Spoiler +
Slush won
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Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
May 08 2010 21:17 GMT
#211
According to Kennigit, they regamed and Slush won.
Inspyr
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia41 Posts
May 08 2010 21:18 GMT
#212
9pool vs FE, SMASHttttttttttttt
Within the perfect architecture of thought, Logic may often provide the structure -- but from emotion came the inspiration.
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
May 08 2010 21:18 GMT
#213
On May 09 2010 06:17 Plexa wrote:
UPDATE:
Artosis decided to play the regame afterall.

+ Show Spoiler +
Slush won


+ Show Spoiler +
Yeah Artosis FE:d against Slushs 9 pool. GG
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
May 08 2010 21:19 GMT
#214
Gotta feel bad for Artosis, given the ungodly hour in his timezone, combined with the unfortunate technical problems that seemed to be plaguing him in this tourney.
DeMusliM
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom401 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-08 21:20:46
May 08 2010 21:19 GMT
#215
On May 09 2010 06:13 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
If you disc and your opponent has as much as a 1% chance it's a regame. It's you who discs and who's at fault plenty of systems give you a loss for that. If the rule would be any different it would allow people to gain advantages and disconnect after with no chance of a comeback for their opponents.


Right, completely agree with you although obviously it is frustrating, i've had games for example where i've been 50 food vs 80+ with 1 base vs 3 and won, i mean it's not clear cut.
I also believe that it depends alot actually on who discs - if i'm REALLY far ahead, and my oppo discs - i'm likely as an admin to be less likely to regame it, rather than the guy in the lead discing.
This has happened at several tournaments before, and 1 particular moment i remember was Grubby vs Zeus at ESWC 2006 for wc3, grubby had the advantage the PC's crashed, admins declared regame as it wasn't over - grubby got so angry and almost walked out. In General i think if you play a straight up macro vs macro game and your winning you should take the regame to just again proove that you are indeed better and more consistent, and technically "win again".

Although after saying all that - i'd like to see the game just so i could actually see what went on, badluck for Artosis.

Edit: wrote this before i found out they regamed - thought he got DQ'd.
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
May 08 2010 21:20 GMT
#216
On May 09 2010 06:16 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2010 06:14 UltraVires wrote:
On May 09 2010 06:08 Plexa wrote:
Artosis has been disqualified since he has failed to cooperate with the referees. We appreciate that he had an advantage in the game but we felt that Slush did have a legitimate chance to stage a comeback. Since Artosis was at fault in the game (he disconntected), we decided a regame was in order. This decision was made in accordance withe regulations we outlined for TSL.

It is unfortunate that Artosis had to act the way he did, but we wish him all the best for the future and we are sorely disappointed he had to be eliminated this way.


Lmao Artosis is like an inadequate clone of Idra. Similar but worse style of play, and bad bad manners. Honestly, who disconnects and then claims victory... epic fail

If you watch the rep you can see why he'd claim it. Slush lost a big battle and three of his five bases. He was down to a single mining base and Artosis' army was at it. Slush's army was largely 1-0 mutalisks while Artosis had a fair number of 3-2 hydralisks attacking it.
It wasn't like he didn't have a case. In my opinion the key problem is that he disconnected rather than a neutral disconnect.

Wow... that really sucks for Artosis... that's like 99.9999% won. I don't know any player who wouldn't be really pissed off that they had to regame.
condoriano
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States826 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-08 21:23:40
May 08 2010 21:21 GMT
#217
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2010 06:16 KwarK wrote:
Lmao Artosis is like an inadequate clone of Idra. Similar but worse style of play, and bad bad manners. Honestly, who disconnects and then claims victory... epic fail

If you watch the rep you can see why he'd claim it. Slush lost a big battle and three of his five bases. He was down to a single mining base and Artosis' army was at it. Slush's army was largely 1-0 mutalisks while Artosis had a fair number of 3-2 hydralisks attacking it.
It wasn't like he didn't have a case. In my opinion the key problem is that he disconnected rather than a neutral disconnect.


LOL

I agree with the admin decision, but this says a lot about slush, he could have just accepted the loss since he had a chance to watch replay. Props to artosis for regaming, admins did what they had to do, slush is someone i will always cheer against from now on lol

edit: and he 9 pools the regame, damn. Feel bad for Dan, 5 am and he has to deal with this.
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I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-08 21:25:55
May 08 2010 21:21 GMT
#218
Unfortunate. Not picking sides; just an unfortunate situation. Technical problems have no winners.

As a random story; the worst technical error that comes to mind was in MLG (Halo3) last year. The favorites to win the tournament were literally 1-2 second away from winning a series and advancing to the Semi finals (maybe finals) when the xbox crashed. MLG rules stated that regardless of score/situation it is always a regame. The team that was 1 second away from winning then lost the next 2 games and then lost in the losers bracket to be eliminated from the tournament.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
heishe
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany2284 Posts
May 08 2010 21:24 GMT
#219
yes but they do have losers. in this case 2. artosis whining and slish slush whatever not accepting his loss like a man.
If you value your soul, never look into the eye of a horse. Your soul will forever be lost in the void of the horse.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44194 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-08 21:26:58
May 08 2010 21:25 GMT
#220
On May 09 2010 06:21 condoriano wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2010 06:16 KwarK wrote:
Lmao Artosis is like an inadequate clone of Idra. Similar but worse style of play, and bad bad manners. Honestly, who disconnects and then claims victory... epic fail

If you watch the rep you can see why he'd claim it. Slush lost a big battle and three of his five bases. He was down to a single mining base and Artosis' army was at it. Slush's army was largely 1-0 mutalisks while Artosis had a fair number of 3-2 hydralisks attacking it.
It wasn't like he didn't have a case. In my opinion the key problem is that he disconnected rather than a neutral disconnect.


LOL

I agree with the admin decision, but this says a lot about slush, he could have just accepted the loss since he had a chance to watch replay. Props to artosis for regaming, admins did what they had to do, slush is someone i will always cheer against from now on lol

Artosis deserves no props. He delayed the tournament for a long time by arguing with the refs. Refs spent a long time watching the rep and debating, it's not like they didn't consider his case. You can't argue with the refs and he ignored ultimatums and got himself disqualified. It was only after he was disqualified by Plexa he realised he wasn't going to win this argument and gave in. It sucks for Artosis but ref decisions must be respected.
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