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Soap
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Brazil1546 Posts
May 12 2010 21:33 GMT
#4261
Gogogogo Idra for God's sake!

Really hurts to hear HD/Husky say over and over about better unit composition when it means massing damn sentries and immortals to lock zealots away and demolish stalkers and colossi by default.
Zombee
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany69 Posts
May 12 2010 21:34 GMT
#4262
that was sad to watch --- on the one hand a real creative mind trying to do something with the stalest race, on the other hand extrem solid but very boring play by WithRa, even though I liked those archons in Game 3 (not sure if he just build them because TLO unpowered his archive).

Hope Nony vs Idra will be more entertaining.
cazter
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States31 Posts
May 12 2010 21:34 GMT
#4263
Really wish we could live stream the coming matches. So many trolls show up and drop spoilers in the chat. Yes, im aware that I can full screen and hide that but there are plenty of good people chatting as well and it's fun to BS about the action.
COO, WellPlayed.org
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
May 12 2010 21:34 GMT
#4264
On May 13 2010 06:24 Ftrunkz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2010 06:17 ninetyone wrote:
omg why didnt he go for probes with stalkers, and what about warp gate lol! nice game though

because by running that far into the base he cant just blink out as easily and likely loses a bunch of those stalkers. hd/husky give a lot of "I dont know why he isn't doing x here" when it's completely obvious why... And it also takes away from some 'awe' some people like to watch these games in...

You should get excited about how thelittleone is everywhere on the map and able to constantly keep up the harassment with just 6 stalkers barely losing any to constantly pick off pylons/units, making people pumped at watching a good player, not "Why isnt this player doing this, wtf?" Implying that he's making horrible mistakes, when infact you are, as a caster...

Yea, I agree with this. I think the casters are being too judgmental on the players sometimes, but I don't think it's on purpose, since they're just trying to add their view. Obviously we can't expect masterful SC2 insight on par with when Day[9]'s knowledge of the game when he's casting, because Husky and HD are not pro-level players.
intergalactic
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada428 Posts
May 12 2010 21:35 GMT
#4265
IMO, TheLittleOne is extremely good with every race, that's why he's random.

He just had the bad luck to play against the best toss in SC2 Beta while being toss himself.... three times in a row! So I disagree with people suggesting that TLO should pick a race. Random gives you much more versatility.

Better luck next time TLO, and again, huge props to WhiteRa.
If you value your soul, do not look into the eye of an horse
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
May 12 2010 21:35 GMT
#4266
When will the next game be streamed?
gun.slinger
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada258 Posts
May 12 2010 21:36 GMT
#4267
GG to white, really epic game 3. Even tough TLO got P 3 times in a row it's kind of sad to see people totally giving the win to TLO.
LIQUID HWAITING
limsnd
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2 Posts
May 12 2010 21:36 GMT
#4268
On May 13 2010 06:23 Trogdor wrote:
after white-ra was down 0-2, he had a 1:27 chance of getting a pvp mirror 3 times in a row. Just a thought.

This conclusion is incorrect since all 3 games (game 3, 4, and 5) are individual events. Hence, in each of those games WhiteRa had a 1 in 3 chance to be in a mirror match. TLO didn't lose to dice, he lost to WhiteRa. Good games. Both of them are great players. It was very entertaining to watch.
matko5
Profile Joined April 2010
Croatia385 Posts
May 12 2010 21:36 GMT
#4269
Talk about nerd chills! In the game 3, TLO had it, HAD IT, I was like FINISH HIM - FATALITY but I'm not sure what happened. Great games, bravo tlo and whitera. I just hope nony wins, it will be a bit boring final, but I don't like Idra. At all. Blje.
Disi gazda
xnub
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada610 Posts
May 12 2010 21:37 GMT
#4270
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]

3-2 WhiteRa

TLO was random he got
game 1 - Zerg lots lings : P Win
game 2 - Zerg mass queens Win
game 3 - Toss archones Lose
game 4 - Toss 2 gate rush Lose
game 5 - Toss No warpgate.. Lose




Whitera vs TLO results
Loving the beta !! Weeeeeeee
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-12 21:38:14
May 12 2010 21:37 GMT
#4271
On May 13 2010 06:36 limsnd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2010 06:23 Trogdor wrote:
after white-ra was down 0-2, he had a 1:27 chance of getting a pvp mirror 3 times in a row. Just a thought.

This conclusion is incorrect since all 3 games (game 3, 4, and 5) are individual events. Hence, in each of those games WhiteRa had a 1 in 3 chance to be in a mirror match. TLO didn't lose to dice, he lost to WhiteRa. Good games. Both of them are great players. It was very entertaining to watch.

L2math.... 3 individual events of 1/3 in a row = 1/27 chance
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
May 12 2010 21:38 GMT
#4272
Very exciting series of matches with a slightly anti-climactic finish. Once I saw TLO spawn P game 5 I knew it was over. Thanks for the great stream though guys, no problems on my end.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
May 12 2010 21:39 GMT
#4273
I really want information on Idra vs. Nony
aznagent
Profile Joined May 2010
Hong Kong166 Posts
May 12 2010 21:42 GMT
#4274
Whitera/TLO spoilers
+ Show Spoiler +
Why are some people commenting on how bad his luck is that he got Protoss 3 games in a row? If you recall, before TLO disconnected, he was Protoss for game 2. It is his choice to play random in this Tournament meaning he is 1/3 of every race. He went into this knowing he can't change his race half way through the tournament.

For those saying that PvP is boring... I thought game 3 and 5 were very epic Protoss games in the HDH. Come on, archons and dark templars? Don't be such fanboys If Nony comes out on top of IdrA, although my money is with IdrA, I think Nony/Whitera will play very different builds... (Nony with that Fenix play vs moonglade in the Ro16.
Quote:
matko5
Profile Joined April 2010
Croatia385 Posts
May 12 2010 21:42 GMT
#4275
On May 13 2010 06:37 teamsolid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2010 06:36 limsnd wrote:
On May 13 2010 06:23 Trogdor wrote:
after white-ra was down 0-2, he had a 1:27 chance of getting a pvp mirror 3 times in a row. Just a thought.

This conclusion is incorrect since all 3 games (game 3, 4, and 5) are individual events. Hence, in each of those games WhiteRa had a 1 in 3 chance to be in a mirror match. TLO didn't lose to dice, he lost to WhiteRa. Good games. Both of them are great players. It was very entertaining to watch.

L2math.... 3 individual events of 1/3 in a row = 1/27 chance


For every game individualy, the chance is 1/3. For 3 of them in a row 1/27. You are correct sir.
Disi gazda
fant0m
Profile Joined May 2010
964 Posts
May 12 2010 21:43 GMT
#4276
On May 13 2010 06:36 limsnd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2010 06:23 Trogdor wrote:
after white-ra was down 0-2, he had a 1:27 chance of getting a pvp mirror 3 times in a row. Just a thought.

This conclusion is incorrect since all 3 games (game 3, 4, and 5) are individual events. Hence, in each of those games WhiteRa had a 1 in 3 chance to be in a mirror match. TLO didn't lose to dice, he lost to WhiteRa. Good games. Both of them are great players. It was very entertaining to watch.


No. The chance of getting Protoss in "the next game" is always 1 out of 3.

However, the chance of getting Protoss 3 games in a row is 1 out of 27, and definitely qualifies as unlikely and very unfortunate.

On that note.... WHEN IS THE NEXT ROUND GOING TO START!!!! T_T
Stormscion
Profile Joined March 2010
Serbia27 Posts
May 12 2010 21:46 GMT
#4277
On May 13 2010 06:34 Zombee wrote:
that was sad to watch --- on the one hand a real creative mind trying to do something with the stalest race, on the other hand extrem solid but very boring play by WithRa, even though I liked those archons in Game 3 (not sure if he just build them because TLO unpowered his archive).

Hope Nony vs Idra will be more entertaining.


not sad at all... Very fun games.
Stalker hallucination into blink is not uncommon as you might think it is viable strategy ... it is just not as standard as 4 gate into robo or as easy to execute.

WhiteRa had two archons merged before his templar archives were unpowered . It was good choice considering that archons are ok vs mass zealot and TLO was massing zealots and archon tech was half opened when WhiteRa was going for dark templar since he saw weakness in TLOs build not having detection.
Archons are not great general unit but are ok choice vs mass speed zealots, I think he felt that he cant have storm in time if TLO would push... speed zealots with good control and suround demolish sentries and immortals. You play then liek zerglings.
Glufs
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway78 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-12 21:47:12
May 12 2010 21:46 GMT
#4278
wrong post
Matoo-
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Canada1397 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-12 21:49:36
May 12 2010 21:47 GMT
#4279
On a series that goes to game five, the odds are:
1% to get 5 times the same race
12% to get 4 times the same race
37% to get 2 times the same race
and 50% to get 3 times the same race, which is unsurprisingly exactly what happened today.

So yeah if you're playing random and it goes to game 5 most of the time ONE matchup out of the three will be key to the entire series, so if you're very good at one matchup (ZvP) but sucky at another (PvP) it's basically a coinflip. The coin actually came pretty close to a triple-zerg victory so was TLO really that unlucky? No idea about how he would've fared with T though.
Ftrunkz
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Australia2474 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-12 21:50:22
May 12 2010 21:47 GMT
#4280
Whilst game 4 was definitely a disapointment, i think game 3 and 5 were great games, and game 5 was unfortunate for TLO that he sent half his army to scout around for expos when he coulda just sent a single zealot... Had he had that army flanking the collosi in the last fight i think it would've been much closer than it actually was, we'll just never know =[
@NvPinder on twitter | Member of Gamecom Nv | http://www.clan-ta.com | http://www.youtube.com/user/ftrunkz | http://www.twitchtv.com/xghpinder
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