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CalvinStorm
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Canada78 Posts
April 25 2020 03:55 GMT
#1
I remember when I used to come to this forum there were pages and pages of strategies and questions. What happened to all those threads??
Never trust an Elf
Slydie
Profile Joined August 2013
1927 Posts
April 25 2020 09:06 GMT
#2
On April 25 2020 12:55 CalvinStorm wrote:
I remember when I used to come to this forum there were pages and pages of strategies and questions. What happened to all those threads??


That was a long time ago. An old game, Discord and Reddit are some reasons.
Buff the siegetank
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-04-25 22:17:14
April 25 2020 22:14 GMT
#3
there is currently a lack of well known high level posters contributing advice. in the past there were a lot more GMs and even a few pros with recognizable names replying to threads with legit detailed info on how to play, but these days it's mostly diamond and master level players giving more generic advice

also, there were a few balance whiners who used to repeatedly come into strategy threads after every ladder loss and attack people for giving them constructive criticism, which brought down the mood

the race help threads still exist and you can post in them whenever you want. just change the forum settings to show older posts and they'll come up at the bottom
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InfCereal
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1759 Posts
April 26 2020 12:11 GMT
#4
The game is what, 10 years old?

A lot of people have moved on, especially content creators.
Cereal
CalvinStorm
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Canada78 Posts
April 29 2020 04:03 GMT
#5
Hmm oh well. I just got back into the game after WOL because of the quarantine and was excited to get back on this forum as I remember it helped me a lot back in the day. I was so shocked to see it deserted
Never trust an Elf
bulya
Profile Joined February 2016
Israel386 Posts
April 29 2020 05:11 GMT
#6
try Reddit, allThingsTerran, allThingsProtoss or allThingsZergs, depending on your race
ilax30
Profile Joined November 2019
720 Posts
April 30 2020 22:01 GMT
#7
I mean at the start of the game and after every expansion with loads of new units there are tons of new strategies. But the game has been rpetty much figured out and its not like the builds change drasticially. Less exciting stuff to write about and alot of guides from a year ago are still pretty relevant. But lie other people said, the race discords, content creators discords like Pig are still very active. So best to look into certain channels for advice/builds. Or some pro players like Harstem still post builds every now and then on their YT channels
neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
May 02 2020 13:28 GMT
#8
You can find lot's of builds and stuff on sites like https://lotv.spawningtool.com/build/tvz/

and also lots of content on youtube.

I think it's just the austere, turn-of-the-millenium forum format that is no longer attracting people
maru G5L pls
Kertorak
Profile Joined November 2019
125 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-02 22:20:56
May 02 2020 18:22 GMT
#9
I don't know about this.
But how I see it: This page and many youtube videos served me an unlimited source of knowledge - it doesn't have to be from this month-topic. I read many quality posts from the past on this website (about any time). That's why I am here.

For instance "sc tutorial central" (by jakatak) gave me invaluable helps and tools and techniques but it doesn't seem to be well known (for what it deserves), he also did an immeasurable big amount of work (and together with others/pros) on "the core"... just as one example. This is a great website.

Anyways. There is also the "dark side" of reasoning.
I wish I had quality over quantity | "The point of Sc<x> is that your skill a constant WIP - which provides that unique joy of the game - not to post which rank you are in a this moment"
Beelzebub1
Profile Joined May 2015
1004 Posts
May 03 2020 14:20 GMT
#10
#1. The game is a decade old

#2. The metagame hasn't really changed all that dramatically for casual mode players. You can make virtually anything work below GM with good macro and scouting.

Just go watch some pro games for the match ups you want to study, and welcome back :D
Mrsqueak3rs
Profile Joined August 2016
United States1 Post
May 09 2020 19:00 GMT
#11
On May 02 2020 22:28 neptunusfisk wrote:
You can find lot's of builds and stuff on sites like https://lotv.spawningtool.com/build/tvz/

and also lots of content on youtube.

I think it's just the austere, turn-of-the-millenium forum format that is no longer attracting people




how dare you toss a word like "austere" around here lol.

Thanks for the link, it's gonna be real helpful when I get back into this gem of a game.
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-09 21:12:35
May 09 2020 21:12 GMT
#12
Life happened really. Turning this forum into a valuable resource took a lot of time and effort out of many of us. Eventually, we moved on to other parts of our lives, and nobody replaced the highlighted posters and TL Strategy teams. It's sad but unfortunately, it was going to happen at some point.

I'm happy to hear you found the forum useful in its glory days though
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4137 Posts
May 13 2020 11:54 GMT
#13
We all are 10 years older.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
BabelFish1
Profile Joined September 2015
186 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-14 01:59:33
May 14 2020 01:58 GMT
#14
On April 26 2020 07:14 brickrd wrote:
there is currently a lack of well known high level posters contributing advice. in the past there were a lot more GMs and even a few pros with recognizable names replying to threads with legit detailed info on how to play, but these days it's mostly diamond and master level players giving more generic advice

also, there were a few balance whiners who used to repeatedly come into strategy threads after every ladder loss and attack people for giving them constructive criticism, which brought down the mood

the race help threads still exist and you can post in them whenever you want. just change the forum settings to show older posts and they'll come up at the bottom


The other part of it is TL's forums doesn't enjoy a good reputation. They took down their forum rules and decide on a case by case basis what should and shouldn't be allowed, which has absolutely lead to issues with bad apples. I can think of several cases where frankly, moderators here should have been fired and banned but weren't. Now days it's pretty rare though but when you decide to say "screw the rules, it's my house and I'll make them up as I go along" then people stop taking you seriously, even when you exercise considerable restraint after an initial crazy period.

That combined with the other variables=the issue the OP mentions.
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-15 07:47:27
May 15 2020 07:31 GMT
#15
On May 14 2020 10:58 BabelFish1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2020 07:14 brickrd wrote:
there is currently a lack of well known high level posters contributing advice. in the past there were a lot more GMs and even a few pros with recognizable names replying to threads with legit detailed info on how to play, but these days it's mostly diamond and master level players giving more generic advice

also, there were a few balance whiners who used to repeatedly come into strategy threads after every ladder loss and attack people for giving them constructive criticism, which brought down the mood

the race help threads still exist and you can post in them whenever you want. just change the forum settings to show older posts and they'll come up at the bottom


The other part of it is TL's forums doesn't enjoy a good reputation. They took down their forum rules and decide on a case by case basis what should and shouldn't be allowed, which has absolutely lead to issues with bad apples. I can think of several cases where frankly, moderators here should have been fired and banned but weren't. Now days it's pretty rare though but when you decide to say "screw the rules, it's my house and I'll make them up as I go along" then people stop taking you seriously, even when you exercise considerable restraint after an initial crazy period.

That combined with the other variables=the issue the OP mentions.

If you don't like the forums or the moderators, you can always leave. Nobody is forcing you to stay.
Now, if you were to actually provide evidence of the "several cases where moderators here should have been fired and banned" in website feedback then maybe people will start taking your opinion more seriously.

To stay on topic:
Essentially, the game at the casual level hasnt changed in the past few years. Sometimes a random strat will rise in popularity again, but now there's also years of history to fall back on and find answers for problems.
¯\_(シ)_/¯
BlueStar
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Bulgaria1168 Posts
May 15 2020 13:36 GMT
#16
Simple:
- To create content that will be outdated after the next balance patch is nonsense.

Doing the same thing over and over again without any tangible results isn't very smart.
Leader of the Bulgarian National SCBW/SC2 team and team pSi.SCBW/SC2
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2105 Posts
May 18 2020 07:45 GMT
#17
sc2 has been figured out and we're all waiting for sc3 / wc4
WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @imjustziggy
Nantrix
Profile Joined April 2018
8 Posts
May 19 2020 00:20 GMT
#18
Well this will be the year to decide if its worth waiting for a Blizzard RTS. If nothing at Blizzcon then its time to move on to AOE4 being the new thing. Seems like Microsoft actually wants to bring RTS back.
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-24 02:00:51
May 23 2020 11:46 GMT
#19
the first gen of blue posters moved on and there was no second gen. pretty much what teoita said
also hey teo <3
get rich or die mining
TL+ Member
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-24 01:54:47
May 24 2020 01:51 GMT
#20
i've been watching a lot more sc2 lately and i haven't seen any build that has really inspired me to flesh out into a guide. it seems like every matchup protoss is basically forced to open the same way. we used to spend hours and hours ripping builds from vods and watching the build tree develop but now it's like.. watch any vod and you can do the one build if you just write it down in notepad. in my opinion lotv is very bleak.
get rich or die mining
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neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-24 20:51:12
May 24 2020 20:49 GMT
#21
On May 15 2020 16:31 Whatson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2020 10:58 BabelFish1 wrote:
On April 26 2020 07:14 brickrd wrote:
there is currently a lack of well known high level posters contributing advice. in the past there were a lot more GMs and even a few pros with recognizable names replying to threads with legit detailed info on how to play, but these days it's mostly diamond and master level players giving more generic advice

also, there were a few balance whiners who used to repeatedly come into strategy threads after every ladder loss and attack people for giving them constructive criticism, which brought down the mood

the race help threads still exist and you can post in them whenever you want. just change the forum settings to show older posts and they'll come up at the bottom


The other part of it is TL's forums doesn't enjoy a good reputation. They took down their forum rules and decide on a case by case basis what should and shouldn't be allowed, which has absolutely lead to issues with bad apples. I can think of several cases where frankly, moderators here should have been fired and banned but weren't. Now days it's pretty rare though but when you decide to say "screw the rules, it's my house and I'll make them up as I go along" then people stop taking you seriously, even when you exercise considerable restraint after an initial crazy period.

That combined with the other variables=the issue the OP mentions.

If you don't like the forums or the moderators, you can always leave.


That's exactly what the thread is about


On May 10 2020 04:00 Mrsqueak3rs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2020 22:28 neptunusfisk wrote:
You can find lot's of builds and stuff on sites like https://lotv.spawningtool.com/build/tvz/

and also lots of content on youtube.

I think it's just the austere, turn-of-the-millenium forum format that is no longer attracting people




how dare you toss a word like "austere" around here lol.

Thanks for the link, it's gonna be real helpful when I get back into this gem of a game.


You're welcome. Also search for SC2 on youtube. Plenty of strategy and build videos there.
maru G5L pls
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