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Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
June 11 2013 21:52 GMT
#81
On June 12 2013 06:33 Waxangel wrote:
do this on red city a lot, watch zergs get angry :D


Red City is one of the best maps for this (or Soultrain really). I love that map :D
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33418 Posts
June 11 2013 21:53 GMT
#82
On June 12 2013 06:52 ZackAttack wrote:
I probably won't be using this build, as I have fallen in love with skytoss, but the name is absolutely great.


it's a good mix-up with skytoss because it can potentially destroy ling-hydra opens!
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Mahtasooma
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany475 Posts
June 11 2013 21:59 GMT
#83
Someone did this on ladder to me today... died horribly to muta ling off of 3 base. Snipe collossi with muta, go in with lings, ?????, profit.
http://twitch.tv/mahtasooma
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8304 Posts
June 11 2013 22:00 GMT
#84
Ha! Thought this might be the first features non-Protoss article. Can't complain tho, as a toss I love this!
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Bourne
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom152 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-11 22:13:16
June 11 2013 22:11 GMT
#85
NO WHY DID YOU HIGHLIGHT THIS BUILD! i have been using it in pvz alot now and now the zergs will play against it more TT. it is a great build and the phoenix variation is also pretty nice.
JayPower
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands171 Posts
June 11 2013 22:15 GMT
#86
Love the stargate variation of this build. Highly recommend it! Very well written guide and cool build
Jaypowersc2.com for Guides, Videos, Replays and Coaching
Lega-
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada141 Posts
June 11 2013 22:17 GMT
#87
Epic post.


On June 12 2013 04:13 Alejandrisha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2013 04:11 LeafBlower wrote:
i've been trying this build for a while but haven't found that much success because i suck at executing it. i think it's super important to deny all scouting and make it ambiguous as to whether or not you're taking a 3rd. great guide though.

when you engage, it should look like this

[image loading]


hope that helps

Qwyn
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2779 Posts
June 11 2013 22:21 GMT
#88
I feel like it's time for infestors to make a comeback.
"Think of the hysteria following the realization that they consciously consume babies and raise the dead people from their graves" - N0
Coppii
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway57 Posts
June 11 2013 22:21 GMT
#89
LOVE IT! nice write-up! hillarious name for an all-in xD
Ad astra per aspera
Lauriel
Profile Joined October 2012
United States108 Posts
June 11 2013 22:22 GMT
#90
Finally a solution to the problem of how to deal with tech switch zerg.

Don't.

I love it.
Kaizen[7]
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States86 Posts
June 11 2013 22:22 GMT
#91
Great guide right here! I love the thinking behind this build and the two variants provide a whole lot of possibilities! Really sweet stuff. I think personally, for me in Plat/Diamond that I can probably get away with the robo variant more often but who knows? I really like the idea of making it look like you're taking a third behind a bunch of phoenixes when instead you're gearing up for a timing attack. I mean, as long as you deny scouting you could end up just completely catching your opponent off guard for a really disgusting push.

Now I just need a decent PvP build and I'll finally be getting my HotS ladder on! Being unemployed does allow for a more starcraft-oriented schedule, this much is certain =)
For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan
asaed
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1412 Posts
June 11 2013 22:24 GMT
#92
So sick
Galatians 2:20
hipo
Profile Joined November 2010
France482 Posts
June 11 2013 22:29 GMT
#93
Since there isn't any VOD of this build on Red City, you might want to add Yonghwa vs BBoongBoong [GSTL W8 Set 2]:
http://www.gomtv.net/2013gstls1/vod/80052 (Magic Johnson without Stargate)
Thalandros
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Netherlands1151 Posts
June 11 2013 22:30 GMT
#94
A part of me just dies when I read this. Why introduce more allins to the population of Starcraft? =( The game is sad enough already with the countless black and white games.
|| ''I think we have all experienced passion that is not in any sense reasonable.'' ||
Gool
Profile Joined August 2010
Argentina204 Posts
June 11 2013 22:37 GMT
#95
Because Protoss is designed around all-ins. If protoss were dependant on lategame their win rate would not be even close to 50%.
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
June 11 2013 22:39 GMT
#96
On June 12 2013 07:30 Thalandros wrote:
A part of me just dies when I read this. Why introduce more allins to the population of Starcraft? =( The game is sad enough already with the countless black and white games.


Because it's not "exactly" an all in--more a metagame response due to shifting responses.

If metagame is roach heavy--soul train.

If metagame is Hydra heavy--Magic J.

If metagame is cautious--fast third.
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
Qwyn
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2779 Posts
June 11 2013 23:08 GMT
#97
On June 12 2013 06:59 Mahtasooma wrote:
Someone did this on ladder to me today... died horribly to muta ling off of 3 base. Snipe collossi with muta, go in with lings, ?????, profit.


Evidently they didn't open the stargate variant of the build...I just can't see myself opening with mutas when there are already five phoenix out...
"Think of the hysteria following the realization that they consciously consume babies and raise the dead people from their graves" - N0
Zealot Lord
Profile Joined May 2010
Hong Kong747 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-11 23:23:06
June 11 2013 23:22 GMT
#98
On June 12 2013 07:37 Gool wrote:
Because Protoss is designed around all-ins. If protoss were dependant on lategame their win rate would not be even close to 50%.


Pretty much this unfortunately. All-in's is what keeps protoss somewhat competitive. The threat of a powerful all-in is what also allows them to be economically greedy as well. If you play a standard ultra conservative style like Rain, you are actually behind on your opponent almost every time - and generally no one else wants to play it like that (probably because they can't win like Rain lol).

But anyways, great guide! I haven't done this build yet, I'll give it a try soon though!!
Sansai
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria188 Posts
June 11 2013 23:23 GMT
#99
nice and innovative, i loved how P play evolved... oh wait P used to do this build forever
skorched
Profile Joined October 2010
United States81 Posts
June 11 2013 23:28 GMT
#100
On June 12 2013 08:23 Sansai wrote:
nice and innovative, i loved how P play evolved... oh wait P used to do this build forever


Very true, this was my pvz for wings of liberty, It's making a comeback because of metagame as stated in the OP.
I love the sound of Medivacs getting feedbacked.
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