I noticed in the video that he taps 1 -5 with 1 and 4 he taps a lot with his first two fingers. I tried doing that but my first two fingers can't easily tap two buttons with 2 buttons inbetween.
Being able to tap 1-6 with 2 fingers I saw that his ability to have his ring finger always rest on A or surrounding buttons even when he's tapping or in battle. I was kind of curious if his hand size gives him a slight edge over smaller handed people like myself?
one thing that you haven't said is that i think he has rebound his left click to right click, and vice versa. If u want proof, there is one part of this video (cant remember where) where he is only spamming the mouse left click for like 10 seconds as fast as he can while in the middle of a big battle. The only explanation of this is that he is targeting the broodlords with his units as you need to spam click to target them as the broodlings mess with the AI.
Yeah so thats another interesting thing about his setup. As for big hands, yes i imagine that does help and also for me as someone who plays the piano that also helped as it enables me to stretch further and move my fingers faster.
I would guess that his main macro cycle is 4,5,6. So he keeps his little finger on 1 to quickly jump to his main army.
As for left and right mouse buttons being switched, it doesn't seem so to me. It seems like he's on attack command and spamming left mouse button. Probably uses attack command to focus fire instead of right click so that he doesn't move his army on accident if he misses (if Flash ever misses his clicks).
On September 26 2012 00:23 Shikada wrote: I would guess that his main macro cycle is 4,5,6. So he keeps his little finger on 1 to quickly jump to his main army.
As for left and right mouse buttons being switched, it doesn't seem so to me. It seems like he's on attack command and spamming left mouse button. Probably uses attack command to focus fire instead of right click so that he doesn't move his army on accident if he misses (if Flash ever misses his clicks).
His first and middle finger cover all his control groups without ever having to move his ring finger from A. So he's able to use all his control groups with the first and second finger. Most people have to use the ring finger at some point I think.
On September 26 2012 00:23 Shikada wrote: I would guess that his main macro cycle is 4,5,6. So he keeps his little finger on 1 to quickly jump to his main army.
As for left and right mouse buttons being switched, it doesn't seem so to me. It seems like he's on attack command and spamming left mouse button. Probably uses attack command to focus fire instead of right click so that he doesn't move his army on accident if he misses (if Flash ever misses his clicks).
His first and middle finger cover all his control groups without ever having to move his ring finger from A. So he's able to use all his control groups with the first and second finger. Most people have to use the ring finger at some point I think.
Whops, I meant ring finger in my post, not little finger (which he almost doesn't use). But yeah, you're right! You can see him press 1 and 2 with his middle finger while keeping the ring finger on A. That pretty uncomfortable for me. I guess it takes getting used to, although I don't see any particular benefits. Seems like his personal preference.
On September 26 2012 00:23 Shikada wrote: I would guess that his main macro cycle is 4,5,6. So he keeps his little finger on 1 to quickly jump to his main army.
As for left and right mouse buttons being switched, it doesn't seem so to me. It seems like he's on attack command and spamming left mouse button. Probably uses attack command to focus fire instead of right click so that he doesn't move his army on accident if he misses (if Flash ever misses his clicks).
His first and middle finger cover all his control groups without ever having to move his ring finger from A. So he's able to use all his control groups with the first and second finger. Most people have to use the ring finger at some point I think.
Whops, I meant ring finger in my post, not little finger (which he almost doesn't use). But yeah, you're right! You can see him press 1 and 2 with his middle finger while keeping the ring finger on A. That pretty uncomfortable for me. I guess it takes getting used to, although I don't see any particular benefits. Seems like his personal preference.
I would presume it would be easier to macro if a finger was dedicated to never move up to the control groups. That, and hand posture so less shifing hand one column over and back. Totally guessing though.
On September 26 2012 00:09 RustySpork wrote: one thing that you haven't said is that i think he has rebound his left click to right click, and vice versa. If u want proof, there is one part of this video (cant remember where) where he is only spamming the mouse left click for like 10 seconds as fast as he can while in the middle of a big battle. The only explanation of this is that he is targeting the broodlords with his units as you need to spam click to target them as the broodlings mess with the AI.
Yeah so thats another interesting thing about his setup. As for big hands, yes i imagine that does help and also for me as someone who plays the piano that also helped as it enables me to stretch further and move my fingers faster.
No.. If you watch closely you can see he's spamming both mouse clicks when he has his tanks selected. My guess for the left click spamming is for tactile sensation/response. You can see his tank shots hitting roaches at the north. And how do tanks hit broodlords?
he still uses broodwarish keys. grid-based custom is way more efficient as you don't have to move fingers that far .. anyway impressive but improvable.
On September 26 2012 05:54 Schnullerbacke13 wrote: he still uses broodwarish keys. grid-based custom is way more efficient as you don't have to move fingers that far .. anyway impressive but improvable.
Moving your hand isn't very important when it comes to hotkey efficiency.
On September 26 2012 05:54 Schnullerbacke13 wrote: he still uses broodwarish keys. grid-based custom is way more efficient as you don't have to move fingers that far .. anyway impressive but improvable.
Moving your hand isn't very important when it comes to hotkey efficiency.
ofc at 250+ apm it is. it's pretty similar to playing a music instrument, and high level musicians spend a loit of time optimizing the amount of movement. less movement = faster and more precise play.
All I saw was a Flash Starcraft version of how a typist has asdf jkl; as their resting position. The whole point is that each finger has a designated key to press, and that when his hand moves around the keyboard the resting position means he's never 'lost' when moving the left hand over the keyboard to hit all those spread about keys.
On September 26 2012 06:09 antz0r wrote: All I saw was a Flash Starcraft version of how a typist has asdf jkl; as their resting position. The whole point is that each finger has a designated key to press, and that when his hand moves around the keyboard the resting position means he's never 'lost' when moving the left hand over the keyboard to hit all those spread about keys.
hitting k takes ~3 times as long from resting position as hitting a. that matters at high apm levels
Also, I tried out his hand positioning in that photo and it takes the full extension of my hand to be able to hit the keys like that. Its also crazy how every finger on his left hand is so well coordinated.
On September 26 2012 05:54 Schnullerbacke13 wrote: he still uses broodwarish keys. grid-based custom is way more efficient as you don't have to move fingers that far .. anyway impressive but improvable.
Moving your hand isn't very important when it comes to hotkey efficiency.
ofc at 250+ apm it is. it's pretty similar to playing a music instrument, and high level musicians spend a loit of time optimizing the amount of movement. less movement = faster and more precise play.
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I love flash in sc2. Every rep I see his eapm is so fucking sick high, he's so efficient.
There is nothing special about his hand positioning. My hand is positioned almost that exact same way. I play with grid and coming from a FPS background my hands feel more natural choked up near the numbers. Im sure there are differences, but the hand placement concept is similar. Still not enough to bring me into high masters though
Using my ring finger produces marines, workers, etc. while my index and middle finger cycle through my production. (Keys 4,5, and 6). To attack move my index finger just drops from 5 to "T". I do believe grid is a more efficient way to play as everything is grouped nicely. But once again its just what your used to!
On September 26 2012 06:08 Schnullerbacke13 wrote:
On September 26 2012 06:03 -_- wrote:
On September 26 2012 05:54 Schnullerbacke13 wrote: he still uses broodwarish keys. grid-based custom is way more efficient as you don't have to move fingers that far .. anyway impressive but improvable.
Moving your hand isn't very important when it comes to hotkey efficiency.
ofc at 250+ apm it is. it's pretty similar to playing a music instrument, and high level musicians spend a loit of time optimizing the amount of movement. less movement = faster and more precise play.
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I love flash in sc2. Every rep I see his eapm is so fucking sick high, he's so efficient.
What rep? I only seen supposedly him vs KawaiiRice one. Please hook it up
On September 26 2012 06:08 Schnullerbacke13 wrote:
On September 26 2012 06:03 -_- wrote:
On September 26 2012 05:54 Schnullerbacke13 wrote: he still uses broodwarish keys. grid-based custom is way more efficient as you don't have to move fingers that far .. anyway impressive but improvable.
Moving your hand isn't very important when it comes to hotkey efficiency.
ofc at 250+ apm it is. it's pretty similar to playing a music instrument, and high level musicians spend a loit of time optimizing the amount of movement. less movement = faster and more precise play.
removed -- didn't need to be said.
I love flash in sc2. Every rep I see his eapm is so fucking sick high, he's so efficient.
What rep? I only seen supposedly him vs KawaiiRice one. Please hook it up
On September 26 2012 06:08 Schnullerbacke13 wrote:
On September 26 2012 06:03 -_- wrote:
On September 26 2012 05:54 Schnullerbacke13 wrote: he still uses broodwarish keys. grid-based custom is way more efficient as you don't have to move fingers that far .. anyway impressive but improvable.
Moving your hand isn't very important when it comes to hotkey efficiency.
ofc at 250+ apm it is. it's pretty similar to playing a music instrument, and high level musicians spend a loit of time optimizing the amount of movement. less movement = faster and more precise play.
removed -- didn't need to be said.
I love flash in sc2. Every rep I see his eapm is so fucking sick high, he's so efficient.
What rep? I only seen supposedly him vs KawaiiRice one. Please hook it up
He plays in Proleague you know
Obviously, I watch the vods. Replays =/ vods Furthermore, I don't know how you'd see eapm in a vod. Maybe instead of being snarky you could be helpful
On September 26 2012 06:27 Fistro wrote: LOL even MC learns watching Flash playing ... 00:13
Dont see MC in there lol. And does anyone know what the ruler is for?
Lol, Flash ruler. =)
Flash sets up his mousepad, keyboard, and mouse before every game. He puts them the exact same distance away from each other as he does in practice. He started doing it in mid/late 2008 while he was in a "slump" (mind you a slump is still better than 65% win pct, but he was dropping from individuals). Enter mid 2009 into 2010 when he put together the most impressive year in e-sports history.
On September 26 2012 06:27 Fistro wrote: LOL even MC learns watching Flash playing ... 00:13
Dont see MC in there lol. And does anyone know what the ruler is for?
Lol, Flash ruler. =)
Flash sets up his mousepad, keyboard, and mouse before every game. He puts them the exact same distance away from each other as he does in practice. He started doing it in mid/late 2008 while he was in a "slump" (mind you a slump is still better than 65% win pct, but he was dropping from individuals). Enter mid 2009 into 2010 when he put together the most impressive year in e-sports history.
I thought it was more or less insulting to the other player, not actually for measuring; i.e. "i am your ruler"
On September 26 2012 06:27 Fistro wrote: LOL even MC learns watching Flash playing ... 00:13
Dont see MC in there lol. And does anyone know what the ruler is for?
Lol, Flash ruler. =)
Flash sets up his mousepad, keyboard, and mouse before every game. He puts them the exact same distance away from each other as he does in practice. He started doing it in mid/late 2008 while he was in a "slump" (mind you a slump is still better than 65% win pct, but he was dropping from individuals). Enter mid 2009 into 2010 when he put together the most impressive year in e-sports history.
Losira (Flash either) doesnt have that big of hands... on my DT35 with my palm below the space bar I can reach my fingers over the top of the keyboard and pick it up one-handed, and I'm just a white guy with guitarist/pianist fingers. Imagine Shaq or something. I think being cspable of a 3-9 stretch on electric guitar is more than enough hand size for SC, but I dont think handsize/finger length matter. Hamds move, you know . . .
Anyone having issues with reach, do daily finger stretches and build the muscles. You should be able to fold every finger backward to touch the back of your hand, and you should be able to hold your pinky out at 90 degrees with no assistance from the other hand and without moving any other fingers. Finger exercises can do wonders.
On September 26 2012 14:58 xrapture wrote: How the hell can you press 1 with your middle finger and a with your ring finger? hurts my hand even thinking about it
Like this, sir. Prerequisite: a normal left hand. Right hand optional.
I hope this diagram offers sufficient explanation.
On September 26 2012 14:58 xrapture wrote: How the hell can you press 1 with your middle finger and a with your ring finger? hurts my hand even thinking about it
Like this, sir. Prerequisite: a normal left hand. Right hand optional.
I hope this diagram offers sufficient explanation.
Flash is such a baller it makes me wanna use his hotkeys, but 1a is death and 0 for cc's is insane. I have very large hands btw and I really like ring for attack but I prefer 2 and 3 as army control groups to alleviate crippling wrist pain.
On September 26 2012 14:58 xrapture wrote: How the hell can you press 1 with your middle finger and a with your ring finger? hurts my hand even thinking about it
dude, how the hell can you press 1 with your middle finger and a with your ring finger? How about having a big hand... 1 + a most likely is not even a challenge for Flash when he's pressing 1 and z
No possible way I could ever do that, but I do have smaller hands.
I'm 6'3. I'm sure my hands are bigger than a 5 foot 7 korean's. It just seems really really awkward and like it would cause wrist problems, but i guess he's used to it obviously.
On September 26 2012 18:48 covetousrat wrote: Flash hand inst so big to be honest. and i personally feels that his play is still quite slow compared to ppl like losira
Of course; Flash was never about insane speeds, but more about understanding and solid decision-making. That isn't to say he's not fast, because he sure as heck is.
Does anyone know why he ended up switching up the mouse keys? I tried it in a custom, with in mind that I'd be totally confused of course, but still doesn't seem to make a difference (finger wise). Love to see these kind of things, btw.
While Flash may be amazing at keyboard dexterity... There are custom hotkeys for a reason. Anything that Flash is doing that overcomes the clumsiness of the keyboard has already been solved by hotkey layouts made by Jakatak and Foxymayhem, in the Darkgrid, Core, and Chameleon. The Core gives access to all 10 control groups while keeping a finger on the "A" key, army, and production hotkeys. I can mechanically do anything Flash can do with these custom layouts but with greater comfort(obviously not as fast nor as well, but the potential is there with practice).
On September 25 2012 23:56 worldpeace30 wrote: I was kind of curious if his hand size gives him a slight edge over smaller handed people like myself?
I'd say Flash definitely has an edge over you one way or another :-D
But I'd say hitting 1 and 5 with pointy and middle finger is rather irrelevant. Where'd your other fingers go anyway? If your middle is on 1, what would your ringfinger possibly be for?
On September 25 2012 23:56 worldpeace30 wrote: I was kind of curious if his hand size gives him a slight edge over smaller handed people like myself?
I'd say Flash definitely has an edge over you one way or another :-D
But I'd say hitting 1 and 5 with pointy and middle finger is rather irrelevant. Where'd your other fingers go anyway? If your middle is on 1, what would your ringfinger possibly be for?
I'm not sure if you use Standard but every hotkey setup has its strengths and slight weakness. Standard is really easy to macro immaculately by tapping but then you usually have to move your finger down to buld SCV. If on the other hand you never have to move your hand down from the control groups but have a finger resting at all times on the build SCV location, and you're good, imagine how good your macro can be... And Flash's is known for his macro. I just saw him play vs Last on starleague and his scv production while even in battle was perfect... perfect one after the other without queing even while in battle. It's harder to build scvs 24/7 when an extra finger is required to use control groups.
Huh. I expected his hotkeys to be more efficient. One would think that the kespa teams would put some thought into hotkey set-ups since they would gain quite alot from it. Both in speed/accuracy and players less prone to injury.
On September 26 2012 15:46 JackReacher wrote: Losira (Flash either) doesnt have that big of hands... on my DT35 with my palm below the space bar I can reach my fingers over the top of the keyboard and pick it up one-handed, and I'm just a white guy with guitarist/pianist fingers. Imagine Shaq or something. I think being cspable of a 3-9 stretch on electric guitar is more than enough hand size for SC, but I dont think handsize/finger length matter. Hamds move, you know . . .
Anyone having issues with reach, do daily finger stretches and build the muscles. You should be able to fold every finger backward to touch the back of your hand, and you should be able to hold your pinky out at 90 degrees with no assistance from the other hand and without moving any other fingers. Finger exercises can do wonders.
Okay....that's a little silly. I've been playing piano for several years, there's NO WAY finger stretching alone allows you to do those things.
I agree with hand size not mattering for SC2. I think a good example to think of is all of the incredibly talented asian piano players in the world that have tiny hands but can still play incredibly hard things with huge stretches...they just move their hands faster. Same thing for SC2. It's certainly an advantage to be able to easily use 1-8 hotkeys with ease, but if your handspan naturally only reaches 1-5, that's no problem, you can always practice shifting, moving hotkeys around, etc.
I dont understand the fixation with using all 10 control groups, at least as terran. I use a grid based setup (based on frequency of use not actual position in command card) and have found that it is worth it to only use 6 of my groups (4=CCs, R,5,T=production G,H,B=unit groups) because there are only so many keys on the left side that are easy to press. Ive gotten good at using the tab function (rebound to caps lock since my hand rests on A W E F) to cycle through selections, so sometimes I dump all production on R. This is consistent with what I see from Terran pros (MKP for one), whose hands are locked in place on the left side. In games Ive seen of MKP he literally has no lateral wrist movement, it is anchored in place and I dont think he hits a key past G or H. He also uses a 3 CG setup for his army, though he splits up his production buildings. With my hand not moving laterally, while also not needing to do any serious hand deformation like in the picture above, I am able to play as fast as I possibly can for long stretches without hurting myself, and I think Terran in particular benefits from a setup like this.
Hand size doesnt matter, you can be good with big or little. What it does affect though is which keys are easiest for you to hit. I have bigger hands so "outside" movements are natural for me, whereas inside movements are not as smooth.
its personal preference. some have the timings when to make upgrades in their head some need control groups. there are some crtl groups u really need but its not all 10 =P if you have bad memory u need all 10 flash uses i think 7.
Instead of splitting ghost academy, armory and ebay onto 3 separate groups, why not just use a camera hotkey to navigate? In most games you will spend, literally, 10-15 actions on these buildings. Out of possibly thousands of actions. They just don't get used enough to merit using a decent control group on them.
Edit: I do anywhere from 5-7, with 3 groups for army, 1 group for CCs and then either production stacked or split to take it to 5 or 7 respectively.
On September 27 2012 01:45 rikter wrote: Instead of splitting ghost academy, armory and ebay onto 3 separate groups, why not just use a camera hotkey to navigate?
Because I only have 4 camera hotkey and I use all of them for my bases
I think that it has to do with something that a lot of BW pros do; they play with their hands tilted to the left so they're able to get a more comfortable coverage of the keyboard, so his fingers are better suited at reaching his control groups than they otherwise would, he's also able to keep his ring finger on A this way.
On September 26 2012 15:46 JackReacher wrote: Losira (Flash either) doesnt have that big of hands... on my DT35 with my palm below the space bar I can reach my fingers over the top of the keyboard and pick it up one-handed, and I'm just a white guy with guitarist/pianist fingers. Imagine Shaq or something. I think being cspable of a 3-9 stretch on electric guitar is more than enough hand size for SC, but I dont think handsize/finger length matter. Hamds move, you know . . .
Anyone having issues with reach, do daily finger stretches and build the muscles. You should be able to fold every finger backward to touch the back of your hand, and you should be able to hold your pinky out at 90 degrees with no assistance from the other hand and without moving any other fingers. Finger exercises can do wonders.
Okay....that's a little silly. I've been playing piano for several years, there's NO WAY finger stretching alone allows you to do those things.
I agree with hand size not mattering for SC2. I think a good example to think of is all of the incredibly talented asian piano players in the world that have tiny hands but can still play incredibly hard things with huge stretches...they just move their hands faster. Same thing for SC2. It's certainly an advantage to be able to easily use 1-8 hotkeys with ease, but if your handspan naturally only reaches 1-5, that's no problem, you can always practice shifting, moving hotkeys around, etc.
Well, I've had carpal tunnel release surgery on both wrists from gaming/guitar, and had some flexor tendons torn in my left hand racing motocross, which had to be surgically repaired. With physical therapy and some extra movement provided by new tissue (as well as being really flexible to begin with), I can practically tie the fingers in my left hand in knots by themselves. I wouldn't recommend anyone to go to such measures for increased reach/flexibility, but I still believe in liberal, daily stretching of any muscles or tendons you use on a daily basis to increase strength and flexibility. I may not be a korean pro, but being able to keep my ring finger anchored on the "a" key and stretch across the top to press 0a9a4e with 2 fingers, always keeping ring finger anchored on "A" to react at a moment's notice, is a benefit to anyone playing the game nonetheless. I have a feeling SOME of Flash's dexterity comes from flexibility training, and if it didn't, i'd be wildly surprised.
Everyone considering pro-gaming should talk to a doctor about preemptive carpal tunnel release surgery; I've had it in both wrists, so I can play 12 hours a day with the world's worst posture and ergonomics on purpose, and never have any wrist troubles because the area liable for inflammation has been snipped/loosened. Just a health consideration, but always ask your doctor first. Also applicable to anyone considering a career in racing motocross; this same surgery ELIMINATES arm-pump.
These are as close to performance-enhancing surgeries as it gets in esports, but unfortunately, it generally is only talked about after it's too late and the damage is done.
Edit: In the video, Flash is using the same keyboard I use, so I have a pretty good idea of the comparison. He's not a whiz on the keyboard; he's a genius at starcraft.
I agree with everyone saying it could be a carpal tunnel giver. I personally do something that I feel is quite uncomfortable sometimes, but is also a necessity for me. Control and then binding M3 or M4 (Razer Black Widow) to hatch/queen. and M1 to Evo chambers. So to hit M1 i usually use my ring finger, which hovers around A and I move from there. Pinky hits hatch (M3) and Queen (M4) when necessary, middle mouse to do the backspace for injects. The setup I have is good when you have it ready, but to get the Queens and Hatches keyed up, I do an awkward movement of holding CTRL with my pinky, curling it and straightening my hand to hit M3 and M4, When I go to key up M1, I extend my middle finger since it is just long enough to reach, but in the process I roll my wrist to the side and pivot my wrist to perform the keypress.
On September 26 2012 00:09 CodeskyE wrote: also note that his mouse setup is different.
last i heard, his right and left mouse click are switched, so he moves units/focus fire using left click iirc.
his clicks are definitely normal seeing the video. i'm not sure how you can even reverse them in bw without a 3rd party software...which i highly doubt is used.
On September 26 2012 00:09 CodeskyE wrote: also note that his mouse setup is different.
last i heard, his right and left mouse click are switched, so he moves units/focus fire using left click iirc.
his clicks are definitely normal seeing the video. i'm not sure how you can even reverse them in bw without a 3rd party software...which i highly doubt is used.
Windows has built in settings, since many people are left handed. Set the mouse to left handed and you get reversed left/right click.
Most players end up using 3 fingers to do the following(my assumption): a. tap between production b. select army c. use army abilities d. build units from tapped structers. Tapping is usually with 2 fingers and a 3rd finger is usually used for army control. This results in steps: Step 1: tap, Step 2: select army, Step: Attack/harass/defend with army. Step 3: tap, Step 4: build units, Step 5: select army, Step 6: use army special ability. Flash is able to do something special which cuts some corners. Step 1: tap, Step 2: Build SCV(S) + Marine(A) while tapping, Step 3: Check army + attack + tap CC + build SCV and Marine + go back to attacking with "A" + select CC/Orbital + build SCV + select army + attack - and so on because all the actions result in him not moving his ring finger from A only to hit S one key over.
On September 26 2012 00:09 CodeskyE wrote: also note that his mouse setup is different.
last i heard, his right and left mouse click are switched, so he moves units/focus fire using left click iirc.
his clicks are definitely normal seeing the video. i'm not sure how you can even reverse them in bw without a 3rd party software...which i highly doubt is used.
go to 1:40 minute part of the video and watch it.
he's clearly focus firing using his left mouse, which leads me to believe that his mouse is reversed. and yes, you can change mouse settings in windows.
Anyone know where I can get one of the mouse bungees flash is using there? I've seen a lot of other pros from korea using them, they seem more awesome than the flimsy razer one because of the weight in the middle.
What's so special with it? Looks like anyone sitting with a keyboard, lol all this attention because he is Flash. It's like when an artist makes a painting and it's just a black line on a black board and people analyze the shit out if it because it was made by a famous artist.
On September 28 2012 03:42 M7Jagger wrote: What's so special with it? Looks like anyone sitting with a keyboard, lol all this attention because he is Flash. It's like when an artist makes a painting and it's just a black line on a black board and people analyze the shit out if it because it was made by a famous artist.
On September 26 2012 00:09 CodeskyE wrote: also note that his mouse setup is different.
last i heard, his right and left mouse click are switched, so he moves units/focus fire using left click iirc.
his clicks are definitely normal seeing the video. i'm not sure how you can even reverse them in bw without a 3rd party software...which i highly doubt is used.
go to 1:40 minute part of the video and watch it.
he's clearly focus firing using his left mouse, which leads me to believe that his mouse is reversed. and yes, you can change mouse settings in windows.
Focus fire is done with left click after pressing"a". U dont want to missclick ground and move ur army into them instead. I forgot its an option in cpanel
On September 28 2012 03:42 M7Jagger wrote: What's so special with it? Looks like anyone sitting with a keyboard, lol all this attention because he is Flash. It's like when an artist makes a painting and it's just a black line on a black board and people analyze the shit out if it because it was made by a famous artist.
You know, you would be completely right, if not for one thing. He is Flash! :D
Seriously though, if you have nothing to contribute and find this uninteresting, find another thread. I find this one fascinating.
On September 28 2012 03:42 M7Jagger wrote: What's so special with it? Looks like anyone sitting with a keyboard, lol all this attention because he is Flash. It's like when an artist makes a painting and it's just a black line on a black board and people analyze the shit out if it because it was made by a famous artist.
You know, you would be completely right, if not for one thing. He is Flash! :D
Seriously though, if you have nothing to contribute and find this uninteresting, find another thread. I find this one fascinating.
Redt(poster with 6 posts total) can only be short for reddit. Somebody who didn't like the video there must have seen the tlnet comment on it and jumped over here for the downvote, aww, no downvote here without a valid reason why and contributing
Probably gonna incorporate flash's hand position and some of his hotkeys to mine, seems way too useful to keep it my way atm.
On September 28 2012 11:05 worldpeace30 wrote: Redt(poster with 6 posts total) can only be short for reddit. Somebody who didn't like the video there must have seen the tlnet comment on it and jumped over here for the downvote, aww, no downvote here without a valid reason why and contributing
[a little offtopic]I haven't visited reddit for at least a month and I don't plan on visiting it anyways. I meant of the nick in CS and when reddit didn't even exist yet. When I switched to sc2 and found out there was a progamer named ret, I changed my nick instantly, so no, no and no. Btw, the name means red (my favourite colour) plus my first name's first letter.
Plus, I registered before you and no, it is not someone else's acc. You should really put a little more thought into things like this.[/a little offtopic]
On September 28 2012 18:42 redt wrote: Probably gonna incorporate flash's hand position and some of his hotkeys to mine, seems way too useful to keep it my way atm.
On September 28 2012 11:05 worldpeace30 wrote: Redt(poster with 6 posts total) can only be short for reddit. Somebody who didn't like the video there must have seen the tlnet comment on it and jumped over here for the downvote, aww, no downvote here without a valid reason why and contributing
[a little offtopic]I haven't visited reddit for at least a month and I don't plan on visiting it anyways. I meant of the nick in CS and when reddit didn't even exist yet. When I switched to sc2 and found out there was a progamer named ret, I changed my nick instantly, so no, no and no. Btw, the name means red (my favourite colour) plus my first name's first letter.
Plus, I registered before you and no, it is not someone else's acc. You should really put a little more thought into things like this.[/a little offtopic]
I apologize, there's a reddit troll that stalks me everywhere. It seemed suspicious because this thread is 3 days old and there has not been any negative comments on it in 3 days with 68 posts and over 10,000 views. Your post and the one above you was made in 30 minutes time from when I posted my zoomed in video on reddit where it was commented that this duscussion was on reddit. That and you only had 6 posts of post history when you posted. If you aren't from reddit then my bad.
I don't think it matters much one way or the other. My left hand setup is identical to Flash's (has been for 10 years), with ring finger constantly resting on "a". I think people who use the 1-control group for their main army gravitate towards this solution. You will a-move your main army a lot during the course of a game, and lifting your ring finger to the 1-key followed by jumping down to the "a" seems rather inefficient for a movement that will be repeated so often.
People's hands are different. I saw someone wonder why people use the tip of their pinky fingers for ctrl and shift. The answer for me personally is that I find it physically impossible to use the root of my pinky finger or the palm for ctrl while at the same time maintaining my normal range, and while at the same time maintaining my preferred setup of having my ring finger resting on "a" at all times (except when pressing Q and tab). Some of it is probably due to using the pinky in the same manner while playing the guitar. I can reach from ctrl to the 9-key if I really push it, but during games I only hotkey up to 8.
I can see how the position with the ring finger on A i efficient, but I just find it too uncomfortable to use. Perhaps it takes time. I would sooner rebind attack to ~, so I can keep my fingers on ~,1,2,3. But I guess some of those BW habits are by this point impossible to kill for someone like Flash
Yeah its awesome. I have a really bad conection so streams lag really hard for me, but Losira switches screens so fast that I dont notice it and can still enjoy the game.
EPT
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