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[G] How to Improve Efficiently at SC2 1v1 - Page 9

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yoden
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States64 Posts
April 05 2011 01:26 GMT
#161
Thanks for the post Cecil. I loved the way it incorporated lots of different MLG/GSL games and recent strategy section posts. Probably the best content I've read in the strategy forums this year.
CecilSunkure
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2829 Posts
April 05 2011 01:43 GMT
#162
On April 05 2011 10:18 Myrkul wrote:
I gather from your introduction that you're still in high-school, so that would make you 17-18? The following comment is based on that assumption.

I am very impressed with your cognitive abillities. I am curious as to the details of how you've developed the aproach to problem solving you demonstrate here. It is very methodical and analytical, traits that are not common among teenagers. Actually untill the emergence of positivism a century ago they weren't common among anyone, except mathematicians.

I'm particularly interested in how and when you became aware of the importance of clear definitions when discussing a subject?

Yeah I'm about that age. I do a lot of studying and thinking. I learned that clear definitions are required whenever communicating with someone, as when two people communicate it's actually never words alone that are being tossed around, the words are just tools at which to communicate ideas. So, I need to make sure that everyone is hearing my ideas, not just my words.

If you want you can PM if you have more specific questions
Orphen
Profile Joined December 2010
United States101 Posts
April 05 2011 01:55 GMT
#163
thanks for the guide!
bloodorc44
Profile Joined January 2011
United States31 Posts
April 05 2011 02:00 GMT
#164
You know, I play video games for a profession as well. I work for Microsoft as a balance tester for the new Age of Empires game coming out, called Age of Empires Online.


Can we get a confirmation on this? I absolutely adore the AoE series, and was crushed when Ensemble Studios split up.
CecilSunkure
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2829 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-05 02:05:59
April 05 2011 02:03 GMT
#165
On April 05 2011 11:00 bloodorc44 wrote:
Show nested quote +
You know, I play video games for a profession as well. I work for Microsoft as a balance tester for the new Age of Empires game coming out, called Age of Empires Online.


Can we get a confirmation on this? I absolutely adore the AoE series, and was crushed when Ensemble Studios split up.

Confirmation? How about when the Non-Disclosure Agreement is lifted from Beta I start streaming gameplay of the new game while I'm at work?
noproblem
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom161 Posts
April 05 2011 02:19 GMT
#166
Holy in depth batman, nice job!
(╯°□°)╯︵ du
gogogadgetflow
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2583 Posts
April 05 2011 02:22 GMT
#167
On April 05 2011 11:00 bloodorc44 wrote:
Show nested quote +
You know, I play video games for a profession as well. I work for Microsoft as a balance tester for the new Age of Empires game coming out, called Age of Empires Online.


Can we get a confirmation on this? I absolutely adore the AoE series, and was crushed when Ensemble Studios split up.


Don't get your hopes up kiddo. It is going to be more like farmville than anything. It's an affront to the greatness that is AoE that it will bear the same name.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
April 05 2011 02:25 GMT
#168
Excellent write up. Why cant there be great authors that main race Terran or Zerg!
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
TheAlchemist89
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
160 Posts
April 05 2011 02:25 GMT
#169
This is one of the best articles on improving at SC2 that I've seen. I've now got the mission to put this stuff into practice! Thanks for the really thoughtful post and the really great strategy posts you've been providing, you are a definite asset to this community, hope you get the proper credit for it.

Cheers
Nazza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1654 Posts
April 05 2011 02:29 GMT
#170
Awesome. It's like Ver's guide but for SC2.
No one ever remembers second place, eh? eh? GIVE ME COMMAND
RebelMusic
Profile Joined January 2011
United States66 Posts
April 05 2011 02:34 GMT
#171
awesome read, thanks for posting.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
GutsSC2
Profile Joined October 2010
United States45 Posts
April 05 2011 02:40 GMT
#172
Hoooly cow man.

I've been wanting to try and put a guide of some sort together but folks like you blow anything I could do out of the water.

Great job, I'll give it a thorough read soon.
Hnnnng
Arnfasta
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States183 Posts
April 05 2011 02:44 GMT
#173
Absoolutely fantastic Cecil, thanks so much. I've read through it once, but this is definitely something I'll refer back to to reorient my approach as I try to take my game to the next level. Wonderful job!
nosliw
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2716 Posts
April 05 2011 02:47 GMT
#174
OMG..... This guide is so good. Thanks for putting the effort into it.
Dhalphir
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia1305 Posts
April 05 2011 02:47 GMT
#175
I just realised I hadn't posted yet.

Love this writeup.

Will be reading several times!!

Supporting TypeII Gaming - www.typeii.net - TypeReaL, TypePhoeNix, TypeSuN, TypeDBS!!
hitman133
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1425 Posts
April 05 2011 02:53 GMT
#176
Thanks for the hotkey idea very much
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
April 05 2011 02:56 GMT
#177
Thanks for again brightening the lights on Starcraft 2 Strategy discussion.

I was lucky enough to learn a lot of the stuff mentioned here from Korean PC Bangs in the SoCal area and my knowlege of RTS from Age of Empires II. If I had lacked both of those, this would probably be my first look into how to become a pro =)

KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK. And if you need any midmaster PvP, send me a PM =)
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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rfoster
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1005 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-05 02:59:55
April 05 2011 02:57 GMT
#178
On April 05 2011 11:03 CecilSunkure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2011 11:00 bloodorc44 wrote:
You know, I play video games for a profession as well. I work for Microsoft as a balance tester for the new Age of Empires game coming out, called Age of Empires Online.


Can we get a confirmation on this? I absolutely adore the AoE series, and was crushed when Ensemble Studios split up.

Confirmation? How about when the Non-Disclosure Agreement is lifted from Beta I start streaming gameplay of the new game while I'm at work?


dude how did you land such a nice job while in high school theres no good work for kids here

forgot to mention how much i love the guide. A lot of times I get so obsessed with winning and ladder score I let it cloud my judgment, and what you said about how you shouldn't care about winning is so true
Phant
Profile Joined August 2010
United States737 Posts
April 05 2011 03:18 GMT
#179
Great guide! I'll have to bookmark this for later.

One thing I would like to suggest (just something I do) is that in the early game when you don't have too many units, to still use 3 hotkeys in the following setup.

1, all of your units
2. melee units.
3. ranged units.

When I do this i can easily select my entire army with 1 and move them around, then during combat you can easily position your army, and retreat with just 1-> right click. It's pretty minor, but I think it can be helpful at times during early aggression. It also makes focus firing a little easier once you have your army in a desired position.
CecilSunkure
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2829 Posts
April 05 2011 03:21 GMT
#180
On April 05 2011 12:18 phant wrote:
Great guide! I'll have to bookmark this for later.

One thing I would like to suggest (just something I do) is that in the early game when you don't have too many units, to still use 3 hotkeys in the following setup.

1, all of your units
2. melee units.
3. ranged units.

When I do this i can easily select my entire army with 1 and move them around, then during combat you can easily position your army, and retreat with just 1-> right click. It's pretty minor, but I think it can be helpful at times during early aggression. It also makes focus firing a little easier once you have your army in a desired position.

I'd say it's better just skip keeping them all on one hotkey to get used to using two. That's what I do, even with my first Zealot/Stalker.
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