EPTOn August 06 2011 04:54 Vul wrote:
What's the tasteless build?
What's the tasteless build?
It's a joke.
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Aletheia27
United States267 Posts
It's a joke. | ||
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Vul
United States685 Posts
Nevermind, I couldn't find it here but I found it on reddit. I kept hearing them joke about it but wasn't sure where it came from. Apparently originally it was 1-1-1 raven build but now it's a joke, thanks! | ||
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Soluhwin
United States1287 Posts
On August 06 2011 04:37 Gwaltgw wrote: How is a 3 gate sentry expand better than a forge fe in pvz? I'd say it isn't but some people would disagree with me. Some people prefer the ability to put on aggression faster, with the drawback of a worse economy behind it I guess. I personally just believe that gate first builds make the match-up more coin-flippy. | ||
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GuardianEU
Netherlands488 Posts
And how would one go about getting there? I've read Plexa's thread but it's pretty old and possibly outdated. | ||
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SpaNkinG
Turkey89 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25563 Posts
On August 06 2011 07:22 SpaNkinG wrote: which graphix setting i have to improve to see forcefields better? This seems like something you could test yourself-- but what gfx settings do you currently have? An easy way to test this is to make a quick replay with a forcefield, then change your gfx, then load the replay, to figure out what works best for you and your monitor. Things that probably affect it: Anti-Aliasing, 3d/effects, general graphics, textures. Might be a tech support question. | ||
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Soluhwin
United States1287 Posts
On August 06 2011 07:13 GuardianEU wrote: Is muta ling a viable main style of play in ZvP these days? And how would one go about getting there? I've read Plexa's thread but it's pretty old and possibly outdated. Muta ling is definitely still an option. With protoss players learning optimized two base agression, however, it is much more difficult to safely open into and still be effective. You want to go for the spire in a situation where you know you are safe, particularly from a stalker heavy opener from the opponent. The way I do it is do a fast-lair a roach oriented opener while banking gas from 4 geysers, when the lair pops I try to find out how many stalkers my opponent currently has to gauge what kind of 2 base play the protoss is planning on doing. Basically, if I see a high stalker count then I will dump my excess gas into roach upgrades, an infestation pit, and take my third close by when I'm safe with infestors. If I see a low stalker count, I'll start the spire and take a far away third when the mutas pop and I gain map dominance. | ||
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SpaNkinG
Turkey89 Posts
On August 06 2011 07:40 Blazinghand wrote: This seems like something you could test yourself-- but what gfx settings do you currently have? An easy way to test this is to make a quick replay with a forcefield, then change your gfx, then load the replay, to figure out what works best for you and your monitor. Things that probably affect it: Anti-Aliasing, 3d/effects, general graphics, textures. Might be a tech support question. yea but it would take ages... so i asked here fast i have evryhting on low except models are high | ||
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constantqt
176 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25563 Posts
On August 06 2011 08:48 constantqt wrote: how to tell scv to get into bunker but not repair it? select the bunker and right-click the scv-- this issues a "load" command to the bunker which draws the scv into it. | ||
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TheRabidDeer
United States3806 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/yEANT.jpg) Should I have begun immediate production of a roach warren when I saw it coming instead of throwing down a few spines (I didnt get to see the tank until it got to my ramp, was expecting just blue flame + marines)? I used all of my zerglings against this small force and killed.... basically nothing. I lost 67 zerglings and he lost 7 units... the worst part is once he got another tank or two there and had his hellions/marines in front and i basically couldnt do anything in such a small choke. | ||
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ApocAlypsE007
Israel1007 Posts
Optimal 4gate in PvP: where it is better to warp first round of units? Beyond the enemy ramp with a proxy pylon hugging the cliff or outside enemy ramp and only the second round inside enemy territory? | ||
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pezzaperry
142 Posts
On August 06 2011 18:53 ApocAlypsE007 wrote: I have a short question: Optimal 4gate in PvP: where it is better to warp first round of units? Beyond the enemy ramp with a proxy pylon hugging the cliff or outside enemy ramp and only the second round inside enemy territory? If they're 4gating it depends on the timing, if you macrod better/quicker 4gate play then you should warp inside because you will have unit advantage.. If they are not 4gating then I would say 100% of the time in their base is better. | ||
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SpaNkinG
Turkey89 Posts
On August 06 2011 13:57 TheRabidDeer wrote: What, as a zerg, can you do in this situation? Should I have begun immediate production of a roach warren when I saw it coming instead of throwing down a few spines (I didnt get to see the tank until it got to my ramp, was expecting just blue flame + marines)? I used all of my zerglings against this small force and killed.... basically nothing. I lost 67 zerglings and he lost 7 units... the worst part is once he got another tank or two there and had his hellions/marines in front and i basically couldnt do anything in such a small choke. if you first surround and then attack your lings should clean this up EASILY, then u have 2 spines which give you little more time for more lings! | ||
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Sporadic44
United States533 Posts
On August 06 2011 13:57 TheRabidDeer wrote: What, as a zerg, can you do in this situation? Should I have begun immediate production of a roach warren when I saw it coming instead of throwing down a few spines (I didnt get to see the tank until it got to my ramp, was expecting just blue flame + marines)? I used all of my zerglings against this small force and killed.... basically nothing. I lost 67 zerglings and he lost 7 units... the worst part is once he got another tank or two there and had his hellions/marines in front and i basically couldnt do anything in such a small choke. You dont have the production tab up, but i assume all those eggs have lings in them. You should have destroyed that push honestly. You must have ran right into that the moment after this screen was taken. Remember as zerg on the defensive you benefit greatly from stalling. I would have pulled all those lings back behind the spines, when he stopped advancing with hellions, i wouldve uprooted the spines and moved them forward and gone in. It looks like your macros decent, when you lose an engagement like this observe how you controlled your army. | ||
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Garpetun
Sweden6 Posts
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tuestresfat
2555 Posts
On August 06 2011 21:37 Garpetun wrote: How do you scout a 1base tank/marine/banshee/(sometimes 1raven) in TvP, and what is the proper response if I'm 3gate expanding with a big sentry count? There are quite a few variants of how to open with this (mainly up to the point where your scouting probe dies), some players will open with Marine -> Tech Lab -> Marauder on one gas till your scout dies, making it impossible for your probe to confirm that he is not going for bio play, and is actually teching to tank/banshees. Save your scout if you can and leave it outside his base, then poke with your stalker and you should see a very low unit count and most likely a bunker. That will hint at you that he is teching. You need an obs to confirm everything else, but you are eliminating a lot and narrowing the possibilities of his tech path by doing all this. You should do it every game tbh especially if you are having trouble scouting in this match up. Probe scout (try to keep it alive, you can't always but try anyway) -> leave a scout outside his base -> poke with your first Stalker if you are not certain what his build is (or if you opt to delay your observer) -> Observer reveals everything. There have been several long long long threads on the "proper" response to this as protoss, and reading a lot of them I can tell you that there is no general consensus. Some pros chrono out a couple of immortals, some pros fast tech to colossus with no range, some opt to get range, etc. Another problem is there are many variants of this said build, for example they don't even have to get siegetanks to all-in you in this fashion. One thing I will say is that most people agree that if you 3gate expo'ed, you're basically dead. I think your only option if you scout it that late is to try and kill him. Granted it's very possible as he will have a low unit count, depends when you scout it though. | ||
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covetousrat
2109 Posts
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Kambing
United States1176 Posts
On August 07 2011 00:56 covetousrat wrote: Does Metablic Boost (Zergling Upgrade) increase Zergling attack speed? No. It only increases their movement speed: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Metabolic_Boost | ||
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Soluhwin
United States1287 Posts
On August 07 2011 00:56 covetousrat wrote: Does Metablic Boost (Zergling Upgrade) increase Zergling attack speed? No, but Adrenal Glands does. | ||
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