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[R] PvT end game economy / Base trade

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Spoiz
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Denmark22 Posts
August 13 2010 13:23 GMT
#1
Hello TL!

I'm trying to do some organization, so I'm spamming spoilers here. I hope you don't mind.

About me
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I am a 4 month lurker in here, and finally decided to post. I am top 20 diamond player (usually between rank 13-17) playing protoss. I dislike cheesing, and I suck at starcraft II.
Im not playing too much at the moment, mostly just 2-5 games a day, but I did get around 250 games played during the beta. For those who care, my APM is around 100 in the average game.
English is NOT my primary language, but I hope I am able to make myself understandable.


General Problem
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I find myself often losing a late game match vs a Terran when it gets around 25 mins long of a game. I don't know if it because I'm getting tired and losing focus, or if my end-game unit choice is poor, or if macro is too bad, or whatever.Therefore I decided to upload this replay of a game I just played, not because it is special in any way - on the contrary, it's like every PvT I play at the moment.


This particular game
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I feel that I am "containing" him decently, and he has trouble getting the third up, and since I am getting my third up, I could win the game like that. However, I chooses to ignore my army and goes straight for the base trade. When I looked at the replay, I was really in doubt if I made the right move. I mean, when do you EVER win a base trade vs a Terran? But going back to defend, he could already have destroyed half of my base, and dont think I would have been able to win the battle with a big enough advantage to go back to his base and take the game.


What I want from you
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So I guess my questions are;
Should I have went back to base to defend, or was accepting his basetrade proposal the correct move?
Was i being too aggressive, and should have been getting my third up while being defensive, instead of trying to harass with colossi?
What do you notice as the biggest problems in my general play?
The last question can be anything, I just haven't uploaded a replay here before, so any advice you feel I need will be greatly appreciated.


Replay:

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Thanks in advance!
//Spoiz
The greatest pleasure is the joy of understanding.
wxwx
Profile Joined May 2010
527 Posts
August 13 2010 14:03 GMT
#2
top10 diamond here.

I think you outplayed the terran, until the final confrontation. He made so many stupid mistakes.. I think there were 2 instances where the terran could have won the game except he did something stupid.

You did well holding off his marine push. I think it would have been gg if he had 1-2 marauders in the mix. Later on, mid game, you held off another MM push when he chose to kill your nexus instead of army. (his stupid decision)

The final confrontation.. you should chase him while he is running across the map towards your base. Instead, you fell back and waited to warp more units in (maybe you thought he was waiting at the bottom of the ramp to engage). You had an observer at his expo that you could have used to keep an eye on where his army is headed.

harassing with colossi UP a cliff is so risky. any decent terran would scan for observer if something like that happens. It was funny how this terran just sat there and let his gas/scvs die (he had enough energy for 4+ scans lol)
Spoiz
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark22 Posts
August 13 2010 19:48 GMT
#3
Thanks for your response.

In what way did you feel i outplayed him, if he could have won the game several times? A bit confused here

So, you think I should have been going back to defend the base?
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