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Uvantak
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Uruguay1381 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-10 01:30:52
June 23 2014 01:48 GMT
#1
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It is coming! Finally Hossin is coming! And what better way to commemorate the arrival of the new continent than with a new cool swampy map?!

Behold! Chaac Marshes!


Map is published in:
[AM],[EU],[KR],[SEA]


This map is GameHeart ready.


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◙ Three pairs of bridges connect central highgrounds.
◙ No Xel'naga Watch Towers.
◙ Many attack paths across the entire map.
◙ Dropeable high ground in front of the counterclockwise third bases.
◙ Siege tanks can shell away at you natural base from the lowground beware!


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♦ Version 1.3
Added debris at the natural choke to make easier the walling off (my little experiment didn't work this time it seems :/ next time it is!)
Slightly adjusted the high ground so it is not as strong.

♦ Version 1.2
Fixed a small about of pathing issues.
Added Gameheart support
Fixed areas where creep should not spread (underwater to keep your FPS stable)
Expanded the "un-creep-able" areas around doodads that do not have a engulfment model when creeped to keep the overall theme of the map.

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Published.
@Kantuva | Mapmaker | KTVMaps.wordpress.com | Check my profile to see my TL map threads, and you can search for KTV in the Custom Games section to play them.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
June 23 2014 01:52 GMT
#2
Just out of curiosity, is KTV a 1-man team or are there others along with you?

I like this map but, if circle syndrome is still ever an issue, it is in this map. It's also very standard, although it looks as nice as it ever does ^^
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moskonia
Profile Joined January 2011
Israel1448 Posts
June 23 2014 02:03 GMT
#3
Do the bridges retract?

Map looks stunning, with a good layout as well.
Uvantak
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Uruguay1381 Posts
June 23 2014 02:36 GMT
#4
On June 23 2014 10:52 The_Templar wrote:
Just out of curiosity, is KTV a 1-man team or are there others along with you?

It is not a team, it's just a tag, a friend long ago told me that it would be a good idea if all my maps had a tag, so people could find them faster, he was also the one that made me start making maps again after a looong hiatus.

On June 23 2014 10:52 The_Templar wrote:I like this map but, if circle syndrome is still ever an issue, it is in this map. It's also very standard, although it looks as nice as it ever does ^^

I try to avoid the circle syndrome for the most part, but for this map i wanted to play around a bit with it. The map itself is still very splitty tho. I'm worried about SH in the middle and how they could lock down a half of the map very easily, but i still want to see how this map develops, hence why i published it :b

On June 23 2014 11:03 moskonia wrote:
Do the bridges retract?

Map looks stunning, with a good layout as well.

I'd really want to, but the whole trigger thing is pretty hairy, i'll try to work on that next week, i have lots of maps in the works (or re-works! like Xel'naga ashes and the textures of foxtrot) still and try to find the time for all (or at least some) of them is quite hard now days

@Kantuva | Mapmaker | KTVMaps.wordpress.com | Check my profile to see my TL map threads, and you can search for KTV in the Custom Games section to play them.
ChopTheHassan
Profile Joined June 2014
35 Posts
June 23 2014 06:21 GMT
#5
Blink "all-ins" look like they would be really strong on this map. Also, how does creep spread work across those bridges?
HassanChop/
iHirO
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1381 Posts
June 23 2014 07:01 GMT
#6
Great aesthetics as usual!
GraphicsThis is for all you new people: I only have one rule. Everyone fights. No one quits. You don't do your job, I'll shoot you myself. You get me?
IeZaeL
Profile Joined July 2012
Italy991 Posts
June 23 2014 10:28 GMT
#7
how can you be so good T-T.
Author of Coda and Eastwatch.
Uvantak
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Uruguay1381 Posts
June 23 2014 16:17 GMT
#8
On June 23 2014 15:21 ChopTheHassan wrote:
Blink "all-ins" look like they would be really strong on this map.

They are certainty stronger than in other of my maps that's true, but the main is not as exposed as you may think, which makes the more exposed natural easier to defend, this is is also other of the reasons why i wanted to publish this particular map, because the map itself is clearly not on heavy rain or yeonsu levels of main exposition, but it doesn't completely denies blink all ins either. I want to see what happens.

On June 23 2014 15:21 ChopTheHassan wrote:
Also, how does creep spread work across those bridges?

The bridges can't be engulfed by creep nor constructed upon, so no creep across the bridges, i don't want zerg to be able to control the middle as easily, because the layout can be very SH friendly once the players have taken their fourths in a clockwise fashion and if allow creep to be spread with ease i'll end up with a recipe for failure.

Glad you guys liked the map, i'm always insecure when publishing because i can't stop seeing my own flaws in the maps i make, but slowly and surely i'm fixing them :b

Guys also, new version! fixed quite a bit of issues with the creep where it would not spread to areas where it should and vice versa, i have also added Gameheart support to it and fixed some minor pathing issues, if any of you find a bug regarding creep or pathing let me know and i'll fix it asap.

On June 23 2014 19:28 IeZaeL wrote:
how can you be so good T-T.

Idem T-T.
@Kantuva | Mapmaker | KTVMaps.wordpress.com | Check my profile to see my TL map threads, and you can search for KTV in the Custom Games section to play them.
Sholip
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
Hungary422 Posts
June 23 2014 19:21 GMT
#9
This map is amazing! It's one of the best ones I have seen in a while, that's for sure.
The layout with that central high ground is really nice and unique, reminds me a bit of Cloud Kingdom. The aesthetics are beautiful as always.
I agree that Blink is not excessively strong on this map, but it does allow for Blink play, which is nice I think. I don't know if it was a deliberate decision to make the bridge "creep-resistant" or it was necessary for some reason, but I don't think creep there would favour swarm hosts that much. In fact, I would say the layout itself doesn't really give the SH player an edge, since there are a lot of possible attack paths to circumvent them.
Anyway, I would be really happy to see this map in the pool some time soon
"A hero is no braver than an ordinary man, but he is brave five minutes longer. Also, Zest is best." – Ralph Waldo Emerson
IeZaeL
Profile Joined July 2012
Italy991 Posts
June 23 2014 22:06 GMT
#10
Inb4 kantuva gonna make entire ladder map pool. Calling it.
Author of Coda and Eastwatch.
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
June 23 2014 22:54 GMT
#11
On June 24 2014 07:06 IeZaeL wrote:
Inb4 kantuva gonna make entire ladder map pool. Calling it.

Dude.

Anyway, fog looks really strong, after seeing the overview I think it should be a bit weaker somehow.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
Pino
Profile Joined June 2013
1032 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-24 08:30:26
June 24 2014 08:28 GMT
#12
Dude if neither foxtrot nor kamala make it to the ladder i'm going nuts. Once again, cool map from you . I really like all these large ramps in the middle, and even though i feel it can be splitty, i think there are too much pathways for it to be op for SH
Universum
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada192 Posts
June 24 2014 12:01 GMT
#13
Really Really nice !
You often learn more from losing than winning. Don't rage, it's a game!
Uvantak
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Uruguay1381 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-24 22:16:41
June 24 2014 22:14 GMT
#14
On June 24 2014 07:54 NewSunshine wrote:Anyway, fog looks really strong, after seeing the overview I think it should be a bit weaker somehow.

It is not as strong in-game, in the screenshots the angle is quite slanted compared to the in-game camera, so don't worry much about it :b
@Kantuva | Mapmaker | KTVMaps.wordpress.com | Check my profile to see my TL map threads, and you can search for KTV in the Custom Games section to play them.
Uvantak
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Uruguay1381 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-10 02:34:47
July 10 2014 01:48 GMT
#15
Changes arriving! Only two this time, smallish but juicy.
I added debris at the natural choke to make easier the walling off (my little experiment didn't work this time it seems :/ next time it is!), and slightly adjusted the high ground so it is not as strong. That's it, the map is uploaded to the four regions, it has gameheart attached and it's ready to be played, Enjoy.
@Kantuva | Mapmaker | KTVMaps.wordpress.com | Check my profile to see my TL map threads, and you can search for KTV in the Custom Games section to play them.
Zode
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada297 Posts
July 11 2014 00:46 GMT
#16
Is this a grassy versions of cloud kingdom? Aside from some high/low ground changes.
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
July 11 2014 02:10 GMT
#17
Um, not at all.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
Uvantak
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Uruguay1381 Posts
July 11 2014 02:14 GMT
#18
On July 11 2014 09:46 Zode wrote:
Is this a grassy versions of cloud kingdom? Aside from some high/low ground changes.

Cloud Kingdom? Other than the central highground and the corner bases the map does not have similarities with CK, guys i really want to know how do you come up with these similarities, that way i can stay the fuck away ^^
@Kantuva | Mapmaker | KTVMaps.wordpress.com | Check my profile to see my TL map threads, and you can search for KTV in the Custom Games section to play them.
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-11 03:43:20
July 11 2014 03:41 GMT
#19
On July 11 2014 11:14 Uvantak wrote:
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On July 11 2014 09:46 Zode wrote:
Is this a grassy versions of cloud kingdom? Aside from some high/low ground changes.

Cloud Kingdom? Other than the central highground and the corner bases the map does not have similarities with CK, guys i really want to know how do you come up with these similarities, that way i can stay the fuck away ^^

I won't say to stay away from anything Cloud Kingdom does - the map was incredibly successful - just don't go into a map intending to lift things out of it, which you don't do as it is. People will say what they want, all you have to do with your maps - or any art really - is just be sincere. If something reminds someone of something else, so be it, but it should be clear that it came from you. That's all that matters.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
Zode
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada297 Posts
July 11 2014 23:50 GMT
#20
On July 11 2014 11:14 Uvantak wrote:
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On July 11 2014 09:46 Zode wrote:
Is this a grassy versions of cloud kingdom? Aside from some high/low ground changes.

Cloud Kingdom? Other than the central highground and the corner bases the map does not have similarities with CK, guys i really want to know how do you come up with these similarities, that way i can stay the fuck away ^^


Most of the base positions are very similar to cloud kingdom, and the central high ground included seperating it all too. sure the 3rd is low ground compared ot high ground in cloud but honestly this map looks alot like cloud minus a few high/low ground differences like I originally said.
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