• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 20:22
CET 02:22
KST 10:22
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10
Community News
[BSL21] Ro.16 Group Stage (C->B->A->D)4Weekly Cups (Nov 17-23): Solar, MaxPax, Clem win2RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket13Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge2[TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation14
StarCraft 2
General
When will we find out if there are more tournament Weekly Cups (Nov 17-23): Solar, MaxPax, Clem win SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket
Tourneys
Tenacious Turtle Tussle [Alpha Pro Series] Nice vs Cure RSL Revival: Season 3 $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 501 Price of Progress Mutation # 500 Fright night Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death
Brood War
General
Which season is the best in ASL? [BSL21] Ro.16 Group Stage (C->B->A->D) Data analysis on 70 million replays FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle soO on: FanTaSy's Potential Return to StarCraft
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] RO16 Tie Breaker - Group B - Sun 21:00 CET [BSL21] GosuLeague T1 Ro16 - Tue & Thu 22:00 CET [BSL21] RO16 Tie Breaker - Group A - Sat 21:00 CET
Strategy
Game Theory for Starcraft How to stay on top of macro? Current Meta PvZ map balance
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason The Perfect Game Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games?
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Where to ask questions and add stream? The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
The Health Impact of Joining…
TrAiDoS
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1998 users

Trying to import latest ladder maps...

Forum Index > SC2 Maps & Custom Games
Post a Reply
nomufftotuff
Profile Joined May 2013
16 Posts
December 13 2013 07:38 GMT
#1
Hey all!

I was just trying to load the latest editions of the laddder maps (post patch) in order to familiarize myself with some of the changes (i was wondering how they merged the upgrades for terran together).

However, It seems I cannot upload a version of say-Derelict watcher past the 1.0 (launch version)

Any ideas? I've tried to manually look for updates and change dependencies..

Thanks!
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
December 13 2013 08:11 GMT
#2
There are a few misconceptions present in what you're trying to do. To begin with, melee maps don't have balance data imbued into them, the dependencies they use tell them what balance they're supposed to have as they're supposed to have it. Simply put, the balance and the maps are separate, opening a melee map to look at balance changes won't yield anything - the exception perhaps being a balance test map.

Also, when you upload a map yourself, it's treated as a new entity, and the first publishing will either be version 1.0 or 0.1. It really doesn't affect anything, and anything you publish will have current balance - but again, you won't find it in the map itself.

As for how the upgrades were "combined", they probably just deleted one, and modified the other to include the other upgrade's effects. As for the triggers that do this, I don't know shit, but otherwise I've shared what I know.

Hope this helps.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
nomufftotuff
Profile Joined May 2013
16 Posts
December 13 2013 08:23 GMT
#3
Thanks

So how does one go about editing the data that was put in by a prior patch? For instance, Let's say I wanted to add damage to the siege tank or whatever. Would the discrepancies I use override them? Would they supplement those change I make?

Basically, how could I "add" to the recent changes?

Thanks for your time :D/
Gfire
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1699 Posts
December 13 2013 09:09 GMT
#4
Yeah anything you change on your map should override whatever dependencies the map has (whether automatic or manual dependencies afaik.)
all's fair in love and melodies
sgtnoobkilla
Profile Joined July 2012
Australia249 Posts
December 13 2013 09:20 GMT
#5
Changes that you make to your mod (aka dependency) take priority over default data. This means that when you import your mod into a map, it will override any default values used by other dependencies in the mod.


So for example:
You created a new mod, and with this new mod you're using SwarmMulti.sc2mod as your dependency. Now you edit the Siege Tank's damage effect. Your mod will no longer use SwarmMulti.sc2mod's Siege Tank damage effect and use your value instead. When you import your mod as a dependency into a custom map, it will override the Siege Tank damage effect value already in the map (and any other dependency's data values).
Don't play with your food unless it plays with you first.
Fishgle
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2174 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-13 12:30:47
December 13 2013 12:29 GMT
#6
it's pretty easy, just go into the data editor -> Upgrades -> [upgrade name] -> (basic) Upgrade Effects

and just add/subtract from there.

edit: this is after loading the standard melee mod, ofc. Or a ladder map which is using it.
aka ChillyGonzalo / GnozL
nomufftotuff
Profile Joined May 2013
16 Posts
December 13 2013 18:44 GMT
#7
Thanks!

I didn't think that my changes were supplemented by the dependencies, i always assumed they were overridden regradless.

many thanks!
enord
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
France258 Posts
December 13 2013 18:50 GMT
#8
so.. how is the op supose to understand wich is which ? sorry this brings me back to when i did threads such as this one instead of using the simple questions thread.. and got the same amount of varying responses ; while being ignored by people with good answers (this "presumably" to get posters to comply)
sorry, nostalgia is a powerful agent

so, if i was answering in the simple questions' thread i would type:
each blizz map has a data editor that should/can be in synch with the latest patch.. but that is not the case all the time

when you download a blizzard map, the map you will have is for a "visit" mode only
until you change something in said map (no need to confuse op with mod/map since it is irrelevant here)

of course you cannot change a blizz map and replace the original on bnet (fun idea)

once you've change anything in said map .. you have to record it on your hard drive and this will become an "x" version that you can do what you want with (well some of what you want)

as for checking patches in the downloaded maps .. there is no such possibility available

why? because the map you are downloading is not the latest for sure

as with all of its ladder maps, the updating takes place after the patch .. at blizzard's leisure

the data actualy used in play on bnet is indeed carried by "dependencies" which come and change the data present in the data editor of the map to insure it is up to date

confused ? i'm not done yet though.. [at best, the reader sighs at this point]

one also needs to have a patched editor to insure the latest information (latest patch) to be featured in galaxy, and while it is done solely by blizz (nothing seems available to "update")
..there is no guarantee that this has been done on yours ..

if you really want to do all you can, go through "normal" complete patching in sc2 (which "should"update your editor)
and then upload a map on bnet with your account, .. those are the bases for what you want

however, again: blizzard disclaimer: blizzard has to update its "in house dependencies" that supersede the data present in the map you downloaded from them, they cannot update the accessible data as often/quickly as they do the dependencies, since they do not NEED to do it.. not to mention they do not support the editor)

tldr: should really learn to appreciate reading
make / have a good tl .. ohhh and i want my icon back :°D
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
00:00
Biweekly #36
CranKy Ducklings131
davetesta33
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft397
elazer 167
ProTech124
Nina 91
SortOf 44
CosmosSc2 38
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 5181
Artosis 734
ggaemo 253
Aegong 45
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm0
Counter-Strike
Coldzera 869
Fnx 316
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox886
Other Games
tarik_tv6439
shahzam666
JimRising 606
Day[9].tv576
C9.Mang0295
ViBE155
WinterStarcraft149
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick558
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream162
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• HeavenSC 34
• Adnapsc2 8
• intothetv
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• IndyKCrew
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• 80smullet 14
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21364
League of Legends
• Doublelift5132
• Rush127
Other Games
• imaqtpie1372
• Scarra871
• Day9tv576
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
8h 38m
Replay Cast
21h 38m
OSC
1d 15h
LAN Event
1d 16h
Replay Cast
1d 21h
Replay Cast
2 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
Wardi Open
4 days
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
StarCraft2.fi
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Wardi Open
5 days
StarCraft2.fi
5 days
Wardi Open
6 days
StarCraft2.fi
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

SOOP Univ League 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
Slon Tour Season 2
META Madness #9
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.