EPT[D] Ads/Logos in Melee Maps?
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Handfromabov
United States103 Posts
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Ragoo
Germany2773 Posts
On the other hand, why would mapmakers do anything for leagues. Leagues certainly don't do anything for mapmakers (still use the same map pool as 1 year ago). | ||
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RFDaemoniac
United States544 Posts
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lefix
Germany1082 Posts
Edit: But then again, there are several Maps with ads on their loading screens already. | ||
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Handfromabov
United States103 Posts
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Samro225am
Germany982 Posts
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Fatam
1986 Posts
Agree w/ RF, although if they really wanted their logo(s) on there, they could get someone to edit their versions of the standard maps. But they probably don't even have anyone that can do that (even though it's incredibly easy) which is really sad. Mapmaking is so undervalued by the tournaments. | ||
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EatThePath
United States3943 Posts
On October 17 2012 01:18 Handfromabov wrote: my reason for asking is I run the URTL a new team league we are mid season right now. I am planning out season 2 and want to add 3 maps cause the map pool is getting stagnant. I really liked what dota 2 has done with adding the team logo or league logo in it at least. If you don't feel comfortable choosing from the many available worthy community maps, you could easily put together a committee of qualified mappers/critics who could translate your goals into 3 good maps by hearing your wants and sorting through the options. | ||
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EatThePath
United States3943 Posts
On October 17 2012 00:50 lefix wrote: Unfortunately, you are not allowed to use the game itself for advertising. That's why so far only casting overlays have been used. If a map was to become popular while having ingame ads in it, Blizzard would probably take action against you. Edit: But then again, there are several Maps with ads on their loading screens already. Blizzard owns every map you upload, according to the EULA, so we should feel free to do whatever we want until they themselves do something about it (they being the supposed owners). According to the logic of the EULA creators are completely divorced from the creation, so how can they be responsible for it? + Show Spoiler [Btw this is absurd] + The last part of the all caps... ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Fy0ac.png) What does that mean...?? I know it's the usual EULA overblown language that might not actually mean anything, but still. If they request that you grant them ownership of a map, you have to? But you already did...? wtf. | ||
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lefix
Germany1082 Posts
2. Additional License Limitations. The license granted to you in Section 1 above is subject to the limitations set forth in Sections 1 and 2 (collectively, the “License Limitations”). Any use of the Game in violation of the License Limitations will be regarded as an infringement of Blizzard’s copyrights in and to the Game. You agree that you will not, under any circumstances: ... C. Exploit the Game or any of its parts for any commercial purpose without Blizzard’s express permission, with the sole exception that you may use the Game, or copies of the Game, on the Service at a cyber cafe, computer gaming center or any other location based site; Pretty much means no advertising. In fact, in the german version of the EULA, it explicitly says so 2. Zusätzliche Lizenzbeschränkungen. Die Ihnen gemäß Artikel 1 gewährte Lizenz unterliegt den in den Artikeln 1 und 2 festgelegten Beschränkungen (insgesamt die „Lizenzbeschränkungen“). Jedwede Nutzung des Service oder eines Spiels, die gegen die Lizenzbeschränkungen verstößt, gilt als Verstoß gegen die Urheberrechte von Blizzard an dem und in Bezug auf den Service und/oder das Spiel. Sie verpflichten sich dazu, unter keinen Umständen: ...2.2 den Service, ein Spiel oder einen beliebigen Teil davon zu gewerblichen Zwecken zu nutzen, einschließlich, jedoch nicht darauf beschränkt, ... (b) um Werbeanzeigen oder sonstige Werbung zu verbreiten oder zu ermöglichen; Rough translation of the last part: " (b) to display ads or any other advertising" | ||
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Randomaccount#77123
United States5003 Posts
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EatThePath
United States3943 Posts
What I meant was, as usual with EULAs, the internal logic is contradictory. And the EULA has little to do with legality. If no one but Blizzard has rights to a map, how can it be infringing Blizzard's rights? =\ | ||
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Fatam
1986 Posts
Even if they enforced it, it's not like you're taking a risk doing it. They would just be like "take the logo off" and you would have to take it off, it wouldn't be like you'd get in actual legal trouble. | ||
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Handfromabov
United States103 Posts
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lefix
Germany1082 Posts
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EatThePath
United States3943 Posts
On October 17 2012 08:05 Handfromabov wrote: i mean i would love to put our sponsors in it but i mean just to get the League Logo in it and a new map would be pretty amazing. Well that's eminently doable, what's more it's acceptable. | ||
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Semmo
Korea (South)627 Posts
It's entirely possible, and not particularly hard to do so either. | ||
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Handfromabov
United States103 Posts
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Callynn
Netherlands917 Posts
Am I the only one who feels that the decals on buildings not being commercial for a team or their sponsor is a missed opportunity? | ||
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Randomaccount#77123
United States5003 Posts
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EatThePath
United States3943 Posts
On October 17 2012 21:50 Callynn wrote: I don't believe that maps should be displaying logo's, but rather the buildings or units of the player. Am I the only one who feels that the decals on buildings not being commercial for a team or their sponsor is a missed opportunity? Absolutely about team and sponsor logos. But why shouldn't a map display the logo of the tournament that's using it? (Which the GSL does already.) | ||
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RFDaemoniac
United States544 Posts
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EatThePath
United States3943 Posts
On October 18 2012 01:14 RFDaemoniac wrote: I think if a map is made for a specific tournament that makes much more sense, but I also agree that having 10 versions of a map is confusing and bad for map popularity (i.e. getting to the top of the custom games list) I agree there, but this is easily solved. If tournaments want to use an in-house version of the map with their logo, they don't have to name it so that it will conflict with the other versions on bnet. It can be a random code if they want, doesn't really matter since the admins host the maps anyway. Calling something NASL Antiga Shipyard only makes sense if the map itself is altered, like they did. Having different versions of maps like that is a different issue, and they need it to be named NASL Antiga so that players can search for it to practice on it. Changing a decal logo in the middle of the map doesn't affect the players in any way and then the tournament map can be called "banana8tuy7z3" and is only used when hosted by that tournament, and no one cares or knows the map file is called banana. | ||
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