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ArcticRaven
France1406 Posts
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tomsKa
United States39 Posts
Somehow, there were a ton of mirror match ups in the tournament. Also, some maps were played significantly more than others. Bracket improvements will have to be made for the next tournament. Braxis IX 6 games played TvZ 2-1 ZvP 2-1 Beelzebub 11 games played TvZ 1-1 PvT 2-1 ZvP 3-3 Quarantine Zone 9 games played TvZ 2-1 PvT 0-2 ZvP 2-2 Aiur Refuge 7 games played TvZ 2-1 PvT 0-1 ZvP 3-0 Silver Sands 6 games played TvZ 2-1 ZvP 2-1 Hurricane Harbor 11 games played TvZ 1-3 ZvP 4-3 Colonial II 2 games played  TvZ 2-0 Odin 9 games played TvZ 1-0 PvT 0-1 ZvP 5-0 There were very few Terrans in the tournament. | ||
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a176
Canada6688 Posts
anyways thanks for doing this. hopefully the start of something good. | ||
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tomsKa
United States39 Posts
On July 24 2012 01:03 a176 wrote: after having watched some of the casts, the biggest issue was your lack of preparedness. constant issues with streaming, audio, etc. it would be prudent to have everything working before you start broadcasting. also, for the casting, i think a style that reflects more commentary on the maps themselves would be great, considering the nature of the tournament. anyways thanks for doing this. hopefully the start of something good. The issue is that neither velo nor I (and the other admins) have the upload bandwidth to stream. Typically the casts are done with a Skype call of the casters, or just whoever can do the stream. If someone could consistently stream this so we don't have to work out these issues each week it would be much appreciated. As for the casting, I agree completely. The brackets need improvement as well. In the future I hope to set the bracket up to minimize mirror match ups and also to use the maps more evenly so that all the mapmakers get good data from this. This is about them, after all. | ||
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Technoverlord
36 Posts
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tomsKa
United States39 Posts
On July 24 2012 05:11 Technoverlord wrote: Rife is going to cast, tomsKa. Velo talked to him last night. Stream, or cast? | ||
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Technoverlord
36 Posts
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MarcusRife
343 Posts
On July 24 2012 05:11 Technoverlord wrote: Rife is going to cast, tomsKa. Velo talked to him last night. I won't necessarily be able to do it all the time. When I start teaching in the fall I won't have as much time... We will see how that goes. Also I need remember to breath so I don't stammer so much.  Just trying to help where I can. | ||
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Veloh15
United States161 Posts
On July 24 2012 06:54 MarcusRife wrote: I won't necessarily be able to do it all the time. When I start teaching in the fall I won't have as much time... We will see how that goes. Also I need remember to breath so I don't stammer so much. Just trying to help where I can.Help is always appreciated ! | ||
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iamcaustic
Canada1509 Posts
On July 24 2012 01:29 tomsKa wrote: The issue is that neither velo nor I (and the other admins) have the upload bandwidth to stream. Typically the casts are done with a Skype call of the casters, or just whoever can do the stream. If someone could consistently stream this so we don't have to work out these issues each week it would be much appreciated. As for the casting, I agree completely. The brackets need improvement as well. In the future I hope to set the bracket up to minimize mirror match ups and also to use the maps more evenly so that all the mapmakers get good data from this. This is about them, after all. Great to see you guys identifying things to improve. Keep it up! | ||
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Meltage
Germany613 Posts
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tomsKa
United States39 Posts
On July 24 2012 17:53 Meltage wrote: Keep up the good work! Nice with matchup win ratio stats. It's from the final tournament though. I think also the zerg guys in the finals were pretty much better than the others? Which is why one shouldn't read that much into Odin ZvP 5-0 (or any of the stats really, even if it might give a hint) Actually, the stats are from all the tournaments, but the majority of the games on each map were played during one of the tournaments (that's just how the brackets worked out.) | ||
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SigmaFiE
United States333 Posts
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iamcaustic
Canada1509 Posts
On July 24 2012 17:53 Meltage wrote: Keep up the good work! Nice with matchup win ratio stats. It's from the final tournament though. I think also the zerg guys in the finals were pretty much better than the others? Which is why one shouldn't read that much into Odin ZvP 5-0 (or any of the stats really, even if it might give a hint) I personally feel as if it's a bit early to be seriously looking at map win rates to infer anything, anyway. The only one that could be considered troublesome is the stat you point out: Odin ZvP 5-0. Even then, that's only if the trend continues, IMO. | ||
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Fatam
1986 Posts
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iamcaustic
Canada1509 Posts
On July 25 2012 10:05 Fatam wrote: Such a small sample size and there's the chance that the zergs in those 5 games were just much better players than the P. Need at least 15 games to say anything remotely definitive. Yeah, pretty much. | ||
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Veloh15
United States161 Posts
On July 25 2012 01:28 SigmaFiE wrote: Just out of my curiosity -- how are you determining which maps to use? Is there an entry process for individual maps that requires application from the mapper? No we are just going through the maps on Teamliquid. If your map is not there I would suggest making a thread if you haven't already. | ||
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Veloh15
United States161 Posts
On July 25 2012 10:05 Fatam wrote: Such a small sample size and there's the chance that the zergs in those 5 games were just much better players than the P. Need at least 15 games to say anything remotely definitive. One of the big problems was the protosses didn't realize there was a back door to their nat, and didn't wall off metalapolis style. If those games were replayed there would most likely be big difference in win rates. | ||
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Insomni7
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