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Can you comment on your decision for the paths behind the 4ths?
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United States209 Posts
On April 10 2012 06:30 iGrok wrote:
Can you comment on your decision for the paths behind the 4ths?
It was a decision made based on keeping a consistant level of technicality. There was a lot of space leftover there post-bulldozing, so I wanted to keep it a little interesting. I like it as an alternative attack route to the third as well as a place to utilize blink/tanks/infestors to assault the fourth. I could have actually made the fourth even lower than the current low-ground and made the path similar to the xel'naga caverns path, but I decided to go with this version instead.
Ultimately the path doesn't have a huge impact on the play of the map, but there are certainly times when it would be utilized for various sneak attacks.
Edit: Also it reminds me a bit of what was previously back there, a backdoor.
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I love this map! Especially the location of the Xel'naga Towers, how they are accessible from both sections of high ground, but also block pathing.
I really liked some of the key concepts on Crossfire, that are still here in this map. The natural is still vulnerable to air harassment, and there are still two middle expansions. Overall, the map is still very technical like the original was. You've also added things that I think improve the map immensely. The low ground path behind the fourth is a really nice touch.
I don't see many line of sight blockers. Is there a specific reason why they were not used that people should know about?
I would absolutely love to see this in future events. It definitely deserves a spot in any map pool in my opinion!
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It certainly LOOKS better than Crossfire (not aesthetically atm). The slightly larger chokes all around should definitely help deal with mobility issues.
What you should do with this map is touch up the aesthetics as much as possible along with fixing any glaring imbalance issues and submit it to the MotM April. Given it's layout is very similar to Crossfire there's a decent chance you'd get some sort of response good or bad.
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United States209 Posts
Word up Antares, thank you. I tried to find places to use Los blockers, but ultimately nothing felt like a strong choice.
On April 10 2012 10:35 lost_artz wrote:
It certainly LOOKS better than Crossfire (not aesthetically atm). The slightly larger chokes all around should definitely help deal with mobility issues.
What you should do with this map is touch up the aesthetics as much as possible along with fixing any glaring imbalance issues and submit it to the MotM April. Given it's layout is very similar to Crossfire there's a decent chance you'd get some sort of response good or bad.
I'd be curious as to what you believe needs to be touched up aesthetically, i'm fairly happy with how the map looks and the response to the aesthetics seems to be overwhelming positive, but yes I intend to submit this map to motm so I can beat out Archvile this time. 
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I'm with artz. Its so grey! Maybe if the fog was a different color... just something to break up the monotony would be nice.
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If Crossfire and Could Kingdom had a child this map will be it...
Looks amazing would be awesome to see it in tournaments.
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On April 10 2012 11:15 iGrok wrote:
I'm with artz. Its so grey! Maybe if the fog was a different color... just something to break up the monotony would be nice.
I am in agreement too. The details in the aesthetics are super awesome but... it is missing something. It is really all one dark texture- the dirt/rocks don't seperate that well from the man-made textures aside from the decals imo. I think you could change some of the textures to make it more bright and distinctive. Maybe a silver highground texture and some different organic styles?
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To comment on the aesthetics, even in the detail shots the map looks extraordinarily black and white/grey with a hint of green sticking out from time to time. I definitely agree that a wider color scheme would help a lot here.
The layout looks sick as hell, though
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I would dig some of that purple shakuras rocky texture here... Still, I'd have to see it on stream or something to know if it was too boring as-is.
Layout-wise, it seems great. This design is so cool, I really hated to see it disappear with crossfire. Your version is very nice. It seems like the issues with Crossfire have been fixed, although I miss the backdoor.
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Can you pull the mineral line at the 4th one square up and over to make more room behind the minerals? I know you want shooting from below, but it's a ridiculous marine drop bunker the way you have it now. Alternatively you can move the mineral patches around to make more holes for melee units to chase out drops.
Other than that this looks sexy as hell.
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United States209 Posts
Some changes en route, stay tuned.
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make it more colourful and it will be amazing
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On April 10 2012 10:55 wrl wrote:Word up Antares, thank you. I tried to find places to use Los blockers, but ultimately nothing felt like a strong choice. Show nested quote +On April 10 2012 10:35 lost_artz wrote:
It certainly LOOKS better than Crossfire (not aesthetically atm). The slightly larger chokes all around should definitely help deal with mobility issues.
What you should do with this map is touch up the aesthetics as much as possible along with fixing any glaring imbalance issues and submit it to the MotM April. Given it's layout is very similar to Crossfire there's a decent chance you'd get some sort of response good or bad. I'd be curious as to what you believe needs to be touched up aesthetically, i'm fairly happy with how the map looks and the response to the aesthetics seems to be overwhelming positive, but yes I intend to submit this map to motm so I can beat out Archvile this time.
I think monitor summed it up nicely + Show Spoiler + On April 10 2012 11:54 monitor wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2012 11:15 iGrok wrote:
I'm with artz. Its so grey! Maybe if the fog was a different color... just something to break up the monotony would be nice. I am in agreement too. The details in the aesthetics are super awesome but... it is missing something. It is really all one dark texture- the dirt/rocks don't seperate that well from the man-made textures aside from the decals imo. I think you could change some of the textures to make it more bright and distinctive. Maybe a silver highground texture and some different organic styles?
I personally was more so touching on the doodad side of things. Something that could work very well would be adding some of the crystal doodads and re-coloring them to match the green of the protoss doodads that are lining the high-ground areas (if possible) since the green is such a dominate color in this map.
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I like it! Could use some more details as far as aesthetics, but I like crossfire and I like the similarities here as well. Nice job.
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wrl, I think it looks brilliant! The detail shots add depth and feeling to the map. I don't know much about map making but it looks like a fun map to play on, especially as Protoss: it seems suited to Protoss. I also love the green lines, very futuristic and clean cut. I hope we can get that map over in Europe too. Thank you!
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I think a decent first step to livening up the aesthetic would be replacing the castanar tiles with the avernus ones, as they are slightly brighter. There are probably other things you can do, but I don't have it to open in the editor, so I can't say for sure. It looks good, very nicely detailed, but is a bit monotone. Who knows, maybe you're already on it!
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Looks nice. ^^
I like the low 4th because it plays up control of the large platform in front of it.
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