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eTcetRa
Australia822 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/hQTd5.jpg) Map Name oZz Genesis v2.0 Map Bounds: 152x124 Bases: 12 (Two Half-Bases) Published on SEA Aesthetics + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/7kU7M.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/5k5QV.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Hrvyo.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/mwNi1.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/qBLEY.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/jCxU7.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/HBOnI.jpg) Change Log: Hell, too many to list! Check the overviews! + Show Spoiler [Old Version] + Overview: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/o6KXB.jpg) oZz Genesis v1.2 Playable Bounds: 138x118 Bases: 10 (No Golds) Published on SEA Created by eTcetRa (feniXsix on SEA / feniXsix on NA). Close Ups and Details + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/di4ob.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/lAQGR.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/rQH2t.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Q1Nck.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/eAzhP.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/KV2iF.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/AjcLk.jpg) | ||
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AdrianHealey
Belgium480 Posts
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monitor
United States2404 Posts
Blistering Sands but better? I like it, but I think some of the distances between expansions are too small (is the overview picture really 138x118?). The problem is that the fourth expansion is so close to the 3rd/5th expo against the main that they can't be split between players. So really only four base is possible, with occasionally one player trying to take a fifth and either losing or winning soon after. Somehow it would be good to redesign that so it's possible for each player to get up to five bases without being too close to the opponent. | ||
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TibblesEvilCat
United Kingdom766 Posts
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eTcetRa
Australia822 Posts
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a176
Canada6688 Posts
On January 19 2012 10:22 eTcetRa wrote: Very much based on blistering sands but this was built from scratch, only the mains were pasted across. I think you're right about the distances after fourth base I might need to move the bases outward a bit and clean up some of the dead air space while I'm at it. you might want to do more explaining how/why this is different, and better, than blistering sands. | ||
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goal 888
167 Posts
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Meta
United States6225 Posts
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eTcetRa
Australia822 Posts
On January 19 2012 11:09 a176 wrote: you might want to do more explaining how/why this is different, and better, than blistering sands. Oh I don't know, a less impossible third, no super a usable back door, for starters :D Still agree fourths & fifths too close will change it once I get home, and hopefully for the better! | ||
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RumbleBadger
322 Posts
Anyways, yeah I think the map is a little tight in general. I think spreading the bases like suggested will help quite a bit, but in general the map is chokier than most, which makes zerg difficult. But still a solid map with super sold aesthetics. | ||
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WniO
United States2706 Posts
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eTcetRa
Australia822 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/20bBO.jpg) 1: Move the fourth toward the edge of the map a bit, enough to widen the outer attackers ramp going into the third. This will also widen the path between the fourth and the fifth, which is currently a little too tight. 2: Move the third downward towards the corner of the map a little bit to compensate changes made in the natural. 3: Make additional space behind the natural for building, and move the backdoor to the natural toward the back of the expansion. (really not sure if this would be necessary It is either that or I could just extend the map outward from the center making all the attack paths through the middle larger while increaesing the distances between the fourth and fifth bases. As far as it being too similar to blistering sands, this does not bother me. Blistering sands has serious flaws which makes it unplayable and this map fixes almost all of them. | ||
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eTcetRa
Australia822 Posts
New Overview: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ohLGi.jpg) Click Image for large hi-res version. Since the textures are still messy here is a easy-to-view-overview! ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/IGBSg.jpg) Comparison Overview: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/i5OuB.jpg) Click image for large hi-res version. + Show Spoiler [ Change Log] + - Lighting Overhaul (From Ulnar to a customised Mar Sara Night). - Map bounds increased (From 138x118 to 150x120). - Two towers replaced with a single central tower. - New three-quarter in-base natural (7 mineral 1 gas). - Rocks removed from map. + Show Spoiler [Upcoming Changes] + - Complete texture overhaul (might make a custom texture. - New map name. - Reduction in dead space. - More "map features" | ||
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Syphon8
Canada298 Posts
1) If you're going to give a backdoor expo, I would remove the rocks to the 4th base. One attack lane is too few to need to defend for 2.5 bases. 2) Maybe move those rocks to replace the void space between the 3rd and the 5/6. Right now players have to run through a pretty narrow choke to get to it from their own base, while the attacker doesn't. 3) Only keep the LOS blockers at 12 and 6. | ||
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Praetorial
United States4241 Posts
On January 19 2012 10:17 TibblesEvilCat wrote: looks like blistering sands retexture without the backdoor My thoughts exactly when I looked at the map, but it seems to be a seamless improvement. | ||
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-NegativeZero-
United States2141 Posts
Other than that, map looks great, definitely fixes a lot of Blistering Sands' problems. | ||
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Janders
Mexico222 Posts
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Praetorial
United States4241 Posts
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Proko
United States1022 Posts
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eTcetRa
Australia822 Posts
Some changes include: - Middle completely remade. - Late game bases have had the distances between each other incrased. - Third moved to high ground. - Tower replaced by two others. I'm still concerned about the narrow choke between the the out of base natural and the map centre. Oh, and the new map has been updated in the original post. Hope you all like! | ||
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dezi
Germany1536 Posts
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eTcetRa
Australia822 Posts
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Demerzel
23 Posts
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SidianTheBard
United States2474 Posts
That looks so sick. Great job! I'll probably edit this post or post again with my thoughts on the layout a little later. | ||
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Ry-Masta-T
United States478 Posts
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DYEAlabaster
Canada1009 Posts
The problems here are as follows- 1-short nat-third cross map distance 2- getting a fourth (for any race) is almost impossible because of how foreword and open it puts you 3- backdoor bases are generally not a good idea, they create stilted and predictable gameplay That being said, the map is beautiful. It's gorgeous. I just wish people spent as long on balance as on aesthetics :/ | ||
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RumbleBadger
322 Posts
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Meltage
Germany613 Posts
I disliek how there are four bases so close to one another around the middle. Those shoudl be safer and more tucked away. | ||
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PandaZerg
Canada148 Posts
Best map I have seen for a long time! | ||
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moskonia
Israel1448 Posts
Regardless of balance, I just love the looks, it is really awesome. | ||
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