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Seraphim
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States4467 Posts
May 19 2008 04:43 GMT
#1
During NonY vs Gosia Game 3 on Wuthering Heights, Gosia made his hatch into a lair to give it more health. This gave him enough time to save the hatch. Anybody found this really ingenious and creative?

I found it surprising how Artosis and Chill passed it off as another common trick. What do you guys think about it?
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Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
May 19 2008 04:47 GMT
#2
I didn't see the game you're talking about, but it's actually pretty common to lair your nat if it takes damage early game. Did he lair it while it was being attacked or after?
relaxxl
Profile Joined June 2007
Japan78 Posts
May 19 2008 04:47 GMT
#3
ive done it a million times
SkatesSC
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States191 Posts
May 19 2008 04:54 GMT
#4
I know it's nothing unique or "new", but in my opinion nothing compares to Nony's storms so far. He's been pretty insane with his storms.
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Seraphim
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States4467 Posts
May 19 2008 04:57 GMT
#5
Haha ok, that was just the first time I've seen it - I'm a noob haha
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Seraphim
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States4467 Posts
May 19 2008 04:57 GMT
#6
On May 19 2008 13:47 Tadzio00 wrote:
I didn't see the game you're talking about, but it's actually pretty common to lair your nat if it takes damage early game. Did he lair it while it was being attacked or after?


It was his 3rd base and it was being laired during the attack
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IzzyCraft
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4487 Posts
May 19 2008 05:06 GMT
#7
Thats pretty standard its always worth it to save a hatch
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fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
May 19 2008 05:19 GMT
#8
did we even have a PP2007? lol
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Hyperionnn
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Turkey4968 Posts
May 19 2008 05:36 GMT
#9
On May 19 2008 14:19 fusionsdf wrote:
did we even have a PP2007? lol

Yeah, good question, Loa said that it won't be late but it's already a half of the year late. T_T
useLess
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4781 Posts
May 19 2008 05:37 GMT
#10
its just like when people morph their scouting drone onto a gas to replenish its health
Moonlight Shadow
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42653 Posts
May 19 2008 05:38 GMT
#11
On May 19 2008 14:36 Hyperionnn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2008 14:19 fusionsdf wrote:
did we even have a PP2007? lol

Yeah, good question, Loa said that it won't be late but it's already a half of the year late. T_T

Wasn't it released but the movie maker behind it pulled out. The PP is different to the movie celebrating them. PP is just a thing on sclegacy.
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._.
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
1133 Posts
May 19 2008 05:53 GMT
#12
Dinot's build on wuthering is sooo much more worthier.
:D
Deleted User 31060
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
May 19 2008 05:54 GMT
#13
http://www.sclegacy.com//content/pimpest-plays-3/

I don't think it's out yet
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SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21549 Posts
May 19 2008 06:03 GMT
#14
On May 19 2008 14:38 Kwark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2008 14:36 Hyperionnn wrote:
On May 19 2008 14:19 fusionsdf wrote:
did we even have a PP2007? lol

Yeah, good question, Loa said that it won't be late but it's already a half of the year late. T_T

Wasn't it released but the movie maker behind it pulled out. The PP is different to the movie celebrating them. PP is just a thing on sclegacy.

That was PP2006. Last I heard, PP2007 is being headed by Rise.
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SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
May 19 2008 06:11 GMT
#15
How about the offensive Nydus against Flash?
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Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
May 19 2008 06:27 GMT
#16
A little thing is that the hatch does not regain health while being upgraded to lair, so you may want to think it twice if its really low on health
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WingSandrockX
Profile Joined January 2007
Korea (North)1164 Posts
May 19 2008 07:50 GMT
#17
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Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8090 Posts
May 19 2008 08:56 GMT
#18
Man that trick has been around for ages, i dont think its a pimpest play
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WiljushkA
Profile Joined March 2006
Serbia1416 Posts
May 19 2008 09:58 GMT
#19
On May 19 2008 15:27 Cloud wrote:
A little thing is that the hatch does not regain health while being upgraded to lair, so you may want to think it twice if its really low on health

yeah but i think it gets increased armor momentarily, or im just wrong
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True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3422 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-19 10:25:16
May 19 2008 10:24 GMT
#20
You're wrong.

It just gets a HP boost once lair finishes. Nothing pimp about it though, as it's pretty common.
The fact that Paranoid won on Wuthering Heights is more pimp, actually
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
May 19 2008 11:04 GMT
#21
It's a fairly common and really old trick. Some people do it wrong by morphing it while it's still being attacked. That's worse because it stops regenerating hp until it's done.

And about pimpest plays. we're really running out of material. The first few were awesome but now it's getting old. I think it's better not having a movie at all than to have one with below part scenes.

Take the WCG 2007 movie for example. It was awesome. The graphics were really good and such, but the material wasn't all that impressive. I'm afraid the same thing will happen to "forced" pimpest plays.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
WiljushkA
Profile Joined March 2006
Serbia1416 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-19 11:53:53
May 19 2008 11:47 GMT
#22
dinot's build and strat on wuthering were definitely pimpest play material

and maybe even nony's storms on wuthering, man that was insane
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-19 13:29:43
May 19 2008 13:29 GMT
#23
super common.

if anything, hwoever was playing vs flash @ intel classic made a nifty move on game 3 that probably deserves a mention.
Showtime!
Profile Joined November 2007
Canada2938 Posts
May 19 2008 13:49 GMT
#24
You call that a pimpest play? Lmao. The whole we v-tec players have been doing that for years comes to mind here. Point of the matter is you see the pro's doing this many times when they just save an expo to prevent further harass/give them enough time to respond without losing the expo.
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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
May 19 2008 14:56 GMT
#25
close thread -.-

this is so hilariously basic
kyjori
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
371 Posts
May 19 2008 15:03 GMT
#26
i guess we have to wait till half of 2009 to pass before getting PP 07
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
May 19 2008 15:05 GMT
#27
On May 19 2008 22:29 thedeadhaji wrote:
if anything, hwoever was playing vs flash @ intel classic made a nifty move on game 3 that probably deserves a mention.

Yea... that was seriously pimp. Juni almost had a chance of taking down Flash in game 3 with a proxy hatch/nydus.
Caladan
Profile Joined May 2008
Germany1238 Posts
May 19 2008 15:16 GMT
#28
This is oooold. Nothing new at this trick.
Ra.Xor.2
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1784 Posts
May 20 2008 00:14 GMT
#29
if you wanna see a pimpest play, search up most storms ever on youtube. I think it was a an osl game between jangbi and nal_ra on andromeda. I'm sorry I can't link them right now, will later
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LxRogue
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States1415 Posts
May 20 2008 00:29 GMT
#30
On May 19 2008 20:04 CubEdIn wrote:
It's a fairly common and really old trick. Some people do it wrong by morphing it while it's still being attacked. That's worse because it stops regenerating hp until it's done.

And about pimpest plays. we're really running out of material. The first few were awesome but now it's getting old. I think it's better not having a movie at all than to have one with below part scenes.

Take the WCG 2007 movie for example. It was awesome. The graphics were really good and such, but the material wasn't all that impressive. I'm afraid the same thing will happen to "forced" pimpest plays.


Well if you think you can barely save the hatchery, you should morph it asap. The HP recovers very slowly and it won't make more than a couple points difference by the time you've defended/lost the hatch.

If you wait til after you've defended to morph it, then it will be much longer before it becomes a lair, and he has more time to come with another army to finish it.
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
May 20 2008 00:34 GMT
#31
dinot build was very awesome

upgrading a hatch is standard and totally not special, in fact i think you suck hard if you dont
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sappling
Profile Joined April 2008
Germany22 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-20 01:28:56
May 20 2008 01:27 GMT
#32
Juni vs Flash, Intel Classic, Game 3, was Pimpest Plays material imo
http://www.gomtv.net/videos/164
Epic Hatchery/Nydus Canal Action.

edit: oh lol never mind, it was already mentioned :D
sqwert
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States781 Posts
May 20 2008 01:32 GMT
#33
On May 19 2008 14:53 ._. wrote:
Dinot's build on wuthering is sooo much more worthier.


i agree
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Seraphim
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States4467 Posts
May 20 2008 01:32 GMT
#34
Yeah ok - seems simple, but I have never had it happen to me, nor have seen it in replays. Interesting...
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p4fn2w
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
383 Posts
May 20 2008 01:47 GMT
#35
I'd consider the Nony build a pimpest play The way he executed it and timed it perfectly makes pvz look so easy.
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
May 20 2008 01:52 GMT
#36
if you lose the hatch as it morphs into a lair do you get your upgrade costs back?
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Blind
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States2528 Posts
May 20 2008 02:03 GMT
#37
On May 19 2008 13:43 Seraphim wrote:
During NonY vs Gosia Game 3 on Wuthering Heights, Gosia made his hatch into a lair to give it more health. This gave him enough time to save the hatch. Anybody found this really ingenious and creative?

I found it surprising how Artosis and Chill passed it off as another common trick. What do you guys think about it?
The morphing to lair didn't help him save the hatch, because the extra health doesn't apply until the lair finishes morphing. Morphing to lair only helps (if it finishes) for future attacks if Nony decides to do another kamikaze attack on the hatchery. Besides, this trick has been done for years.
Blind
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States2528 Posts
May 20 2008 02:07 GMT
#38
On May 20 2008 10:52 fusionsdf wrote:
if you lose the hatch as it morphs into a lair do you get your upgrade costs back?
No, so it requires a quick decision. If you're confident you can save the hatchery in time and you know he's going to take another stab at the hatchery, you should morph to lair asap. This way, the lair will finish faster, increasing the chance of saving itself in the next attack. If you can't save it in time, you obviously shouldn't morph to lair. Also should be noted that morphing to lair halts the regeneration of the hatchery, so that should be taken into account, too.
VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
May 20 2008 03:59 GMT
#39
I'm a d- noob and I've upgraded my expo for hp a few times

But there has been some amazing plays last few weeks/months. PP2008 could be awesome if done right.
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AltaiR_
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Korea (South)922 Posts
May 20 2008 04:57 GMT
#40
this has been done in pp06 with xiaozi vs satanik...
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LordofAscension
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States589 Posts
May 20 2008 06:22 GMT
#41
PP07 is on schedule for a release this summer with the new SC:L version: alpha.

PP08 submissions will be available before the end of the year.

~LoA
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Darkmole
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States900 Posts
May 20 2008 07:42 GMT
#42
realized that PP2006 came out but no1 made a movie about it 0_0
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
May 20 2008 07:42 GMT
#43
On May 19 2008 13:43 Seraphim wrote:
During NonY vs Gosia Game 3 on Wuthering Heights, Gosia made his hatch into a lair to give it more health. This gave him enough time to save the hatch. Anybody found this really ingenious and creative?

I found it surprising how Artosis and Chill passed it off as another common trick. What do you guys think about it?

That's because it is a common trick
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6175 Posts
May 20 2008 10:47 GMT
#44
it is very very comon trick
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
May 20 2008 10:51 GMT
#45
On May 20 2008 09:14 Ra.Xor.2 wrote:
if you wanna see a pimpest play, search up most storms ever on youtube. I think it was a an osl game between jangbi and nal_ra on andromeda. I'm sorry I can't link them right now, will later


-_-

a) it's nada vs jangbi in PL on .. either wuthering or othello.

b) that is not even near PP material, this super basic lair thing is closer to PP than just many storms yes.
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
May 20 2008 11:19 GMT
#46
Been done before in times when it was more critical. That makes it unable to qualify.
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