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IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
May 06 2008 10:33 GMT
#61
On May 06 2008 13:47 Seraphim wrote:
Wow Mondragon SO manner

Almost seems fake ^^;;

it is

by eurotrash i didnt mean all europeans are trash, i was referring to the gg.net-esque europeans.
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Liquid`Ret
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Netherlands4540 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-06 10:35:13
May 06 2008 10:34 GMT
#62
mondragon is going to rape dreiven and we all know it.

he's proven time and time again he excells @ tournaments and he's just flawless vs protoss.
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a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5214 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-06 10:38:09
May 06 2008 10:37 GMT
#63
On May 06 2008 18:21 Twisted wrote:
I love his little 'eurotrash' comment.

He really shines as a grown up, mature and considerate representative for non-Korean progaming. Thumbs up.

well there was that one guy who was underestimating idras potential, maybe he get`s a lot of that from the european community (i personally haven`t seen it but i don`t go to gg.net so i don`t know).

either way there are a lot of europeans who support him so it was a regrettable comment

edit: oops idra posted while i was writing this - now this is a bit redundant
you wouldnt feel that way if it was *your* magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen - racebannon
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3434 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-06 10:52:51
May 06 2008 10:39 GMT
#64
Mondragon's ZvP in TSL so far is *flawless*; he just doesn't make mistakes. As much as I'd love for Dreiven to come out on top, since I just adore him <3, I don't think it's possible. I'm quite sure Dreiven won't even practice for it.

Frankly, 1st round of TSL is pretty easy to predcit. Every pair looks like this: a very skilled gamer and one that is a level above him.

Mondragon > Dreiven (perfect ZvP vs Dreiven's worst mu)
Brat < Ret / Yayba / Castro (Brat's ok, but he's no superstar yet, if you know what I mean)
lefnaij > Cloud (PvP)
DinOt > Rondo (that's an exception from what I've said above)
Gosia > Kr (but only if Paranoid will practice, if he's out of shape again it's likely he'll slip up)
Nony > Ret / Yayba / Castro (Nony really impressed me, he improved a lot the past few months; a terran has to beat him)
Draco > Strelok (PvT, Strelok's TvP looked weaker than usual in the ro32)

...and unfortunately:

Idra > Ra (I don't think I ever saw Ra beating Idra, his PvT isn't his best and Idra's just better. Though, you know, it might lag a bit!)
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5214 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-06 10:46:44
May 06 2008 10:40 GMT
#65
On May 06 2008 19:27 iG.ClouD wrote:
I understand Idra hate for everyone, he was probably mistreated a lot in his childhood for his uber geek look, but well he is chosing the wrong path and now he's disrespectful towards everyone. It's hard to think bad of him when you kinda imagine that background, however his comments are an hard challenge to people nerves T_T

it`s entirely classless to go after someones looks on a gamer forum.

if you want to be a shallow fuck then go join www.bodybuilders.com

EDIT: this post may come off as harsh but Cloud was in the thread where naruto was underrating idra so he of all people should of understood that idra's "eurotrash" comment may have been nuanced
you wouldnt feel that way if it was *your* magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen - racebannon
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
May 06 2008 10:41 GMT
#66
thats to be expected
cloud is among the trash i was referring to
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aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-06 10:56:11
May 06 2008 10:45 GMT
#67
On May 06 2008 19:40 a-game wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2008 19:27 iG.ClouD wrote:
I understand Idra hate for everyone, he was probably mistreated a lot in his childhood for his uber geek look, but well he is chosing the wrong path and now he's disrespectful towards everyone. It's hard to think bad of him when you kinda imagine that background, however his comments are an hard challenge to people nerves T_T

it`s entirely classless to go after someones looks on a gamer forum.

if you want to be a shallow fuck then go join www.bodybuilders.com

I'm not going after his look. Actually I'm very bad looking too and I never judge someone on the looking. I was just pointing out a possible reason of why Idra is such a bad hater.
And judging from his answer it seems I hit the jackpot
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a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5214 Posts
May 06 2008 10:47 GMT
#68
i added an edit sorry
you wouldnt feel that way if it was *your* magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen - racebannon
Elric
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom1327 Posts
May 06 2008 10:49 GMT
#69
Sorry for being so late in the show, but LOL @ Idra's interview. And a big thumbs up to the good mannered nature of the rest of the interviews..
sephiroth85
Profile Joined January 2007
New Zealand87 Posts
May 06 2008 11:20 GMT
#70
Ahn Nyoung Ha Se Yo Ira!
What is difference between ignorance and apathy?? i dont know and i dont care..
sasal
Profile Joined March 2008
Germany74 Posts
May 06 2008 11:28 GMT
#71
Of course in percentage americans support Idra more because he is a compatriot. Same thing would be reverse if he would have born somewhere else. But you got always some kids, haters and gloating persons everywhere when you try to achieve something. Unfortunately you cant change anything about it. Thats mankind. So I hope Idra just doesnt give them all to much attention and orientates more on the people that supports him.
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-06 13:01:19
May 06 2008 12:34 GMT
#72
On May 06 2008 20:28 sasal wrote:
Of course in percentage americans support Idra more because he is a compatriot. Same thing would be reverse if he would have born somewhere else. But you got always some kids, haters and gloating persons everywhere when you try to achieve something. Unfortunately you cant change anything about it. Thats mankind. So I hope Idra just doesnt give them all to much attention and orientates more on the people that supports him.

I'd like you to name me one Mondragon hater. Predicting yourself into the finals has to be one of the most arrogant responses you can make, regardless of your abilities.
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
May 06 2008 12:56 GMT
#73
There are close to none ?

Its just ridicolous.. Idras behaviour is a bit childish.. i mean u literally wrote.. well u know what u did write man..
and this is so useless and out of place in an interview thats been made in a ''semi'' professional league where money is on the line..

next time when the autho asks you : anything else u want to add '' .. u will come up with stupid flames towards single persons ??


hatred outlives the hateful
sasal
Profile Joined March 2008
Germany74 Posts
May 06 2008 13:06 GMT
#74
Actually there is no cause to talk much about Mondragon since he is known for staying on the top for years and is just still playing not more not less. But if he would start something new and decide to go to Korea for sure there would be also some negative analysis and some who wouldnt support him as much as others.
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
May 06 2008 13:10 GMT
#75
no..
hatred outlives the hateful
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-06 13:14:29
May 06 2008 13:13 GMT
#76
On May 06 2008 22:06 sasal wrote:
Actually there is no cause to talk much about Mondragon since he is known for staying on the top for years and is just still playing not more not less. But if he would start something new and decide to go to Korea for sure there would be also some negative analysis and some who wouldnt support him as much as others.

Of course, just look at all those Draco haters, right? And don't forget the swarms of Grrr and Elky haters out there. Jesus.
SolaR-
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States2686 Posts
May 06 2008 13:22 GMT
#77
the question i ask who cares?
a starcraft player is a starcraft player, whats with all the love and hate lol
sasal
Profile Joined March 2008
Germany74 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-06 13:32:35
May 06 2008 13:31 GMT
#78
@teamsolid:
So you think this sarcastic and ironic way to talk a other one is mannered instead?
Dont exaggerate so much since I saw one youtube Mondragon diss vid. I also saw somebody criticise him as promoting himself much. A other one even called him a arrogant kid in one thread. So even if you dont give a reason it doesnt automaticly means you are loved by everyone.

I have not been so long in bw to know about all those people. Idra for sure got a more difficult personality than others. But the point is I dont feel offended by his interviews and take it to serious. But I would much more if I try to attempt something and there were gloating people who are abusive towards me in a personal way.
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-06 13:46:56
May 06 2008 13:43 GMT
#79
On May 06 2008 22:31 sasal wrote:
@teamsolid:
So you think this sarcastic and ironic way to talk a other one is mannered instead?
Dont exaggerate so much since I saw one youtube Mondragon diss vid. I also saw somebody criticise him as promoting himself much. A other one even called him a arrogant kid in one thread. So even if you dont give a reason it doesnt automaticly means you are loved by everyone.

I have not been so long in bw to know about all those people. Idra for sure got a more difficult personality than others. But the point is I dont feel offended by his interviews and take it to serious. But I would much more if I try to attempt something and there were gloating people who are abusive towards me in a personal way.

Hey, I never claimed that I was mannered. But if I was in an interview, I would never answer with BM. I'm not offended by his interview at all, since I'm not "eurotrash", as was so kindly pointed out.

So basically, his responses aren't earning him much respect from the people reading it. I did get a nice laugh out of it though.
minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-06 13:58:19
May 06 2008 13:50 GMT
#80
On May 06 2008 19:33 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2008 13:47 Seraphim wrote:
Wow Mondragon SO manner

Almost seems fake ^^;;

it is

by eurotrash i didnt mean all europeans are trash, i was referring to the gg.net-esque europeans.


You really should have specified, IdrA.
Fully agree btw It is however very relative, because your views of people who deserve that 'title' are of course very subjective. You would gain much more if you would be a tad more mannered(actually, disregard 'good manners', simply being more professional would do), but hey, nobody's giving you advice, do what you want.

good luck to everyone, this tournament is turning up to be fucking insane
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