EPTPower Rank 02/02/2009 - Page 32
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Nylan
United States795 Posts
...then I remembered that February was a freak accident. Guess I can wait  | ||
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AzureEye
United States1360 Posts
On March 03 2009 05:33 Polar_Bear wrote: I think JD is at 2 golds and 1 silver in starleagues. WCG Korea isn't a SL and the first GSL wasn't even a Kespa tournament. A SC tournament without the big team is like swimming olympics without Michael Phelps... Dude, those 2 tournaments might not have been Kespa tournaments at the time, but how is it fair to rate Bisu's gold in GSL season 2 more important than JD's gold in GSL season 1? (The opponents were just as tough, and Jaedong had to face FLASH in his worst matchup, ZvT, while Bisu had to face Jangbi, in PvP, arguably one of his best matchups.) Just because it wasn't Kespa sanctioned at the time doesn't take away any level of difficulty or anything. That analogy fails because the players JD had to face in season 1 was just as tough as players Bisu had to face at season 2. Its not the team that is fearsome, its the players that create the team. On the other hand, I think Bisu should be #1 PR next month and Jaedong #2 PR even though I like both (I like JD a little more) because I feel like Bisu has been on fire lately. And they faced each other right before this match, where Bisu won. So the score is really 3-3 tied for this PR. And I think Bisu's performance was better than Jaedong's performance for this month. | ||
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Nick_54
United States2230 Posts
On March 03 2009 10:31 AzureEye wrote: Dude, those 2 tournaments might not have been Kespa tournaments at the time, but how is it fair to rate Bisu's gold in GSL season 2 more important than JD's gold in GSL season 1? (The opponents were just as tough, and Jaedong had to face FLASH in his worst matchup, ZvT, while Bisu had to face Jangbi, in PvP, arguably one of his best matchups.) Just because it wasn't Kespa sanctioned at the time doesn't take away any level of difficulty or anything. That analogy fails because the players JD had to face in season 1 was just as tough as players Bisu had to face at season 2. Its not the team that is fearsome, its the players that create the team. On the other hand, I think Bisu should be #1 PR next month and Jaedong #2 PR even though I like both (I like JD a little more) because I feel like Bisu has been on fire lately. And they faced each other right before this match, where Bisu won. So the score is really 3-3 tied for this PR. And I think Bisu's performance was better than Jaedong's performance for this month. Well the first tournament only had 7 of the teams participating in it and this season it had 10 which did make the competition that much harder. A lot of good players didn't get a chance that first season and many a few didn't this season, but the competition is much harder. I mean hell, Shuttle and Backho made it to ro4 the year Jaedong won. A few good players most notably Luxury, Yarnc, Leta, and Light did not get to participate this season, but for the most part all of the best were participating. So yes, the level as difficulty and number of opponents was much more difficult for Bisu. I am pretty sure having to beat Flash, Skyhigh, and Jangbi is more impressive than have to beat Lomo, Shuttle, and Flash. As for this months rank, I don't have the time to write explanations, but if you have a question feel free to ask 1. Bisu 2. Jaedong 3. Jangbi 4. Flash 5. Luxury 6. Leta 7. Stork 8. Light (look at this guys record recently its really good) 9. Hyvaa 10. Hwasin Yeah main suprise and thing I would like Steve to take a look at is that I really think Light deserves a spot. MBC Hero has really turned its performance around with Light now leading them. | ||
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plan3t
Canada75 Posts
You guys sure love your Sea, though. | ||
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wswordsmen
United States987 Posts
On March 03 2009 11:13 Nick_54 wrote:+ Show Spoiler + On March 03 2009 10:31 AzureEye wrote: Dude, those 2 tournaments might not have been Kespa tournaments at the time, but how is it fair to rate Bisu's gold in GSL season 2 more important than JD's gold in GSL season 1? (The opponents were just as tough, and Jaedong had to face FLASH in his worst matchup, ZvT, while Bisu had to face Jangbi, in PvP, arguably one of his best matchups.) Just because it wasn't Kespa sanctioned at the time doesn't take away any level of difficulty or anything. That analogy fails because the players JD had to face in season 1 was just as tough as players Bisu had to face at season 2. Its not the team that is fearsome, its the players that create the team. On the other hand, I think Bisu should be #1 PR next month and Jaedong #2 PR even though I like both (I like JD a little more) because I feel like Bisu has been on fire lately. And they faced each other right before this match, where Bisu won. So the score is really 3-3 tied for this PR. And I think Bisu's performance was better than Jaedong's performance for this month. Well the first tournament only had 7 of the teams participating in it and this season it had 10 which did make the competition that much harder. A lot of good players didn't get a chance that first season and many a few didn't this season, but the competition is much harder. I mean hell, Shuttle and Backho made it to ro4 the year Jaedong won. A few good players most notably Luxury, Yarnc, Leta, and Light did not get to participate this season, but for the most part all of the best were participating. So yes, the level as difficulty and number of opponents was much more difficult for Bisu. I am pretty sure having to beat Flash, Skyhigh, and Jangbi is more impressive than have to beat Lomo, Shuttle, and Flash. As for this months rank, I don't have the time to write explanations, but if you have a question feel free to ask 1. Bisu 2. Jaedong 3. Jangbi 4. Flash 5. Luxury 6. Leta 7. Stork 8. Light (look at this guys record recently its really good) 9. Hyvaa 10. Hwasin Yeah main suprise and thing I would like Steve to take a look at is that I really think Light deserves a spot. MBC Hero has really turned its performance around with Light now leading them. Only 9 teams participated this time, and 1 was ace so it might as well have been 8. (Ace was eliminated by the time seeds entered the tournament, except Mumyung who lost to Rock) Spoilers are for post size. On March 03 2009 11:17 plan3t wrote: I hope that Sea doesn't just jump to number 1 again for all-killing ACE. You guys sure love your Sea, though. That was a f*#%ing joke. How dense are you to not realize that. | ||
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Lockon Stratos
United States126 Posts
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Avidkeystamper
United States8552 Posts
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
On March 03 2009 11:29 Lockon Stratos wrote: So where is Flash going to end up with respect to Jaedong? Because Flash beat Jaedong both times they met this month but Jaedong is still in a SL. In this situation do you determine the order by their 2 matches or by purely looking at their SL performance? No way Flash can be above Jaedong after dropping both OSL and MSL. | ||
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fanatacist
10319 Posts
On March 02 2009 14:12 Jaeden wrote: nah ur right  JD has only 3 golds, the wcg doesn`t really count. Also he has 1 silver, one is from ODT I felt that way too but I didn't want to come off as biased to JD fans n_n; | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
On March 03 2009 13:27 fanatacist wrote: I felt that way too but I didn't want to come off as biased to JD fans n_n; I mostly agree with this. Bisu is one step ahead in terms of consistancy to perform at his best level of play than flash and jaedong. However when all of them play their very best bisu, in my oppinion, is the worst out of them. | ||
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raga4ka
Bulgaria5679 Posts
On March 03 2009 20:39 AnOth3rDAy wrote: I mostly agree with this. Bisu is one step ahead in terms of consistancy to perform at his best level of play than flash and jaedong. However when all of them play their very best bisu, in my oppinion, is the worst out of them. I think thats because Flash and Jaedong prepare harder for WL then Bisu , but thats just my thought . Bisu is still a monster in WL too . Well as of late KTF and Lecaf have mostly been sending Flash/Jaedong at the last sets probably not to overwork them ? Bisu is sent whenever the map is good for protoss and that way he is catching up with Flash and Jaedong pretty fast in WL or is it just that SKT has been failing a lot more recently and they are relying on Bisu to win them the series . | ||
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Nylan
United States795 Posts
On March 03 2009 12:23 Sentenal wrote: No way Flash can be above Jaedong after dropping both OSL and MSL. Have you been watching WL? Kid is an overworked beast. Someone call the social workers. | ||
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raga4ka
Bulgaria5679 Posts
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Lukeeze[zR]
Switzerland6838 Posts
On March 03 2009 23:53 Nylan wrote: Have you been watching WL? Kid is an overworked beast. Someone call the social workers. and what ? overworked or not, he didnt perform well in SL and thus deserves to be ranked lower than LJD | ||
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Kong John
Denmark1020 Posts
On March 03 2009 20:39 AnOth3rDAy wrote: I mostly agree with this. Bisu is one step ahead in terms of consistancy to perform at his best level of play than flash and jaedong. However when all of them play their very best bisu, in my oppinion, is the worst out of them. I really agree here, Bisu probably should get 1# for this month but i still think that hes the worst of the best  | ||
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Darth Peter
Romania438 Posts
On March 03 2009 23:53 Nylan wrote: Have you been watching WL? Kid is an overworked beast. Someone call the social workers. And JD,Bisu,Jangbi aren't overworked? Without them their teams never win(today was an exception otherwise usually when they lose,their team is fucked) | ||
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Lockon Stratos
United States126 Posts
On March 04 2009 01:24 Lukeeze[zR] wrote: and what ? overworked or not, he didnt perform well in SL and thus deserves to be ranked lower than LJD He will probably end up ranked lower, but he definitely doesn't deserve to be, Jaedong could not stop Flash last month. | ||
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animus123
United States171 Posts
On March 04 2009 02:33 Lockon Stratos wrote: He will probably end up ranked lower, but he definitely doesn't deserve to be, Jaedong could not stop Flash last month. hey bisu can't stop by.hero, he should definitely be number one. But srsly, flash is out of both SL's, which simply count for more than PL. The people he lost to also matter, because he lost in his supposed best matchup TvT. 1. Bisu 2. Jaedong(barely missed #1) 3. 4. Jangbi 5. Luxury 6. Stork 7. Flash 8-10. Who cares. | ||
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Lukeeze[zR]
Switzerland6838 Posts
On March 04 2009 02:33 Lockon Stratos wrote: He will probably end up ranked lower, but he definitely doesn't deserve to be, Jaedong could not stop Flash last month. head-to-head isnt everything | ||
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