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United States126 Posts
On March 04 2009 03:05 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2009 02:33 Lockon Stratos wrote:On March 04 2009 01:24 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:On March 03 2009 23:53 Nylan wrote:On March 03 2009 12:23 Sentenal wrote:On March 03 2009 11:29 Lockon Stratos wrote:
So where is Flash going to end up with respect to Jaedong? Because Flash beat Jaedong both times they met this month but Jaedong is still in a SL. In this situation do you determine the order by their 2 matches or by purely looking at their SL performance? No way Flash can be above Jaedong after dropping both OSL and MSL. Have you been watching WL? Kid is an overworked beast. Someone call the social workers. and what ? overworked or not, he didnt perform well in SL and thus deserves to be ranked lower than LJD He will probably end up ranked lower, but he definitely doesn't deserve to be, Jaedong could not stop Flash last month. head-to-head isnt everything
It isn't nothing either.
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Luxury should be # 4 , the only player standing in both leagues with Stork , and he has impressed me with his series against Hwasin and Leta in some games there are some brilliant moves . I think he is one of the favourites to win the MSL , but only if he doesn't choke and prepare his absolute best against Zero and probably JangBi / Stork who will meet him in the final .I think he has what it takes to finally take out a big protoss of Stork and JangBI's caliber , but i fear for him in his upcoming series versus Zero where i think he is 50%/50% at best to win it  .
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On March 04 2009 03:23 Lockon Stratos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2009 03:05 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:On March 04 2009 02:33 Lockon Stratos wrote:On March 04 2009 01:24 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:On March 03 2009 23:53 Nylan wrote:On March 03 2009 12:23 Sentenal wrote:On March 03 2009 11:29 Lockon Stratos wrote:
So where is Flash going to end up with respect to Jaedong? Because Flash beat Jaedong both times they met this month but Jaedong is still in a SL. In this situation do you determine the order by their 2 matches or by purely looking at their SL performance? No way Flash can be above Jaedong after dropping both OSL and MSL. Have you been watching WL? Kid is an overworked beast. Someone call the social workers. and what ? overworked or not, he didnt perform well in SL and thus deserves to be ranked lower than LJD He will probably end up ranked lower, but he definitely doesn't deserve to be, Jaedong could not stop Flash last month. head-to-head isnt everything It isn't nothing either.
But if that's all you have...
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On March 04 2009 03:26 raga4ka wrote:Luxury should be # 4 , the only player standing in both leagues with Stork , and he has impressed me with his series against Hwasin and Leta in some games there are some brilliant moves . I think he is one of the favourites to win the MSL , but only if he doesn't choke and prepare his absolute best against Zero and probably JangBi / Stork who will meet him in the final .I think he has what it takes to finally take out a big protoss of Stork and JangBI's caliber , but i fear for him in his upcoming series versus Zero where i think he is 50%/50% at best to win it .
well, his series against Leta did not impress me that much. Imo he played really really bad in the Byzantium game + 5pool is a luck based build, even though Luxury used it on the map in which had the most % to succeed, it's still the most all in build possible. He outplayed Leta in 1 game, and fooled him in the last one. I hope he wins MSL though... Or gets beaten by Nada, that would be better. He's certanly able to beat whoever remained in MSL, if the flash-sindrome doesnt shows up. (dropping off from both leauge in the same time beacause of the bad scheldue)
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On March 04 2009 03:23 Lockon Stratos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2009 03:05 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:On March 04 2009 02:33 Lockon Stratos wrote:On March 04 2009 01:24 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:On March 03 2009 23:53 Nylan wrote:On March 03 2009 12:23 Sentenal wrote:On March 03 2009 11:29 Lockon Stratos wrote:
So where is Flash going to end up with respect to Jaedong? Because Flash beat Jaedong both times they met this month but Jaedong is still in a SL. In this situation do you determine the order by their 2 matches or by purely looking at their SL performance? No way Flash can be above Jaedong after dropping both OSL and MSL. Have you been watching WL? Kid is an overworked beast. Someone call the social workers. and what ? overworked or not, he didnt perform well in SL and thus deserves to be ranked lower than LJD He will probably end up ranked lower, but he definitely doesn't deserve to be, Jaedong could not stop Flash last month. head-to-head isnt everything It isn't nothing either.
I guess you didn't say anything when Bisu was two spots lower than Flash even tho he was 3-1 against him that month.
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United States126 Posts
On March 04 2009 04:03 Darth Peter wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2009 03:23 Lockon Stratos wrote:On March 04 2009 03:05 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:On March 04 2009 02:33 Lockon Stratos wrote:On March 04 2009 01:24 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:On March 03 2009 23:53 Nylan wrote:On March 03 2009 12:23 Sentenal wrote:On March 03 2009 11:29 Lockon Stratos wrote:
So where is Flash going to end up with respect to Jaedong? Because Flash beat Jaedong both times they met this month but Jaedong is still in a SL. In this situation do you determine the order by their 2 matches or by purely looking at their SL performance? No way Flash can be above Jaedong after dropping both OSL and MSL. Have you been watching WL? Kid is an overworked beast. Someone call the social workers. and what ? overworked or not, he didnt perform well in SL and thus deserves to be ranked lower than LJD He will probably end up ranked lower, but he definitely doesn't deserve to be, Jaedong could not stop Flash last month. head-to-head isnt everything It isn't nothing either. I guess you didn't say anything when Bisu was two spots lower than Flash even tho he was 3-1 against him that month.
I really couldn't say anything seeing as how I registered just recently.
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This is my first ever post at TL. Yay!
Anyway, as big of a Flash fan that I am, I'd have to say that JD deserves to be higher this month. Yes, Flash won 12 in a row at one point during the month, which is quite a rare feat. Unfortunately, he also lost 4 in a row near the end of the month that got him kicked out of both leagues (one could argue it's because he had to play 4 games before his loss to Best that very same day, and the fact that he got knocked out of the OSL the day before affected his play in the MSL. But he still lost.) Also, Jaedong beat Bisu in a best of 5, which in my opinion shows he deserves to be at the top of the PR. But as long as the top 5 this month are either Bisu and Jaedong at number one and then any order of Jangbi, Flash, and Luxury, then I think it will be an accurate Power Ranking.
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By the way. Isn't it time for the next PR already?
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I agree with bisu being #1. He has shown great play, consistency and titles in recent months, which cannot be said of jaedong. Given that the 6 matches they played in the last week basically showed that they are of equal skill right now, I think bisu being #1 is more deserved than Jaedong.
#3 is more of a contentious spot, with luxury, flash and jangbi all vying for the one spot. However, I remember reading some posts in the past on what the selection criteria is for the PR, and it went something along the lines of who would win a bo5 RIGHT NOW, or in other words, who is the most skilled/in form player.
If that is how it is to be selected, then I would put my money on Flash. This is my own gut feeling that flash is playing better than the other two, and is also precisely the reason why KTF sends our lux, and then flash in Winners League.
Indeed, I am not going to write the PR, and my selection criteria is most likely not going to be the same as the person who's writing the PR, but that would be what I would put as my top 3, with jangbi at #4, and lux at #5.
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Bisu Flash and Jaedong are at a level above everyone else, but they are so close it's hard to pick a favorite amongst them. I don't mean this for Power Rank, but I mean this in overall ability and if I had to bet on a Bo5 winner between any two. But I'd easily pick any of them against anyone else.
Really impressed also by the way Flash picked up his vZ, Bisu is dominating vT and Jaedong is killing his vT. Oh and Flash still has the best winning percentage of all time of anyone with more than a handful of games.
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Osaka27168 Posts
Hey Steve hurry up or I'll write it today. I finished my essay sucka.
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On March 04 2009 08:47 Manifesto7 wrote:
Hey Steve hurry up or I'll write it today. I finished my essay sucka.
DO IT
I liked your PR n_n
I like Steve's PR too though, but this kind of spices things up a bit in my opinion.
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Kind of agree with you Tyxiquale. I don't dispute Bisu for #1 in PR, and if I'd be hard to bet on any of the three against any of the three in a Bo5, but if I had to, I would probably take Flash over both Bisu and Jaedong right this moment (SL, PL, head to head all taken into account). I'd also probably take Flash if I had to bet who would win the most games in a 50 game super series against the other top 50 gamers out there.
Bisu totally deserves top spot though for his results and performance. That's what PR is about. You have to play well and you have to post results. But the Jaedong HAS to be over Flash because of the fact Flash is out of both leagues debate I find a little annoying. Flash lost two tough games, one against Best, and one against Leta to find himself out in the cold. Flash also beat up everyone on his streak in PL while being the #1 target to be sniped at all times by everyone--including JD twice. Power Rank is about making tough decisions based on judgment and a brain and watching every single game. That's why I cannot deal with people shouting about Flash being out so therefore he cannot be over JD or anyone else in a SL. The whole point of Power Rank is that it's not even a real ranking, there are no rules to it, and it's about judgment and opinions. Making up some artificial rule is about the least interesting thing you can do besides create a whole set of rules and formulas you can input data into and spit out a PR each month. Maybe Flash might be ranked #2. wouldn't that be shocking, and make JD fans cry with rage.
I also want to say I hate Leta now after I was really beginning to like him, especially after his infamous Luxury behind the expo play. There is nothing worse in all of Starcraft to me than an all-in mirror match cheese to end a tied series. I'll take an all-in cheese if you're up 1-0, 2-0, 2-1 and you want to gamble to go home or you're down 1-0, 2-0, 2-1 and want to gamble to get back. Or if it's tied and you want to gamble for an advantage. I'll even take a four pool against a Terran or Toss to end a series on an imba map perhaps. But to totally cop out of the DECIDING game in a series against a mirror opponent (rules out map imba) tells me they just want no part of the guy at all. It just seems borderline disrespectful even.
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I know that it will be a new Power Rank
when Leta isn't on it.
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wtf.. hahahaha... that's gotta be the most informative post i've ever read in the least amount of words.
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Steve promised us a power ranking today!
On March 04 2009 13:37 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
if you want an accurate reflection of who is playing the best right now, read the Power Rank. A new one comes out today.
Now let us hope he delivers
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On March 04 2009 03:47 Geo.Rion wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2009 03:26 raga4ka wrote:Luxury should be # 4 , the only player standing in both leagues with Stork , and he has impressed me with his series against Hwasin and Leta in some games there are some brilliant moves . I think he is one of the favourites to win the MSL , but only if he doesn't choke and prepare his absolute best against Zero and probably JangBi / Stork who will meet him in the final .I think he has what it takes to finally take out a big protoss of Stork and JangBI's caliber , but i fear for him in his upcoming series versus Zero where i think he is 50%/50% at best to win it . well, his series against Leta did not impress me that much. Imo he played really really bad in the Byzantium game + 5pool is a luck based build, even though Luxury used it on the map in which had the most % to succeed, it's still the most all in build possible. He outplayed Leta in 1 game, and fooled him in the last one. I hope he wins MSL though... Or gets beaten by Nada, that would be better. He's certanly able to beat whoever remained in MSL, if the flash-sindrome doesnt shows up. (dropping off from both leauge in the same time beacause of the bad scheldue)
Well on Byzantium Luxury was behind from the start with his build choise and Leta's build was pretty good . The only bad mistake in that game was not that he went guardians , but that he should have used those guardians together with the lurkers to flank and destroy Leta's army in front of his natural . But he counter-attacked with them and he couldn't stall for dark swarm ... And he outplayed Leta in games 4 and outsmarted him in game 5 , not game 1 .
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