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On February 21 2009 07:46 Lockon Stratos wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2009 07:26 Zozma wrote:On February 21 2009 07:20 Lockon Stratos wrote:On February 21 2009 04:32 Zozma wrote:On February 21 2009 04:11 Lockon Stratos wrote:On February 21 2009 03:52 Zozma wrote:
I just need to get this off my chest. It's been building up for a while.
FLASH IS NOT THE BEST PLAYER RIGHT NOW.
I think Bisu is the best player right now. Jaedong is certainly playing better than Flash lately, despite being in pretty much the same situation as far as WL goes. Leta, Hwasin, and UpMagic have all been putting forth strong showings, and Flash isn't even the undisputed best Terran player at this point. Ok I can see how Flash may not be the best overall player right now, but to say that he's not the best Terran player is going too far. Who is the best Terran player then? Leta? Saying Leta is better than Flash is like saying Tempest is better than fantasy lol. No... it's not much like that at all. I think Leta is better than Flash. It's just my opinion, but the fact that Leta beat Flash in their MSL matches certainly helps my argument. No? Why not? fantasy destroyed tempest in their first match; Flash destroyed Leta in their first match. But then tempest cheeses fantasy, kicking him out of the MSL; Leta cheeses Flash, kicking Flash out of the MSL. Looks like the same situation to me. So if you say Leta is better than Flash, then you have to consider Tempest over fantasy by the same logic. I haven't watched Fantasy vs. Tempest, so obviously I can't comment. But Leta didn't cheese Flash in the second game, and Leta won that pretty easily. Leta did in fact BBS in game 3, but I have a suspicion that if Flash had BBS rushed Leta rather than the other way around, Flash fans would be talking about his cleverness in a BoX series, and I would be whining about cheese. You know, rather than the other way around. Where in my post did I "whine" about how Leta beat Flash? I accepted the fact that Leta won the game and that Flash lost. I never mentioned anything about the fairness of Leta's method, I just made observations that Leta won the deciding match against Flash the same way Tempest won his against fantasy. You are the one trying to make it look like I'm complaining of how cheesy Leta is in order to dodge my question... You cannot justify Leta being better than Flash anymore than you can justify Tempest being better than fantasy. Its clear who the better player is in both cases. Let's try to put this in your language. Flash losing to Leta in game three is like a cobra fighting a mongoose in the Himalayas on a Tuesday in the middle of July.
Can you say that the mongoose deserved to lose because it died of hypothermia?
Saying that Flash lost to Leta's cheese is the same thing.
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On February 21 2009 07:56 haley wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2009 07:20 Lockon Stratos wrote:On February 21 2009 04:32 Zozma wrote:On February 21 2009 04:11 Lockon Stratos wrote:On February 21 2009 03:52 Zozma wrote:
I just need to get this off my chest. It's been building up for a while.
FLASH IS NOT THE BEST PLAYER RIGHT NOW.
I think Bisu is the best player right now. Jaedong is certainly playing better than Flash lately, despite being in pretty much the same situation as far as WL goes. Leta, Hwasin, and UpMagic have all been putting forth strong showings, and Flash isn't even the undisputed best Terran player at this point. Ok I can see how Flash may not be the best overall player right now, but to say that he's not the best Terran player is going too far. Who is the best Terran player then? Leta? Saying Leta is better than Flash is like saying Tempest is better than fantasy lol. No... it's not much like that at all. I think Leta is better than Flash. It's just my opinion, but the fact that Leta beat Flash in their MSL matches certainly helps my argument. No? Why not? fantasy destroyed tempest in their first match; Flash destroyed Leta in their first match. But then tempest cheeses fantasy, kicking him out of the MSL; Leta cheeses Flash, kicking Flash out of the MSL. Looks like the same situation to me. So if you say Leta is better than Flash, then you have to consider Tempest over fantasy by the same logic. Haha. Look at this guy trying to spin things. I'm not arguing whether or not it's the same thing, but you're obviously trying to spin things. Fantasy beat Tempest soundly, then got cheesed next game. That's the example you're using... And then you say the same thing with Flash and Leta OMITTING the game 2 intentionally just so you can say "Flash beat Leta then Leta cheeses him." You need a better analogy instead of spinning things around like that. I notice almost all of your posts are illogical spins.
Hey retard, learn to read: Leta won the deciding match against Flash the same way Tempest won his against fantasy. Notice I explicitly stated the deciding game. I stated it right then and there because I knew retards like you would try to pull that.
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On February 21 2009 08:11 Avidkeystamper wrote:It's that's the best argument to be brought up, then I'm pretty happy. + Show Spoiler +
I'm joking about that being the reason, but I am not joking about the PR prediction. We will see more soon, but day by day it seems Bisu is holding it down more and more imo.
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On February 21 2009 08:51 Lockon Stratos wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2009 07:56 haley wrote:On February 21 2009 07:20 Lockon Stratos wrote:On February 21 2009 04:32 Zozma wrote:On February 21 2009 04:11 Lockon Stratos wrote:On February 21 2009 03:52 Zozma wrote:
I just need to get this off my chest. It's been building up for a while.
FLASH IS NOT THE BEST PLAYER RIGHT NOW.
I think Bisu is the best player right now. Jaedong is certainly playing better than Flash lately, despite being in pretty much the same situation as far as WL goes. Leta, Hwasin, and UpMagic have all been putting forth strong showings, and Flash isn't even the undisputed best Terran player at this point. Ok I can see how Flash may not be the best overall player right now, but to say that he's not the best Terran player is going too far. Who is the best Terran player then? Leta? Saying Leta is better than Flash is like saying Tempest is better than fantasy lol. No... it's not much like that at all. I think Leta is better than Flash. It's just my opinion, but the fact that Leta beat Flash in their MSL matches certainly helps my argument. No? Why not? fantasy destroyed tempest in their first match; Flash destroyed Leta in their first match. But then tempest cheeses fantasy, kicking him out of the MSL; Leta cheeses Flash, kicking Flash out of the MSL. Looks like the same situation to me. So if you say Leta is better than Flash, then you have to consider Tempest over fantasy by the same logic. Haha. Look at this guy trying to spin things. I'm not arguing whether or not it's the same thing, but you're obviously trying to spin things. Fantasy beat Tempest soundly, then got cheesed next game. That's the example you're using... And then you say the same thing with Flash and Leta OMITTING the game 2 intentionally just so you can say "Flash beat Leta then Leta cheeses him." You need a better analogy instead of spinning things around like that. I notice almost all of your posts are illogical spins. Hey retard, learn to read: Show nested quote +Leta won the deciding match against Flash the same way Tempest won his against fantasy. Notice I explicitly stated the deciding game. I stated it right then and there because I knew retards like you would try to pull that.
I don`t know what "retard" has to do with anything. I don`t get it why some people get pissed off so badly when they are contradicting each other. It`s a conversation, everyone explains his oppinions...biased or not, we all have the right to say our oppinion, if it's said in a mannered way of course.
If he said that u are a dodger, you can argue with that of course, but why do you need to insult him?! I`m not protecting anyone, I don`t even know who that guy is, but you people need to chill and stop getting so pissed of at every little thingy.
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On February 21 2009 09:02 fanatacist wrote:I'm joking about that being the reason, but I am not joking about the PR prediction. We will see more soon, but day by day it seems Bisu is holding it down more and more imo.
Nah, JD is just droppin` games, so that Bisu`ll think he's weak. Prepare for a 3-0 rape, JD takes no hostages! 
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On February 21 2009 09:02 fanatacist wrote:I'm joking about that being the reason, but I am not joking about the PR prediction. We will see more soon, but day by day it seems Bisu is holding it down more and more imo.
There's still 10 days left, a lot can change, just look at Flash.
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On February 21 2009 09:10 Jaeden wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2009 09:02 fanatacist wrote:On February 21 2009 08:11 Avidkeystamper wrote:On February 21 2009 07:32 fanatacist wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Jaedong just got GGPlay'd LOL Bisu #1 EZ It's that's the best argument to be brought up, then I'm pretty happy. + Show Spoiler + I'm joking about that being the reason, but I am not joking about the PR prediction. We will see more soon, but day by day it seems Bisu is holding it down more and more imo. Nah, JD is just droppin` games, so that Bisu`ll think he's weak. Prepare for a 3-0 rape, JD takes no hostages!
Haha definitely a wishful theory. I definitely see a chance for Jaedong to win the series, not 3-0, maybe 3-1 and most likely 3-2, but I am hoping Bisu 3-2. I am a fan but I don't let it blind me, Jaedong is a great player and Bisu isn't invincible.
On February 21 2009 09:13 TwoStep wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2009 09:02 fanatacist wrote:On February 21 2009 08:11 Avidkeystamper wrote:On February 21 2009 07:32 fanatacist wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Jaedong just got GGPlay'd LOL Bisu #1 EZ It's that's the best argument to be brought up, then I'm pretty happy. + Show Spoiler + I'm joking about that being the reason, but I am not joking about the PR prediction. We will see more soon, but day by day it seems Bisu is holding it down more and more imo. There's still 10 days left, a lot can change, just look at Flash.
Which is why I said we will see more soon, but so far I don't think anyone can argue that he is becoming more of a favorite for the number one spot as other players drop the ball here and there. If he drops the ball, then it will be a different story. But right NOW, that is how I see it.
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Yep, that's pretty much it.
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On February 21 2009 09:18 fanatacist wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2009 09:10 Jaeden wrote:On February 21 2009 09:02 fanatacist wrote:On February 21 2009 08:11 Avidkeystamper wrote:On February 21 2009 07:32 fanatacist wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Jaedong just got GGPlay'd LOL Bisu #1 EZ It's that's the best argument to be brought up, then I'm pretty happy. + Show Spoiler + I'm joking about that being the reason, but I am not joking about the PR prediction. We will see more soon, but day by day it seems Bisu is holding it down more and more imo. Nah, JD is just droppin` games, so that Bisu`ll think he's weak. Prepare for a 3-0 rape, JD takes no hostages! Haha definitely a wishful theory. I definitely see a chance for Jaedong to win the series, not 3-0, maybe 3-1 and most likely 3-2, but I am hoping Bisu 3-2. I am a fan but I don't let it blind me, Jaedong is a great player and Bisu isn't invincible. Show nested quote +On February 21 2009 09:13 TwoStep wrote:On February 21 2009 09:02 fanatacist wrote:On February 21 2009 08:11 Avidkeystamper wrote:On February 21 2009 07:32 fanatacist wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Jaedong just got GGPlay'd LOL Bisu #1 EZ It's that's the best argument to be brought up, then I'm pretty happy. + Show Spoiler + I'm joking about that being the reason, but I am not joking about the PR prediction. We will see more soon, but day by day it seems Bisu is holding it down more and more imo. There's still 10 days left, a lot can change, just look at Flash. Which is why I said we will see more soon, but so far I don't think anyone can argue that he is becoming more of a favorite for the number one spot as other players drop the ball here and there. If he drops the ball, then it will be a different story. But right NOW, that is how I see it.
Nah, I was just hyping things up. It would've been great if all 5 games would be played on BlueStorm... oh what am I sayin`, it will be great anyway 
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On February 21 2009 09:26 Jaeden wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2009 09:18 fanatacist wrote:On February 21 2009 09:10 Jaeden wrote:On February 21 2009 09:02 fanatacist wrote:On February 21 2009 08:11 Avidkeystamper wrote:On February 21 2009 07:32 fanatacist wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Jaedong just got GGPlay'd LOL Bisu #1 EZ It's that's the best argument to be brought up, then I'm pretty happy. + Show Spoiler + I'm joking about that being the reason, but I am not joking about the PR prediction. We will see more soon, but day by day it seems Bisu is holding it down more and more imo. Nah, JD is just droppin` games, so that Bisu`ll think he's weak. Prepare for a 3-0 rape, JD takes no hostages! Haha definitely a wishful theory. I definitely see a chance for Jaedong to win the series, not 3-0, maybe 3-1 and most likely 3-2, but I am hoping Bisu 3-2. I am a fan but I don't let it blind me, Jaedong is a great player and Bisu isn't invincible. On February 21 2009 09:13 TwoStep wrote:On February 21 2009 09:02 fanatacist wrote:On February 21 2009 08:11 Avidkeystamper wrote:On February 21 2009 07:32 fanatacist wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Jaedong just got GGPlay'd LOL Bisu #1 EZ It's that's the best argument to be brought up, then I'm pretty happy. + Show Spoiler + I'm joking about that being the reason, but I am not joking about the PR prediction. We will see more soon, but day by day it seems Bisu is holding it down more and more imo. There's still 10 days left, a lot can change, just look at Flash. Which is why I said we will see more soon, but so far I don't think anyone can argue that he is becoming more of a favorite for the number one spot as other players drop the ball here and there. If he drops the ball, then it will be a different story. But right NOW, that is how I see it. Nah, I was just hyping things up. It would've been great if all 5 games would be played on BlueStorm... oh what am I sayin`, it will be great anyway
I know ;]
I'm sure they can be epic on any map really... Put them on Paradoxxx and it would still be sick.
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On February 21 2009 07:34 fanatacist wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2009 20:45 FireGuyX wrote:On February 20 2009 12:50 fanatacist wrote:On February 20 2009 11:19 Tinithor wrote:
Anyone notice that Stork is still in contention for both leagues as well? No one gives a shit bout stork anymore i suppose. He sucks. Nice logic there smart ass. Hey kid relax, take some time to cool down and maybe go to a psychiatrist to see if they can fix the fact that you said "money" instead of "monkey" three times out of four. And maybe they can treat your anger issues too! That would be great. baibai nao~
So a made a typo, big deal, it happens when typing fast on forums. As for me needing a psychiatrist, well it's nothing personal ***hole, so don't take it that way, maybe you should see one too. And please don't call me a kid, I'm probably older than you.
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some embarassing boarding going on
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On February 21 2009 09:44 FireGuyX wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2009 07:34 fanatacist wrote:On February 20 2009 20:45 FireGuyX wrote:On February 20 2009 12:50 fanatacist wrote:On February 20 2009 11:19 Tinithor wrote:
Anyone notice that Stork is still in contention for both leagues as well? No one gives a shit bout stork anymore i suppose. He sucks. Nice logic there smart ass. Hey kid relax, take some time to cool down and maybe go to a psychiatrist to see if they can fix the fact that you said "money" instead of "monkey" three times out of four. And maybe they can treat your anger issues too! That would be great. baibai nao~ So a made a typo, big deal, it happens when typing fast on forums. As for me needing a psychiatrist, well it's nothing personal ***hole, so don't take it that way, maybe you should see one too. And please don't call me a kid, I'm probably older than you.
It's a matter of self-worth, if you don't put in the effort to make your posts legible, logical, and well-constructed then why the fuck should I put in the time to read it? Why should I care about what you say when you sound like a retard and when you say "a" instead of "I"? No need, but it is worth putting in time to shoving it in your face (on top of your shitty argument/statement that was relevant to this thread).
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Sigh at these Leta vs Flash arguments. It's like saying Bisu cheesed the MSL gold off Jangbi. -_- Just stupid.
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On February 21 2009 22:55 Shikyo wrote:
Sigh at these Leta vs Flash arguments. It's like saying Bisu cheesed the MSL gold off Jangbi. -_- Just stupid.
He did! We all know JangBi is a better player, and he's more accomplished than Bisu...who heard of Bisu before ? no one.
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On February 21 2009 08:51 Lockon Stratos wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2009 07:56 haley wrote:On February 21 2009 07:20 Lockon Stratos wrote:On February 21 2009 04:32 Zozma wrote:On February 21 2009 04:11 Lockon Stratos wrote:On February 21 2009 03:52 Zozma wrote:
I just need to get this off my chest. It's been building up for a while.
FLASH IS NOT THE BEST PLAYER RIGHT NOW.
I think Bisu is the best player right now. Jaedong is certainly playing better than Flash lately, despite being in pretty much the same situation as far as WL goes. Leta, Hwasin, and UpMagic have all been putting forth strong showings, and Flash isn't even the undisputed best Terran player at this point. Ok I can see how Flash may not be the best overall player right now, but to say that he's not the best Terran player is going too far. Who is the best Terran player then? Leta? Saying Leta is better than Flash is like saying Tempest is better than fantasy lol. No... it's not much like that at all. I think Leta is better than Flash. It's just my opinion, but the fact that Leta beat Flash in their MSL matches certainly helps my argument. No? Why not? fantasy destroyed tempest in their first match; Flash destroyed Leta in their first match. But then tempest cheeses fantasy, kicking him out of the MSL; Leta cheeses Flash, kicking Flash out of the MSL. Looks like the same situation to me. So if you say Leta is better than Flash, then you have to consider Tempest over fantasy by the same logic. Haha. Look at this guy trying to spin things. I'm not arguing whether or not it's the same thing, but you're obviously trying to spin things. Fantasy beat Tempest soundly, then got cheesed next game. That's the example you're using... And then you say the same thing with Flash and Leta OMITTING the game 2 intentionally just so you can say "Flash beat Leta then Leta cheeses him." You need a better analogy instead of spinning things around like that. I notice almost all of your posts are illogical spins. Hey retard, learn to read: Show nested quote +Leta won the deciding match against Flash the same way Tempest won his against fantasy. Notice I explicitly stated the deciding game. I stated it right then and there because I knew retards like you would try to pull that.
Check which post I'm responding to. Check the timestamps between my post and the post you're referencing. Did it occur to you that it wasn't there while I was responding? You typed that up in response to someone else criticizing the same post I was ignoring Leta's ownage of Flash in Game 2.
And THEN you decide to use your new post to someone criticizing your old post to my post which criticizes your old post, too? My post was only 10 minutes after -- maybe I should have typed faster. Sucks, but you should think, idiot.
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Everyone seems to throw the fire on KTF for having Flash play 5 games on the day of his OSL, which could possibly make his OSL loss less damning (especially since he lost to BeSt, who's incredibly skilled at PvT in his own right).
But people also conveniently seem to mention that "he played 7 games over two days" rather than saying that the games were split 5:2, with the MSL set being the only games he had to play on the second day. Flash didn't play badly game 2 of his set vs Leta, but was at an early disadvantage after Leta hit a timing nerve on game 2 (with a few small mistakes), while he got cheesed out on the second game. It's not the schedule that lost him his MSL games, but rather a combination of a nice move on leta's end and being at the receiving end of a cheese. This however, could (and does) happen to any gamer. Flash is not pardoned for his loss out of the MSL because this happened to him.
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+ Show Spoiler [skt vs ogn] +Bisu just all-killed OGN, and made it look easy. In his game vs Leta, he got a big lead, killed a push, and then jacked off the rest of the game and still won. Bisu looks strong as hell right now. Within the last month, Bisu has shown us that Probes>4gate goon, and Probes>2hatch hydra.
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On February 22 2009 15:18 Sentenal wrote:+ Show Spoiler [skt vs ogn] +Bisu just all-killed OGN, and made it look easy. In his game vs Leta, he got a big lead, killed a push, and then jacked off the rest of the game and still won. Bisu looks strong as hell right now. Within the last month, Bisu has shown us that Probes>4gate goon, and Probes>2hatch hydra.
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Yep, he's pretty much guaranteed 1st unless Jaedong beats him in a way that's not really close. Even though he beat scrubs, he looked good doing it.
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On February 22 2009 15:18 Sentenal wrote:+ Show Spoiler [skt vs ogn] +Bisu just all-killed OGN, and made it look easy. In his game vs Leta, he got a big lead, killed a push, and then jacked off the rest of the game and still won. Bisu looks strong as hell right now. Within the last month, Bisu has shown us that Probes>4gate goon, and Probes>2hatch hydra.
+ Show Spoiler +They are not probes, but dts disguised as probes.
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