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On February 12 2009 03:19 Darth Peter wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2009 01:50 baubo wrote:While Jaedong may or may not be better than Jangbi, I don't know why you use his win against Kal and Sunny as examples. If anything, those games prove squat. If Sunny was even an average TvZer who practices normally, Jaedong would've lost that game. Sunny lost that game because he just doesn't have the late-game terran control of a normal progamer. As for OSL, winning ZvP on Tears of the Moon doesn't exactly require gosu skills. That said, I wouldn't mind putting Jaedong above Jangbi. On February 12 2009 00:31 Darth Peter wrote:
I also see no reason why Yarnc would be dropped. Yarnc may or may not be worthy of the PR next month, but his failure tonight to respond to Stork's one base tech doesn't help matters. Yeah,but that's one game. Everybody fucks up once in a while. But he is in both league,is good in WL and has decent chances in MSL,although having to face Bisu doesn't increase his chances of qualifying in the OSL,but still,I think Yarnc is an impressive player,and doesn't deserve to be dropped from the PR,yet(there are still at least two weeks).
It's just one game, but it showed how badly he responded to a non-FE build which he scouted. That's all. I originally thought his ZvP was okay as long as he wasn't playing Jangbi. But that game was quite pretty bad.
On February 12 2009 11:11 Avidkeystamper wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2009 01:50 baubo wrote:While Jaedong may or may not be better than Jangbi, I don't know why you use his win against Kal and Sunny as examples. If anything, those games prove squat. If Sunny was even an average TvZer who practices normally, Jaedong would've lost that game. Sunny lost that game because he just doesn't have the late-game terran control of a normal progamer. As for OSL, winning ZvP on Tears of the Moon doesn't exactly require gosu skills. That said, I wouldn't mind putting Jaedong above Jangbi. On February 12 2009 00:31 Darth Peter wrote:
I also see no reason why Yarnc would be dropped. Yarnc may or may not be worthy of the PR next month, but his failure tonight to respond to Stork's one base tech doesn't help matters. His game vs Kal may not prove anything but his game vs Suny definitely shows his skill. Yes, it was his fault that he got into the mess vs Suny, but it was his skill that pulled for him in the end. Who can't just say he beat a crappy player. That game showecased a lot of strength from both players.
Skills to do what? Scourge undefended SVs which were standing still? And then put down swarms at will because there was no SV cloud to irradiate defilers?
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On February 12 2009 17:37 baubo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2009 03:19 Darth Peter wrote:On February 12 2009 01:50 baubo wrote:While Jaedong may or may not be better than Jangbi, I don't know why you use his win against Kal and Sunny as examples. If anything, those games prove squat. If Sunny was even an average TvZer who practices normally, Jaedong would've lost that game. Sunny lost that game because he just doesn't have the late-game terran control of a normal progamer. As for OSL, winning ZvP on Tears of the Moon doesn't exactly require gosu skills. That said, I wouldn't mind putting Jaedong above Jangbi. On February 12 2009 00:31 Darth Peter wrote:
I also see no reason why Yarnc would be dropped. Yarnc may or may not be worthy of the PR next month, but his failure tonight to respond to Stork's one base tech doesn't help matters. Yeah,but that's one game. Everybody fucks up once in a while. But he is in both league,is good in WL and has decent chances in MSL,although having to face Bisu doesn't increase his chances of qualifying in the OSL,but still,I think Yarnc is an impressive player,and doesn't deserve to be dropped from the PR,yet(there are still at least two weeks). It's just one game, but it showed how badly he responded to a non-FE build which he scouted. That's all. I originally thought his ZvP was okay as long as he wasn't playing Jangbi. But that game was quite pretty bad. Show nested quote +On February 12 2009 11:11 Avidkeystamper wrote:On February 12 2009 01:50 baubo wrote:While Jaedong may or may not be better than Jangbi, I don't know why you use his win against Kal and Sunny as examples. If anything, those games prove squat. If Sunny was even an average TvZer who practices normally, Jaedong would've lost that game. Sunny lost that game because he just doesn't have the late-game terran control of a normal progamer. As for OSL, winning ZvP on Tears of the Moon doesn't exactly require gosu skills. That said, I wouldn't mind putting Jaedong above Jangbi. On February 12 2009 00:31 Darth Peter wrote:
I also see no reason why Yarnc would be dropped. Yarnc may or may not be worthy of the PR next month, but his failure tonight to respond to Stork's one base tech doesn't help matters. His game vs Kal may not prove anything but his game vs Suny definitely shows his skill. Yes, it was his fault that he got into the mess vs Suny, but it was his skill that pulled for him in the end. Who can't just say he beat a crappy player. That game showecased a lot of strength from both players. Skills to do what? Scourge undefended SVs which were standing still? And then put down swarms at will because there was no SV cloud to irradiate defilers?
I`m tired of these haters who complain` about everything.
JD made a mistake firstly, but the way he defended was AWESOME, it doesn`t matter who the opponent was.(Well I agree if the opponent was Hwasin or someone that could defend those vessels better, JD wouldn`t have won...but that is just an "IF"). JD did well defending and recovering from an impossible situation, stop spamming excuses. This was another game that looked like JD vs Lomo, in which some people said that Lomo is JD's team mate and blablabla...sigh
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On February 12 2009 18:48 Jaeden wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2009 17:37 baubo wrote:On February 12 2009 03:19 Darth Peter wrote:On February 12 2009 01:50 baubo wrote:While Jaedong may or may not be better than Jangbi, I don't know why you use his win against Kal and Sunny as examples. If anything, those games prove squat. If Sunny was even an average TvZer who practices normally, Jaedong would've lost that game. Sunny lost that game because he just doesn't have the late-game terran control of a normal progamer. As for OSL, winning ZvP on Tears of the Moon doesn't exactly require gosu skills. That said, I wouldn't mind putting Jaedong above Jangbi. On February 12 2009 00:31 Darth Peter wrote:
I also see no reason why Yarnc would be dropped. Yarnc may or may not be worthy of the PR next month, but his failure tonight to respond to Stork's one base tech doesn't help matters. Yeah,but that's one game. Everybody fucks up once in a while. But he is in both league,is good in WL and has decent chances in MSL,although having to face Bisu doesn't increase his chances of qualifying in the OSL,but still,I think Yarnc is an impressive player,and doesn't deserve to be dropped from the PR,yet(there are still at least two weeks). It's just one game, but it showed how badly he responded to a non-FE build which he scouted. That's all. I originally thought his ZvP was okay as long as he wasn't playing Jangbi. But that game was quite pretty bad. On February 12 2009 11:11 Avidkeystamper wrote:On February 12 2009 01:50 baubo wrote:While Jaedong may or may not be better than Jangbi, I don't know why you use his win against Kal and Sunny as examples. If anything, those games prove squat. If Sunny was even an average TvZer who practices normally, Jaedong would've lost that game. Sunny lost that game because he just doesn't have the late-game terran control of a normal progamer. As for OSL, winning ZvP on Tears of the Moon doesn't exactly require gosu skills. That said, I wouldn't mind putting Jaedong above Jangbi. On February 12 2009 00:31 Darth Peter wrote:
I also see no reason why Yarnc would be dropped. Yarnc may or may not be worthy of the PR next month, but his failure tonight to respond to Stork's one base tech doesn't help matters. His game vs Kal may not prove anything but his game vs Suny definitely shows his skill. Yes, it was his fault that he got into the mess vs Suny, but it was his skill that pulled for him in the end. Who can't just say he beat a crappy player. That game showecased a lot of strength from both players. Skills to do what? Scourge undefended SVs which were standing still? And then put down swarms at will because there was no SV cloud to irradiate defilers? I`m tired of these haters who complain` about everything. JD made a mistake firstly, but the way he defended was AWESOME, it doesn`t matter who the opponent was.(Well I agree if the opponent was Hwasin or someone that could defend those vessels better, JD wouldn`t have won...but that is just an "IF"). JD did well defending and recovering from an impossible situation, stop spamming excuses. This was another game that looked like JD vs Lomo, in which some people said that Lomo is JD's team mate and blablabla...sigh
And I'm tired of people quoting me out of context. Jaedong all-killed Ace that day. His WORST game was against Sunny. So I was annoyed that someone would specifically single out that particular game to show how well Jaedong's playing.
Why can't people appreciate his one-sided rapes against Casy and Anytime, and instead point to a mistake-laden game where Jaedong made mistakes but won because of his opponent's lack of ability.
That game was long, back and forth, and entertaining. But usually, it's the non-entertaining games which are really shows skill.
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If the same criteria apply for the next power rank I would put flash at 1 even though I don't like him very much. I can't see anyone being the favorite against him atm, despite the fact that he plays >10 games a week.
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As much as I am a Bisu fan,I think right now Flash is the mot impressive player. Bisu won the Gom,but he doesn't do too well in WL. Things can change tho if Flash gets eliminated from OSL and loses some games while Bisu qualifies. I really hope that will happen.
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Flash is just on a roll, carrying his team like a slave and being a fucking stud in OSL/MSL.
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On February 12 2009 14:26 AzureEye wrote:1.  Bisu Just on fire lately. Won GOM finals and came back in MSL. No questions asked. 2.  Leta Even though his performances did not go down, Bisu took the #1 spot from playing better. Leta is still very solid player, impressive number of consistent wins 3. Flash Dismantling STX players and all-killing the strongest Team Oz is very impressive, and we can expect no less from Flash. 4.  Jaedong Despite dropping out of MSL, his loss verse Hwasin seems more like a dumb mistake of being sunken greedy that cost him the game, which cost him the MSL. He thrashed players that he recently and previously did not do well verse, such as FBH, Kal, Casy. Also a +1 for all-killing ACE. 5. Hwasin Did awesome in MSL group, and even went to beat Best (who I regarded as the favorite over him) 6. JangBi # He's shown positive results lately but losing to Bisu was expected. Since he got a free ticket out of semi finals, I can't really give him credit for winning silver in GOM. He also gets +1 for beating Zero, who has vastly improved his ZvP EDIT: Well, I'm having 2nd thoughts on putting Flash below Leta. I just can't decide
I must admit that Leta is pretty consistant and has talent, But there is no way he can be rated above flash atm.
My list would be something like
1 Bisu or Flash
2 Bisu or Flash
3 Jaedong
4 Jangbi
5 Leta
6 hwasin
etc
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im just so fucking happy with all the talent lately. A few months ago it seemed everyone was bad or inconsistent. Bisu is a god atm. Jaedong is amazing atm. Flash is a god, Leta is a Demi god. Jangbi is amazing atm. Hwasin and Luxury are fucking great. Savior is doing fantastic, as is July.
It brings tears to your eyes, doesn't it? 
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Maybe the 50th time will work: Savior for at least 10. spot next week, please =P I think he has the longest active win streak out of all the progamers.
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On February 12 2009 23:50 Shikyo wrote:
Maybe the 50th time will work: Savior for at least 10. spot next week, please =P I think he has the longest active win streak out of all the progamers.
huh? i just searched flash jaedong and bisu..
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savior has 9
or do you mean as in this moment? if so flash also has 9 and i haven't checked more than those 3
pretty wierd statement, anyway i think if he can keep this up he can get even higher. Why not, if he plays like this he can take down anyone.
Just wanna see him in some BoX soon!!
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On February 12 2009 23:50 Shikyo wrote:
Maybe the 50th time will work: Savior for at least 10. spot next week, please =P I think he has the longest active win streak out of all the progamers.
EDIT
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Where is sAviOr :[ I thought he was going to be KILLING EVERYONE in 2009.
Maybe later?
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On February 13 2009 03:23 Bub wrote:
Where is sAviOr :[ I thought he was going to be KILLING EVERYONE in 2009.
Maybe later?
he is killing everyone. wait till the next update of the PR (u have to wait a month or maybe less if Mani decides to do the next one too)
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On February 13 2009 01:47 AnOth3rDAy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2009 23:50 Shikyo wrote:
Maybe the 50th time will work: Savior for at least 10. spot next week, please =P I think he has the longest active win streak out of all the progamers. huh? i just searched flash jaedong and bisu.. 11 13 12 savior has 9 or do you mean as in this moment? if so flash also has 9 and i haven't checked more than those 3 pretty wierd statement, anyway i think if he can keep this up he can get even higher. Why not, if he plays like this he can take down anyone. Just wanna see him in some BoX soon!!
What would you intepret the word "active" as? Of course I mean at the moment. And I don't understand where you got your 9 from, since Flash is on a 8-game win streak.
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On February 13 2009 04:38 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2009 01:47 AnOth3rDAy wrote:On February 12 2009 23:50 Shikyo wrote:
Maybe the 50th time will work: Savior for at least 10. spot next week, please =P I think he has the longest active win streak out of all the progamers. huh? i just searched flash jaedong and bisu.. 11 13 12 savior has 9 or do you mean as in this moment? if so flash also has 9 and i haven't checked more than those 3 pretty wierd statement, anyway i think if he can keep this up he can get even higher. Why not, if he plays like this he can take down anyone. Just wanna see him in some BoX soon!! What would you intepret the word "active" as? Of course I mean at the moment. And I don't understand where you got your 9 from, since Flash is on a 8-game win streak.
I would have said ongoing win streak or something but whatever. I misunderstood you. yes he has the longest for now. thats good.
ah yes he's on 8 winstreak;)
omg flash allkilling stx and lecaf is unbelievable.
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On February 13 2009 05:17 AnOth3rDAy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2009 04:38 Shikyo wrote:On February 13 2009 01:47 AnOth3rDAy wrote:On February 12 2009 23:50 Shikyo wrote:
Maybe the 50th time will work: Savior for at least 10. spot next week, please =P I think he has the longest active win streak out of all the progamers. huh? i just searched flash jaedong and bisu.. 11 13 12 savior has 9 or do you mean as in this moment? if so flash also has 9 and i haven't checked more than those 3 pretty wierd statement, anyway i think if he can keep this up he can get even higher. Why not, if he plays like this he can take down anyone. Just wanna see him in some BoX soon!! What would you intepret the word "active" as? Of course I mean at the moment. And I don't understand where you got your 9 from, since Flash is on a 8-game win streak. I would have said ongoing win streak or something but whatever. I misunderstood you. yes he has the longest for now. thats good. ah yes he's on 8 winstreak;) omg flash allkilling stx and lecaf is unbelievable.
Flash is getting damn many wins during a very short period of time because of the WL, but I really hope that KTF coach would give him a break. We all know what happened the last time he played 10 games a week.
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I seriously think Flash read the power rankings, especially the 'I just can't help but feel that Flash is not so much the "Ultimate Weapon" as he is just a really good player.' - part, and now he's out to show everyone how wrong this statement is =)
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On February 12 2009 23:03 Dazed_Spy wrote:im just so fucking happy with all the talent lately. A few months ago it seemed everyone was bad or inconsistent. Bisu is a god atm. Jaedong is amazing atm. Flash is a god, Leta is a Demi god. Jangbi is amazing atm. Hwasin and Luxury are fucking great. Savior is doing fantastic, as is July. It brings tears to your eyes, doesn't it?
yes
Lot of talent gives us lot of histories and rivalries ! Something to remember in this era
I want a flash vs Jaedong in MSL and a bisu vs Flash in OSL, epic match, drama and ceremony ^^
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On February 13 2009 20:09 trollbone wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2009 23:03 Dazed_Spy wrote:im just so fucking happy with all the talent lately. A few months ago it seemed everyone was bad or inconsistent. Bisu is a god atm. Jaedong is amazing atm. Flash is a god, Leta is a Demi god. Jangbi is amazing atm. Hwasin and Luxury are fucking great. Savior is doing fantastic, as is July. It brings tears to your eyes, doesn't it? yes Lot of talent gives us lot of histories and rivalries ! Something to remember in this era I want a flash vs Jaedong in MSL and a bisu vs Flash in OSL, epic match, drama and ceremony ^^
Unfortunately we won't get a Flash vs JD in MSL because JD is already out.
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After today, flash is clearly 1.
He is owning WL,MSL, and OSL.
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