EPTPredicted Proleague Winner?
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Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
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SpiralArchitect
United States2116 Posts
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OneOther
United States10774 Posts
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alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
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Realpenguin
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ok, I feel complete now. thanks for fixing the poll. | ||
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Avidkeystamper
United States8552 Posts
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miseiler
United States1389 Posts
Thank you for updating the poll  | ||
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Legume
United States33 Posts
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Ideas
United States8073 Posts
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StalinRusH
United States734 Posts
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CDRdude
United States5625 Posts
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Harem
United States11390 Posts
On November 24 2008 08:24 alffla wrote: LLEUUCAPPPPPPPPeUUUUUUUU | ||
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GinNtoniC
Sweden2945 Posts
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Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
but they can't win it all in Bo7 | ||
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DamageControL
United States4222 Posts
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mikeymoo
Canada7170 Posts
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Trozz
Canada3454 Posts
Underdog team for the win. But Samsung is tough. | ||
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Jyvblamo
Canada13788 Posts
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gk_ender
United States717 Posts
but dark horse stars definitely make this season interesting | ||
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sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
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hi19hi19
United States163 Posts
I voted Stars because I love an underdog, but in all likelihood it'll be boring ol Khan. | ||
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mikeymoo
Canada7170 Posts
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SpiralArchitect
United States2116 Posts
On November 24 2008 09:42 mikeymoo wrote: Spiral, I think you're the only person so far to reply that isn't cheering for their team. My team sucks -_- | ||
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SynC[gm]
United States3127 Posts
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khy
United States475 Posts
ENTOOS HWAITING | ||
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G5
United States2880 Posts
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
Probably won't happen but I can hope. ;.; | ||
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knyttym
United States5797 Posts
Lecaf is 2nd since because Jaedong isn't in top form. 3rd choice would be KTF. | ||
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OneOther
United States10774 Posts
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Nitan
United States3401 Posts
On November 24 2008 08:33 Legume wrote: SKT1 is gonna prove all you haters wrong Exactly. My blind faith will overcome. | ||
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Tensai176
Canada2061 Posts
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Avidkeystamper
United States8552 Posts
On November 24 2008 13:07 OneOther wrote: I agree with kNyTTyM You would.  You leave out one lousy smiley face... | ||
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Athos
United States2484 Posts
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Avidkeystamper
United States8552 Posts
On November 24 2008 14:04 Athos wrote: Why is OGN so unpopular....they actually have a shot at this........ OGN's like the middle child, it's fun to root for the underdogs and the champions, but OGN is neither and their team has no history or drama. | ||
cgrinker
United States3824 Posts
And then we will move on for a bit | ||
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OneOther
United States10774 Posts
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imperfect
Canada1652 Posts
free free free free~~ | ||
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Februarys
Korea (South)259 Posts
Even though I might be biased, Lecaf is definately a powerhouse. ForGG + Jaedong + Lomo. (sorry Backho) It was incredible when Anytime was still there so that there was a reliable Protoss | ||
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OneOther
United States10774 Posts
On November 24 2008 15:02 Februarys wrote: wow Khan is #1? lol, well they have stork, but FBH and Jangbi don't really count as S class progamers Even though I might be biased, Lecaf is definately a powerhouse. ForGG + Jaedong + Lomo. (sorry Backho) It was incredible when Anytime was still there so that there was a reliable Protoss FBH is apparently S-class since he beat Lomo and Jaedong LOLOL FBH+Stork+Jangbi>ForGG+Jaedong+Lomo in trio battles! I like KTF..but boy do they need a competent Protoss badly. Flash+Luxury+a Protoss would be sexy | ||
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Lebesgue
4542 Posts
On November 24 2008 15:06 OneOther wrote: FBH is apparently S-class since he beat Lomo and Jaedong LOLOL FBH+Stork+Jangbi>ForGG+Jaedong+Lomo in trio battles! I like KTF..but boy do they need a competent Protoss badly. Flash+Luxury+a Protoss would be sexy Flash+Luxury+ "competent protoss" would be just imba I still have hope that Tempest will develope into a decent protoss. I lost hope for Lucifer some time ago... Also Sair may (I emphasis may) turend out to be a solid point of the team. If KTF has another reliable Terran that would be sexy as well as they would be able to use Flash more flexibly rather than always send him at Harmony  | ||
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StalinRusH
United States734 Posts
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OneOther
United States10774 Posts
On November 24 2008 15:22 Lebesgue wrote: Flash+Luxury+ "competent protoss" would be just imba I still have hope that Tempest will develope into a decent protoss. I lost hope for Lucifer some time ago... Also Sair may (I emphasis may) turend out to be a solid point of the team. If KTF has another reliable Terran that would be sexy as well as they would be able to use Flash more flexibly rather than always send him at Harmony http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/players/40_LuCifer/games LuCifer's gamelist is nothing but interesting. WIN WIN WIN WIN WIN WIN WIN WIN -> LOSS x10000 | ||
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Lebesgue
4542 Posts
On November 24 2008 15:27 OneOther wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/players/40_LuCifer/games LuCifer's gamelist is nothing but interesting. WIN WIN WIN WIN WIN WIN WIN WIN -> LOSS x10000 Lol. That's so true. What the hell happened with the guy...His start was quite promising and then... It turned into a disaster. The guy started to drop games to everyone. | ||
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lxginverse
Monaco1506 Posts
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baubo
China3370 Posts
On November 24 2008 15:02 Februarys wrote: wow Khan is #1? lol, well they have stork, but FBH and Jangbi don't really count as S class progamers Even though I might be biased, Lecaf is definately a powerhouse. ForGG + Jaedong + Lomo. (sorry Backho) It was incredible when Anytime was still there so that there was a reliable Protoss I'm sorry, but FBH is VERY S-class in the proleagues. He can pretty much own teams like OGN, Lecaf, and KTF because they have no tosses to counter him. MBC, Stars, and T1 are the only teams where Samsung would avoid sending FBH for ace due to possible counter. Samsung is the best team on paper. They have solid players in every race. They have depth, and they have versatility. If they have any weaknesses, it's that they can choke, although how valid is that today I don't know. | ||
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F13
United States38 Posts
On November 24 2008 15:06 OneOther wrote: FBH is apparently S-class since he beat Lomo and Jaedong LOLOL FBH+Stork+Jangbi>ForGG+Jaedong+Lomo in trio battles! I like KTF..but boy do they need a competent Protoss badly. Flash+Luxury+a Protoss would be sexy Well FBH IS S-class in TvZ, we already knew that long time ago. I'm saying he's not S class progamer overall. Jangbi cannot be compared with them, no offense. Stork and FBH, at least they're incredibly good at their best MU (Stork's godlike PvT and FBH's incredible TvZ) Oh, and you might want to check out this thread if you think about FBH's game with Jaedong: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=82796 | ||
MrHoon
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
On November 24 2008 15:02 Februarys wrote: wow Khan is #1? lol, well they have stork, but FBH and Jangbi don't really count as S class progamers Even though I might be biased, Lecaf is definately a powerhouse. ForGG + Jaedong + Lomo. (sorry Backho) It was incredible when Anytime was still there so that there was a reliable Protoss I cant believe how many people underrate FBH if he didn't do the dances and actually knew what TvP meant (hurr I beat Tempest im so 1337), we would praise the guy for his charisma and great play FBH right now is unarguably the best 2nd terran player. | ||
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OneOther
United States10774 Posts
On November 24 2008 17:12 MrHoon wrote: I cant believe how many people underrate FBH if he didn't do the dances and actually knew what TvP meant (hurr I beat Tempest im so 1337), we would praise the guy for his charisma and great play FBH right now is unarguably the best 2nd terran player. well but then again it's Februarys | ||
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RoieTRS
United States2569 Posts
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Kong John
Denmark1020 Posts
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Februarys
Korea (South)259 Posts
2nd Best T player is a bit exaggerated, I'm sure there are more people who will say the same to this Poll: Is FBH the 2nd best Terran right now? (Vote): Yes (Vote): No I said FBH was not an S class player but when did I ever say that his TvZ was not S class? Then again, its OneOther. I refuse to talk about anything Khan related with you as it leads to an obvious answer from you | ||
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OneOther
United States10774 Posts
On November 24 2008 15:02 Februarys wrote: wow Khan is #1? lol, well they have stork, but FBH and Jangbi don't really count as S class progamers Even though I might be biased, Lecaf is definately a powerhouse. ForGG + Jaedong + Lomo. (sorry Backho) It was incredible when Anytime was still there so that there was a reliable Protoss Wow there's no way KHAN can be #1 when they only have Stork! FBH and Jangbi, pshh forget them, they can't compete with forGG/Jaedong/Lomo. FBH is not S-class, he can't compete with Lecaf's elite. Oh wait, didn't FBH>Lecaf? Beat Lomo and Jaedong? | ||
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dinmsab
Malaysia2246 Posts
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ssystem
United Kingdom337 Posts
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Itachii
Poland12466 Posts
Meh, it must be Khan ! | ||
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o3.power91
Bahrain5288 Posts
2nd Favorite team: Khan 3rd Favorite team: ACE (manliest team though) Guessing to win PL: Khan PS: I would believe FBH is currently the best terran out there. It's hard to say though with the lack of terrans in starleagues  | ||
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Geo.Rion
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baubo
China3370 Posts
On November 24 2008 17:23 Februarys wrote: 2nd Best T player is a bit exaggerated, I'm sure there are more people who will say the same to this Poll: Is FBH the 2nd best Terran right now? (Vote): Yes (Vote): No I said FBH was not an S class player but when did I ever say that his TvZ was not S class? Then again, its OneOther. I refuse to talk about anything Khan related with you as it leads to an obvious answer from you Who's the 2nd best terran if not FBH? The only possible candidate if Fantasy, who's looking more and more like a one-hit wonder getting raped by Flash and conistently failing in the PLs. | ||
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Butigroove
Seychelles2061 Posts
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Norden_Ghostman
Norway3 Posts
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KnightOfNi
United States1508 Posts
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SaftKalasEmil
Sweden213 Posts
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baubo
China3370 Posts
On November 24 2008 20:52 Geo.Rion wrote: OGN having only 3 votes ot of 400+ right now? man ppl don't use their minds, OGN should be in the top 4. Of course who autovtes Lecaf or Khan it's normal, but if you don't want to vote them u have to take in consideration the current PL standings Teams severely underrated in this poll are STX and OGN. Teams severely overrated are CJ and "that group of crappy teams" who combined still have zero percent chance of title. I'd say T1 and Lecaf too but there's still plenty of time for these two big-money teams to make changes and solidify their lineups. | ||
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Plovez
Russian Federation83 Posts
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Darklight.___.
Chile11 Posts
I mean... (FBH+BCs+Dance)+Stork+Jangbi>PL | ||
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SpiralArchitect
United States2116 Posts
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Zoler
Sweden6339 Posts
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Ideas
United States8073 Posts
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Swayze
United States17 Posts
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MayorITC
Korea (South)798 Posts
I'm just curious because even your own poll disagrees with you. Not to mention the PL rankings even show that FBH is the second highest Terran. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/leagues/157_Shinhan_Proleague_08-09/player_stats But I guess you have some secret reasoning that no one else knows. And it's not blind (anti)fanboyism because that's what you're accusing OneOther of. So what is it? | ||
Elyvilon
United States13143 Posts
On November 25 2008 03:47 Ideas wrote: See when i voted i figured this poll was about who I thought was going to win, not who i wanted to win. but looking at SKT in 3rd place and OGN in last, clearly i was wrong. | ||
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R3condite
Korea (South)1541 Posts
I was very impressed by their performance the otehr day | ||
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Tensai176
Canada2061 Posts
On November 25 2008 04:32 MayorITC wrote: So Februarys, who is the second best Terran if it isn't FBH? I'm just curious because even your own poll disagrees with you. Not to mention the PL rankings even show that FBH is the second highest Terran. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/leagues/157_Shinhan_Proleague_08-09/player_stats But I guess you have some secret reasoning that no one else knows. And it's not blind (anti)fanboyism because that's what you're accusing OneOther of. So what is it? Good proleague stats are not indicative of the 2nd best terran. The 2nd best terran is going to be a bit subjective as well since FBH's TvP is god-awful. Since FBH went nowhere in OSL and basically nowhere in MSL and then winning some proleague matches where the mu's and maps can be pre-determined, doesn't mean he's #2. Fantasy's 2nd place OSL finishing and faltering a bit in proleague proves more than FBH's faltering in MSL and winning some proleague games. #1 and #2 as of now, goes to probably Flash and Fantasy. FBH is a good #3 though. Samsung vs. Lecaf ACE + Show Spoiler + FBH is a pimp though, he's won my heart after the battle cruisers lololol. Kinda makes me glad i got his autograph while i was in korea | ||
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MayorITC
Korea (South)798 Posts
But let's ignore the fact that you're too lazy to look up information. The real fault is that you don't even know the basic premises of the PL and SLs. Starleagues, due to their single elimination format, can produce inaccurate assessments of a player's skills due to irregular variables such as a player having a bad day or being knocked out really early by a S-class player. The fault of PL statistics is that records have no indication of the quality of the opponents. Thus ZerO who did not play any top-tier players is able to make it to the Top 10 PL rankings. BUT HAV E YOU SEEN FBH'S PL OPPONENTS? Lomo, Jaedong, Flash, Leta, Best, Free, Kal, Iris. And despite the high quality of his opponents, FBH still manages to be the second highest Terran in PL. Stop contradicting yourself, stop making up random shit, and stop echoing what you read on the forums without even knowing how valid it is. Until then, don't expect me to take your next post seriously. | ||
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Semagdnim
United States126 Posts
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MoRe_mInErAls
Canada1210 Posts
On November 25 2008 00:21 baubo wrote: Teams severely underrated in this poll are STX and OGN. Teams severely overrated are CJ and "that group of crappy teams" who combined still have zero percent chance of title. I'd say T1 and Lecaf too but there's still plenty of time for these two big-money teams to make changes and solidify their lineups. No way! Poll: Is CJ overrated? (Vote): Yes (Vote): No, sAviOr is underrated | ||
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DanceCommander
United States1808 Posts
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MuffinDude
United States3837 Posts
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n.DieJokes
United States3443 Posts
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cgrinker
United States3824 Posts
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thor jton
Canada62 Posts
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NiGoL
1868 Posts
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Avidkeystamper
United States8552 Posts
On November 25 2008 15:21 SassO wrote: Lecaf Oz ofc!!! ftw!! The only Sparkyz supporter in 5 pages votes for Lecaf. Lol | ||
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baubo
China3370 Posts
On November 25 2008 09:50 MoRe_mInErAls wrote: No way! Poll: Is CJ overrated? (Vote): Yes (Vote): No, sAviOr is underrated So CJ has a better team than OGN, STX, Woongjin, and MBC? | ||
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Lhyviathan
Australia975 Posts
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-Sky-
Bulgaria284 Posts
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BlinkNudie
Malaysia49 Posts
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krazymunky
United States727 Posts
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Jaeden
Romania1489 Posts
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sztuczyn
Poland694 Posts
nevermind, found it. | ||
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Fx_
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510Sushi
Azerbaijan331 Posts
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reaver_drop
Canada131 Posts
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ZooG
Sweden618 Posts
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SpiralArchitect
United States2116 Posts
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dinmsab
Malaysia2246 Posts
On November 24 2008 10:11 gk_ender wrote: khan easy but dark horse stars definitely make this season interesting After watching Zero rip apart KTF's best lineup, Im starting to become a believer. | ||
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
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Raithed
China7078 Posts
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Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17726 Posts
In other words chance of winning proleague slim | ||
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H
New Zealand6138 Posts
FUCK THA HATERZ, NADA FOR LIFE SOUTH SIDE WORD UP Sigh, they have the captain of the ship but no competent crew members. | ||
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amorpheus
Bulgaria2144 Posts
even if Pusan, Light and Sea go to SKT1 | ||
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stiga
United States377 Posts
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iloahz
United States964 Posts
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iPF[Div]
Spain572 Posts
Calm is playing quite deliciously, and if Hwasin decides to stop failing it should be a sure victory. plz, plz, stop failing hwasin. | ||
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PeAcY6969
France621 Posts
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Unbelievable237
Korea (South)78 Posts
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Lamentations
Australia211 Posts
CARN FLASH AND LUXURY! | ||
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Semagdnim
United States126 Posts
On November 25 2008 20:12 krazymunky wrote: just wondering does TL have the stats on favourite team of TL members? | ||
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Legume
United States33 Posts
Now that they have Thezerg, Boxer, Oov, Bisu, Best, Fantasy, Midas, they'll be able to kick everyone's ass. They have enough star players to face Samsung Khan and Lecaf Oz at the same time. Lemme give you a sample lineup Oov > Backho Boxer > ForGG Bisu > Jaedong SKT1 3 - 0 Lecaf Oz (meanwhile) Thezerg > Stork Best > Jangbi Fantasy > Firebathero SKT1 3 - 0 Samsung Khan | ||
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IzzyCraft
United States4487 Posts
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Avidkeystamper
United States8552 Posts
On November 27 2008 13:13 Legume wrote: SKT1! Now that they have Thezerg, Boxer, Oov, Bisu, Best, Fantasy, Midas, they'll be able to kick everyone's ass. They have enough star players to face Samsung Khan and Lecaf Oz at the same time. Lemme give you a sample lineup Oov > Backho Boxer > ForGG Bisu > Jaedong SKT1 3 - 0 Lecaf Oz (meanwhile) Thezerg > Stork Best > Jangbi Fantasy > Firebathero SKT1 3 - 0 Samsung Khan Backho>Boxer Jaedong>Best fOrGG>Bisu. Mwahahaha! I don't care about Samsung, you can three 0 them. | ||
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
On November 27 2008 13:13 Legume wrote: SKT1! Now that they have Thezerg, Boxer, Oov, Bisu, Best, Fantasy, Midas, they'll be able to kick everyone's ass. They have enough star players to face Samsung Khan and Lecaf Oz at the same time. Lemme give you a sample lineup Oov > Backho Boxer > ForGG Bisu > Jaedong SKT1 3 - 0 Lecaf Oz (meanwhile) Thezerg > Stork Best > Jangbi Fantasy > Firebathero SKT1 3 - 0 Samsung Khan Remember Tempest < Best Flash < Fantasy Firefist < Hyuk? Guess what happened Yeah, don't count on it. However I really want SKT1 to do good. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On November 27 2008 13:13 Legume wrote: SKT1! Now that they have Thezerg, Boxer, Oov, Bisu, Best, Fantasy, Midas, they'll be able to kick everyone's ass. They have enough star players to face Samsung Khan and Lecaf Oz at the same time. Lemme give you a sample lineup Oov > Backho Boxer > ForGG Bisu > Jaedong SKT1 3 - 0 Lecaf Oz (meanwhile) Thezerg > Stork Best > Jangbi Fantasy > Firebathero SKT1 3 - 0 Samsung Khan Yeah well, sure. But when I really think about it, I think that the most likely outcome indeed is 3-0. Just the other way around. | ||
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Joltskum
Sweden29 Posts
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Kuja900
United States3564 Posts
ps- not even getting into OGN | ||
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arew
Lithuania1861 Posts
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Magic-man
Czech Republic32 Posts
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ASAzerg
Canada33 Posts
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Legume
United States33 Posts
On November 28 2008 05:27 Kuja900 wrote: this poll is just a reflection of popularity not likeliness to win proleague. STX the current rank 1 team in proleague is behind estro/airforce/wemade in a "most likely to win pl" vote, this poll is a sham and is equivalent to "what is your favorite team?" ps- not even getting into OGN I sense an embittered STX soul fan. Face it, they're not gonna win Proleague. SKT1 is. | ||
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Avidkeystamper
United States8552 Posts
On November 28 2008 11:22 Legume wrote: I sense an embittered STX soul fan. Face it, they're not gonna win Proleague. SKT1 is. Nice intentional use of irony, very funny. /nosarcasm. | ||
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Avidkeystamper
United States8552 Posts
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BroodlingTwins
United States1 Post
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Shauni
4077 Posts
On November 28 2008 15:35 Avidkeystamper wrote: Lol OGN actually has 0% of the votes. Not now, I voted for them | ||
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NiGoL
1868 Posts
On November 28 2008 15:35 Avidkeystamper wrote: Lol OGN actually has 0% of the votes. That's because Everyone > OGN =D | ||
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OneOther
United States10774 Posts
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PePe QuiCoSE
Argentina1204 Posts
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hasuprotoss
United States4612 Posts
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Kuja900
United States3564 Posts
On November 28 2008 10:53 ASAzerg wrote: My top pick is obviously STX Soul. Second pick will be Woongjin Stars then finally Lecaf Oz just cause of Jaedong. exact same for me, i love them stars as of late cant get enough of them | ||
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NrG.Bamboo
United States2756 Posts
AWESOME WEMADE BEST USER OKKKKKKKK | ||
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iPF[Div]
Spain572 Posts
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Avidkeystamper
United States8552 Posts
On November 29 2008 02:53 OneOther wrote: COME ON KHAN FANS! 3 VOTES BEHIND! COME ON LECAF FANS! 3 VOTES BEHIND! GOgogogogo. | ||
Funnytoss
Taiwan1471 Posts
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foeffa
Belgium2115 Posts
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FoBuLouS
United States570 Posts
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Xiberia
Sweden634 Posts
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Guandal
Costa Rica93 Posts
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ASAzerg
Canada33 Posts
On November 29 2008 07:06 Kuja900 wrote: exact same for me, i love them stars as of late cant get enough of them Awesome, you gotta watch their latest game vs Estro. With the level of play displayed, Stars're a serious contender for this Proleague. I wish we can display the logo up to two of our favorite teams. | ||
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clazziquai
6685 Posts
Go Sea.really` | ||
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Showtime!
Canada2938 Posts
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LordWeird
United States3411 Posts
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NonConGuy
United States416 Posts
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
because i remember 2004 | ||
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Niktesla
Russian Federation3 Posts
January GOGOGO ! | ||
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klizzer
517 Posts
next season ACE is going to tear things up with YellOw! | ||
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NonConGuy
United States416 Posts
On December 01 2008 03:59 klizzer wrote: woongjin! next season ACE is going to tear things up with YellOw! as much as we would love to believe that, i dont believe ACE practice nearly enough to match with the best teams. | ||
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TYL
Philippines116 Posts
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
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YiDynasty
Korea (South)1 Post
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SoMuchBetter
Australia10606 Posts
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Puosu
6984 Posts
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Augury
United States758 Posts
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thopol
Japan4560 Posts
 Calm is heroic,  Hwasin is playing well, Modesty might become good,  Kal is just incredible... | ||
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Not_Computer
Canada2277 Posts
i'd say lecaf | ||
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KOFgokuon
United States14892 Posts
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NiGoL
1868 Posts
On December 03 2008 10:32 thopol wrote: STX is indestructible this season. Calm is heroic, Hwasin is playing well, Modesty might become good, Kal is just incredible...I don't agree at all, Lecaf Oz > STX! | ||
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ramen247
United States1256 Posts
ace can make it...seriously. | ||
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brjdrb
United States577 Posts
On December 03 2008 10:32 thopol wrote: STX is indestructible this season. Calm is heroic, Hwasin is playing well, Modesty might become good, Kal is just incredible...u left out the sumo zerg. and tossgirl | ||
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AndreiD
Romania48 Posts
All the people who think otherwise suck! | ||
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Antoonj
Sweden9 Posts
Has tossgirl even played a game at all in the PL? I also believe in STX this season! Hwasin FIGHTING!!! | ||
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