• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 04:50
CET 10:50
KST 18:50
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book6Clem wins HomeStory Cup 288HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info4herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational14
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 26-Feb 1): herO, Clem, ByuN, Classic win2RSL Season 4 announced for March-April7Weekly Cups (Jan 19-25): Bunny, Trigger, MaxPax win3Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win0BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion8
StarCraft 2
General
Clem wins HomeStory Cup 28 How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview
Tourneys
WardiTV Mondays $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $5,000 WardiTV Winter Championship 2026 HomeStory Cup 28
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ? [A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 510 Safety Violation Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion Recent recommended BW games BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Can someone share very abbreviated BW cliffnotes? StarCraft player reflex TE scores
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Strategy
Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Diablo 2 thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread EVE Corporation Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread The Games Industry And ATVI Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Play, Watch, Drink: Esports …
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1986 users

Power Rank 11/10/2008 - Page 45

Forum Index > Polls & Liquibet
Post a Reply
Prev 1 43 44 45 46 47 48 Next All
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
December 12 2008 01:22 GMT
#881
On December 12 2008 04:42 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
Jaeden he didnt do that, in his last 10 tvz he only 14nexused once and lost.

Krigstar, correct, all the 17 wins are probably not pure skill differences. Most of them are though, its just much mroe simple to look at 3 games than all the 17 games.. My point with all the stats and such was so people could easily see that flash is back in business.

It's not like i only watched his stats, i watched all his games. He is very good, he deserves top 2 power rank for next month, imo.

Im not extremely biased towards flash, simply saying that he's basically winning everything now...
I really like jaedong, but i can see his flaws and i wouldnt rank him high atm...

im trying to be objective about flash, he is playing good now, and he wins almost every game, has to count for something.. cant be compared to that many progamers right now.. its him and bisu actually.


I can't see how anyone can objectively say Flash should be ranked in front of Stork right now.
Meh
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
December 12 2008 01:23 GMT
#882
On December 12 2008 10:22 baubo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2008 04:42 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
Jaeden he didnt do that, in his last 10 tvz he only 14nexused once and lost.

Krigstar, correct, all the 17 wins are probably not pure skill differences. Most of them are though, its just much mroe simple to look at 3 games than all the 17 games.. My point with all the stats and such was so people could easily see that flash is back in business.

It's not like i only watched his stats, i watched all his games. He is very good, he deserves top 2 power rank for next month, imo.

Im not extremely biased towards flash, simply saying that he's basically winning everything now...
I really like jaedong, but i can see his flaws and i wouldnt rank him high atm...

im trying to be objective about flash, he is playing good now, and he wins almost every game, has to count for something.. cant be compared to that many progamers right now.. its him and bisu actually.


I can't see how anyone can objectively say Flash should be ranked in front of Stork right now.
Lets put it real simple like:

Stork= playing badly
Flash= playing good
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
December 12 2008 01:39 GMT
#883
On December 12 2008 10:23 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2008 10:22 baubo wrote:
On December 12 2008 04:42 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
Jaeden he didnt do that, in his last 10 tvz he only 14nexused once and lost.

Krigstar, correct, all the 17 wins are probably not pure skill differences. Most of them are though, its just much mroe simple to look at 3 games than all the 17 games.. My point with all the stats and such was so people could easily see that flash is back in business.

It's not like i only watched his stats, i watched all his games. He is very good, he deserves top 2 power rank for next month, imo.

Im not extremely biased towards flash, simply saying that he's basically winning everything now...
I really like jaedong, but i can see his flaws and i wouldnt rank him high atm...

im trying to be objective about flash, he is playing good now, and he wins almost every game, has to count for something.. cant be compared to that many progamers right now.. its him and bisu actually.


I can't see how anyone can objectively say Flash should be ranked in front of Stork right now.
Lets put it real simple like:

Stork= playing badly
Flash= playing good


Yeah, but he didn't show any mettle in series and a lot of his wins were from easier people. And he didn't win anything, didn't even get close.
Jaedong
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
December 12 2008 01:49 GMT
#884
LOL Flash over Stork is ridiculous
#1 Bisu
#2 Stork
#3 Flash(?)
seems reasonable
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
December 12 2008 01:50 GMT
#885
Btw where is steve ;;
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
December 12 2008 02:16 GMT
#886
On December 12 2008 10:39 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2008 10:23 Dazed_Spy wrote:
On December 12 2008 10:22 baubo wrote:
On December 12 2008 04:42 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
Jaeden he didnt do that, in his last 10 tvz he only 14nexused once and lost.

Krigstar, correct, all the 17 wins are probably not pure skill differences. Most of them are though, its just much mroe simple to look at 3 games than all the 17 games.. My point with all the stats and such was so people could easily see that flash is back in business.

It's not like i only watched his stats, i watched all his games. He is very good, he deserves top 2 power rank for next month, imo.

Im not extremely biased towards flash, simply saying that he's basically winning everything now...
I really like jaedong, but i can see his flaws and i wouldnt rank him high atm...

im trying to be objective about flash, he is playing good now, and he wins almost every game, has to count for something.. cant be compared to that many progamers right now.. its him and bisu actually.


I can't see how anyone can objectively say Flash should be ranked in front of Stork right now.
Lets put it real simple like:

Stork= playing badly
Flash= playing good


Yeah, but he didn't show any mettle in series and a lot of his wins were from easier people. And he didn't win anything, didn't even get close.
All thats been played this month is proleague, with a smattering of gom matches. Flash is on a strong tear and look good in his games, stork isn't. Sorry, but a month and a half after Storks win, and I've yet to see *any* evidence, besides a show match against Bisu, that he is still in form.

Starcraft is far too fucking competitive to give such a ridiculous degree of faith in one man. FORGG dropped like five spots and he looked a lot better than Stork does right now, simply because he wasn't winning everything like he ought to be, as a 1-2 player.
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
December 12 2008 02:38 GMT
#887
On December 12 2008 11:16 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2008 10:39 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On December 12 2008 10:23 Dazed_Spy wrote:
On December 12 2008 10:22 baubo wrote:
On December 12 2008 04:42 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
Jaeden he didnt do that, in his last 10 tvz he only 14nexused once and lost.

Krigstar, correct, all the 17 wins are probably not pure skill differences. Most of them are though, its just much mroe simple to look at 3 games than all the 17 games.. My point with all the stats and such was so people could easily see that flash is back in business.

It's not like i only watched his stats, i watched all his games. He is very good, he deserves top 2 power rank for next month, imo.

Im not extremely biased towards flash, simply saying that he's basically winning everything now...
I really like jaedong, but i can see his flaws and i wouldnt rank him high atm...

im trying to be objective about flash, he is playing good now, and he wins almost every game, has to count for something.. cant be compared to that many progamers right now.. its him and bisu actually.


I can't see how anyone can objectively say Flash should be ranked in front of Stork right now.
Lets put it real simple like:

Stork= playing badly
Flash= playing good


Yeah, but he didn't show any mettle in series and a lot of his wins were from easier people. And he didn't win anything, didn't even get close.
All thats been played this month is proleague, with a smattering of gom matches. Flash is on a strong tear and look good in his games, stork isn't. Sorry, but a month and a half after Storks win, and I've yet to see *any* evidence, besides a show match against Bisu, that he is still in form.

Starcraft is far too fucking competitive to give such a ridiculous degree of faith in one man. FORGG dropped like five spots and he looked a lot better than Stork does right now, simply because he wasn't winning everything like he ought to be, as a 1-2 player.


I'm sorry, but if PR doesn't even take into account the most recent starleague season, then we might as well have people like Pusan or Firebathero in the top 3 right now. I'm all for recent results, but Stork's tearing up of the starleagues isn't even 2 months old yet.

I guess haters will remain haters.

Meh
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
December 12 2008 02:47 GMT
#888
On December 12 2008 10:23 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2008 10:22 baubo wrote:
On December 12 2008 04:42 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
Jaeden he didnt do that, in his last 10 tvz he only 14nexused once and lost.

Krigstar, correct, all the 17 wins are probably not pure skill differences. Most of them are though, its just much mroe simple to look at 3 games than all the 17 games.. My point with all the stats and such was so people could easily see that flash is back in business.

It's not like i only watched his stats, i watched all his games. He is very good, he deserves top 2 power rank for next month, imo.

Im not extremely biased towards flash, simply saying that he's basically winning everything now...
I really like jaedong, but i can see his flaws and i wouldnt rank him high atm...

im trying to be objective about flash, he is playing good now, and he wins almost every game, has to count for something.. cant be compared to that many progamers right now.. its him and bisu actually.


I can't see how anyone can objectively say Flash should be ranked in front of Stork right now.
Lets put it real simple like:

Stork= playing badly
Flash= playing good


lets not get ahead of ourselves
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
December 12 2008 03:37 GMT
#889
I am a rabid Flash fan
But seriously, Flash over stork?
I mean Flash has been owning it up but its WAYYYYYY TOO EARLY to even think about putting flash over stork
dats racist
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
December 12 2008 07:18 GMT
#890
On December 12 2008 08:36 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2008 06:08 Darth Peter wrote:
Now come on Steve. I understand your busy and everything,bu than why not ask Oneother or anybody to do the rankings this month,and perhaps permanently. I see that the PR is such a great pain in the ass for you. You don't have to do it,ask somebody to write it,who actually enjoys it. I mean come on. You do this for the 4th month in a row now. You say that you are going to write the PR,say dates which are bullshit,than comes the 12-13-14th of the month and finally somebody does it for you. And next month,it's the same. I await for the PR since the 1st of December and for your comeback,and yet again you tell us bullshit. You are the best PR writer,but this cannot go on. Please do the rankings,or resign.
This.

/agree. Fakesteve rocks, but this recurring procrastination is bloody bullshit.
Jaeden
Profile Joined September 2008
Romania1489 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-12 07:20:19
December 12 2008 07:19 GMT
#891
On December 12 2008 04:42 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
Jaeden he didnt do that, in his last 10 tvz he only 14nexused once and lost.

oh c`mon...u know I wasn`t talking about his last 10 games played, nor TvZ. Until the match vs Jaedong he was goin` like 14cc in every game, and got owned because of it
I mean he could`ve easily hold with a rax after supply.
EDIT: well, enough of this, it was like 2 months ago
Boxer: " Lee Jae Dong is the best player. He`s all about the micro; he`s the player which has the most amazing control"
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
December 12 2008 07:24 GMT
#892
OMG FUCK YES! I'm going to copy this into the PR too. Whoot! 1k post! GO JD, you the kickass!
Jaedong
Phradamon
Profile Joined January 2008
Romania191 Posts
December 12 2008 09:47 GMT
#893
I said for about a week its time for a new PR so we dint have to put OSL and MSL prelims in 2 different PR's, now i see other people say the same...
C'mon is embarassing, are heading half a month and we still argur here

And PR is not every time about who plays the best, is playing good with good results, but in Steves view we had always Stork put behind (when he raped Luxury and than blamed for Lux sucks) or Sea lover (the month with no 1 PR)...
Enough with fanboism and subjectivism!

Take into consideration results and games!
I have the ultimate answer, i seek the ultimate question
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-12 11:07:47
December 12 2008 11:04 GMT
#894
+ Show Spoiler +
Firebathero failed to qualify from the OSL offliners, HoeJJa beat him.
Free got 2-0ed by the terran 1988
Jaedong qualified
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Darth Peter
Profile Joined October 2008
Romania438 Posts
December 12 2008 11:33 GMT
#895
On December 12 2008 20:04 Geo.Rion wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Firebathero failed to qualify from the OSL offliners, HoeJJa beat him.
Free got 2-0ed by the terran 1988
Jaedong qualified

+ Show Spoiler +
Jangbi also got eliminated.

Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
December 12 2008 12:05 GMT
#896
On December 12 2008 20:33 Darth Peter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2008 20:04 Geo.Rion wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Firebathero failed to qualify from the OSL offliners, HoeJJa beat him.
Free got 2-0ed by the terran 1988
Jaedong qualified

+ Show Spoiler +
Jangbi also got eliminated.




new upsets, i will wait till the whole thing finishes, so many surprises
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Burre
Profile Joined September 2008
Sweden154 Posts
December 12 2008 12:40 GMT
#897
So, are we waiting for the comments to reach 1000+ and then move on to the next powerrank?
Darth Peter
Profile Joined October 2008
Romania438 Posts
December 12 2008 13:03 GMT
#898
Oneother,please do this month's power rank too. It looks like we can wait for FS for an eternity,and we really want the PR now.
Phradamon
Profile Joined January 2008
Romania191 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-12 13:55:56
December 12 2008 13:53 GMT
#899
+ Show Spoiler +
Alot of upsets in OSL, my god (Z)sAviOr, (P)JangBi, (P)Tempest, (Z)ZerO, (Z)EffOrt, (T)firebathero, free, (T)iloveoov, (P)Pusan again, (Z)CalmThe good part of the surprise: alot of eSTRO, a nuke for CJ and KTF


I have the ultimate answer, i seek the ultimate question
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-12 14:00:18
December 12 2008 13:56 GMT
#900
On December 12 2008 22:53 Phradamon wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Alot of upsets in OSL, my god (Z)sAviOr, (P)JangBi, (P)Tempest, (Z)ZerO, (Z)EffOrt, (T)firebathero, (P)free, (T)iloveoov, (P)Pusan again, (Z)Calm


thanks, i was about to write the list.
btw + Show Spoiler +
Effort and Pusan being dropped out from both prelims and missing from the GOM too destroys every chanse for them to get into the PR


EDIT: 900th comment, funny if i remember correctly i posted the 800th comment too
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Prev 1 43 44 45 46 47 48 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 10m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech153
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 6568
Rain 5460
Flash 1267
GuemChi 804
Larva 470
actioN 354
Leta 307
Soma 219
firebathero 187
ZerO 151
[ Show more ]
Mini 85
Sharp 73
Shuttle 54
Mong 43
Mind 40
910 31
Backho 29
zelot 23
sorry 23
ggaemo 20
Noble 19
Sacsri 11
Shine 11
NaDa 5
Free 1
Dota 2
Fuzer 162
League of Legends
C9.Mang0273
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King114
Westballz50
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor292
Other Games
summit1g7312
singsing542
ZerO(Twitch)17
gofns3
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1283
BasetradeTV103
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 25
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 13
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1511
Upcoming Events
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2h 10m
WardiTV Winter Champion…
5h 10m
OSC
14h 10m
Replay Cast
23h 10m
Wardi Open
1d 2h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 7h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
LiuLi Cup
2 days
Reynor vs Creator
Maru vs Lambo
PiGosaur Monday
2 days
LiuLi Cup
3 days
Clem vs Rogue
SHIN vs Cyan
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
4 days
KCM Race Survival
4 days
LiuLi Cup
4 days
Scarlett vs TriGGeR
ByuN vs herO
Online Event
5 days
LiuLi Cup
5 days
Serral vs Zoun
Cure vs Classic
LiuLi Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Rongyi Cup S3
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W8
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
WardiTV Winter 2026
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.