Power Rank 09/15/2008 - Page 7

On September 18 2008 10:36 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Also: You know I write this thing, right? Of course I don't "get my information from TLPD". I get my information by watching every single game.

On September 18 2008 14:24 thunk wrote:


I could never watch every single game, probably why my arguments in these types of threads are pretty weak.

Traced, your PR is completely screwed up. ForGG was knocked out of the OSL in the 9th game he played in that day, and his best matchup is TvP. In the same vein, an on form Much, people usually assess his greatest weakness to be is PvT. It's been considered ridiculously lucky that Much took out ForGG in game 9.

Best's PvT is really good. He's beaten an in form Flash PvT with a carrier rush of all things on Colosseum. IMO, if you had to pick one, it'd be PvZ, but his multitask is considered superior to the average player.

On September 18 2008 14:24 thunk wrote:


I could never watch every single game, probably why my arguments in these types of threads are pretty weak.

Traced, your PR is completely screwed up. ForGG was knocked out of the OSL in the 9th game he played in that day, and his best matchup is TvP. In the same vein, an on form Much, people usually assess his greatest weakness to be is PvT. It's been considered ridiculously lucky that Much took out ForGG in game 9.

Best's PvT is really good. He's beaten an in form Flash PvT with a carrier rush of all things on Colosseum. IMO, if you had to pick one, it'd be PvZ, but his multitask is considered superior to the average player.

On September 15 2008 09:35 Kwark wrote:
Backho!
BACKHO!!
BAAAACKHOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

On September 18 2008 17:09 traced wrote:

yeah...so what are you actually arguing here? it seems like you're saying he deserves a top spot...which I agree. I only noted his vP may not be as strong as his other two matches because he's absolutely dominated great terrans and zergs lately, whereas he's actually lost to Protoss. And as was pointed out, Much and Stork both have top class PvT, and really 3 of the 4 wins were relatively non-standard - Much went quick two base carriers on RotK I think, which ForGG was unprepared for because he went for a strong mid-game push; on Andromeda he wasn't able to scout Much, who went DT drop, which was an automatic gg; against Stork on Troy, Stork went for a proxy-ish 2 base carriers build which ForGG did an admirable job in defending, wiped out Stork's original base and almost pulled out a win; and then the game on Blue Storm was pretty sick, I'm not sure if ForGG made any mistakes other than being a little too aggressive instead of settling for splitting the map, which gave Stork the chance to brilliantly hold - it seemed more Stork's win than ForGG's loss.

As for Best...I probably should have put him at 6th, thinking about it. I actually think his vT and vZ are both strong, better than people give him credit for...but he hasn't really gotten results lately. Also, correct me if I'm wrong here, but that win on Colosseum was at least partially because of his dual forges, which Flash hadn't encountered before. I mean it's a great win but it's only so telling, skillwise.

My power rank is more...dependent on sample size/regression than what you're expecting, which I think is the problem. Remember, I'm not an expert, I'm just making an amateur's list - I have to doubt.

Best's PvT is really good. He's beaten an in form Flash PvT with a carrier rush of all things on Colosseum. IMO, if you had to pick one, it'd be PvZ, but his multitask is considered superior to the average player.

On September 17 2008 04:53 Phradamon wrote:
1. Jaedong - bestmonth since november
2. Stork - raping shit, choking in finals
3. Flash - beating JD in All Star, in both leagues
4. Much - beat fOrGG, Flash, embarass FBH
5. Sea - walking over, loosing to Calm
6. July - some quiet games but good in WCG
7. Leta - very good
8. Luxury - 3rd in WCG, 1 league qualified, one lost
9. BeSt[HyO]- took beatings from all above
10. fOrGG - beat by Much and others

CNBC: JangBi, Bisu, Mind, GGPlay, Thezerg, RuBy, Midas YellOw[ArnC], BackHo,

On September 18 2008 10:32 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:

You gotta realize that the results Backho is getting are because of cheese and bad play by his opponents at fortunate moments. His two semi-final appearances are entirely coincidental, he is in no way a starleague contendor, he won't find himself qualifying for OSL round of 16 very often in the future.

On September 18 2008 22:59 IdrA wrote:

of all the things you could reference to talk about how good best is pvt, you talk about 14 nex into carrier vs a turtle terran?
lolz

On September 15 2008 10:29 ahole-surprise wrote:
Best is too high up. Since his OSL bashing, he's lost to Leta, played one game in the OSL against a washed up Zerg in GGplay, and he pounced on XvP noobs like FBH and Jangbi in the STX masters, but lost to Sea in the same event. I can't see how you justify his being "the best protoss around" and a +5 ranking boost when he hasn't done anything that separates him from the players he beat out. Yea he lost to Jaedong in the WCG but he beat an amateur and KWANRO to get to Jaedong. Stork and Much beat Forgg and Flash respectively in the WCG, Stork actually qualified. Luxury also qualified for the WCG, got -3 in the rankings, and while Best's loss to Jaedong is used in Best's favor, it's used against Luxury.
Stork has also won his last nine games if you don't count his WCG series against Jaedong, and he won those games in meaningful games, like MST and the OSL, and not freebies against XvP noobs in a meaningless invitational event.
Yes I don't like Best, but at least I have an argument.

On September 21 2008 09:52 thunk wrote:


Yea, but all the kids that beat Flash on that map went 12 nexus; the timing and stuff makes it so 12 nexus is really, really viable. And it takes balls to go carrier against a build specifically designed to take that type of stuff down. But I guess I could have chosen different examples though.

On September 24 2008 13:43 crabapple wrote:
something seriously wrong with this month's power rank.

july was 4th last month and now hes 11+ with no mention of why?