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p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
June 09 2008 08:03 GMT
#141
Does anyone know when the next batch of Offline Prelims are? I usually assume they'll be played soon after the Ro16 concludes in the OSL/MSL, which would mean they happen any time now.

I ask b/c I'm really curious to see if Pure can actually survive the prelims and play in something that isn't a PL game (giving his ranking more to go on).
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Phradamon
Profile Joined January 2008
Romania191 Posts
June 09 2008 13:36 GMT
#142
Lol, Mind beat Best in a direct battle and still is lower in PR?
Lol 2: Pure in front of Lucifer? Look at their opponents for god sakes!... Pure was doing fine only in PL, but Lucifer was on 2 individual leagues. And Lucifer was kicking ass against zerg opponents, only he had the "luck" of meeting JD...

Anyway, Kal looks a bit shaky. About Best, i put it all in the other thread, no need to go flame me again.

PS: good job NAda!
I have the ultimate answer, i seek the ultimate question
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
June 09 2008 17:50 GMT
#143
On June 09 2008 22:36 Phradamon wrote:
Lol, Mind beat Best in a direct battle and still is lower in PR?


Are you slow?

Lol 2: Pure in front of Lucifer? Look at their opponents for god sakes!... Pure was doing fine only in PL, but Lucifer was on 2 individual leagues. And Lucifer was kicking ass against zerg opponents, only he had the "luck" of meeting JD...


Lucifer was kicking ass against zerg opponents? He was 1-1 against zerg before he met Jaedong, and neither of those games was against an A class zerg let alone an S class zerg.
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
Tinithor
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1552 Posts
June 09 2008 18:19 GMT
#144
Also Lucifer just lost to Luxury, and he didnt look so good while he did it either.
"Oh-My-GOD" ... "Is many mutas, Yes?"
Chameleon
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States604 Posts
June 09 2008 19:12 GMT
#145
Ok i tried to skim through all 8 pages looking for the explanation for this but if its there i missed so i have to ask. How does jangbi go from 6th on the PR to not even getting an honorable mention? True he got eliminated from MSL but he also advanced (albeit barely) from an extremely difficult osl group (he had to face stork pvp, Best, and the fucking nada omg, he should get at least 10th just for not pissing himself when he found out he had to play Best), and i believe he went 5-1 in proleague last month with the only loss coming from Flash.
TL's #1 Horang2 fan
ThePhan2m
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Norway2751 Posts
June 09 2008 19:48 GMT
#146
On June 10 2008 04:12 chameleonia wrote:
Ok i tried to skim through all 8 pages looking for the explanation for this but if its there i missed so i have to ask. How does jangbi go from 6th on the PR to not even getting an honorable mention? True he got eliminated from MSL but he also advanced (albeit barely) from an extremely difficult osl group (he had to face stork pvp, Best, and the fucking nada omg, he should get at least 10th just for not pissing himself when he found out he had to play Best), and i believe he went 5-1 in proleague last month with the only loss coming from Flash.

because FS hates Jangbi, thats why! he only places ppl he likes on PR, like Much and Nada, not to mention Sea jumping in an out when he has one intresting game in a month.
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
June 09 2008 20:48 GMT
#147
Lucifer hasn't really looked bad vs Zerg. It's just that the only games anyone has paid any attention to were vs JD and vs Lux, who are the #1 and #2 Zerg players right now.

However, until Lucifer has played some more games against Zerg, it will be hard to see exactly how good he is in that MU.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
TarsTarkas
Profile Joined April 2007
United States169 Posts
June 09 2008 21:38 GMT
#148
On June 10 2008 04:12 chameleonia wrote:
he should get at least 10th just for not pissing himself when he found out he had to play Best


Who says he didn't piss himself when he found out he was playing Best? I'm guessing that he probably did. And I hope that this is FakeSteve's reason for Jangbi's blessed absence from this ranking.
Those who think they know everything, are very annoying to those of us who do. - Mark Twain
ScarFace
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1175 Posts
June 09 2008 22:12 GMT
#149
On June 09 2008 07:41 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2008 02:47 ScarFace wrote:
Yup, GSL should not be factored at all. Its not a legitimate league. I don't even watch it, because of that. The GSL should be considered as much as any other random special event tourny, as in, not much at all.


Some of the GSI games have been amazing, that's a pretty shitty reason not to watch it.
The GSI was a legitimate event. And yes, GSL should count, but not drastically. Its such a convoluted mess that many top tier players could [and I think have?] get eliminated before they should have, and its not even a real starleague. If a player does shit in the GSL, but alright in PL or osl/msl, he should not drop. On that same measure, if someone does great in the GSL but mediocre everywhere else, he should not rise. GSL should never be a deciding factor, more of a "icing on the cake" sort of thing.
Can you dig it?
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
June 09 2008 23:30 GMT
#150
Flash #1??, he's just 25-3 since mars.
anyone could do that
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
June 09 2008 23:37 GMT
#151
On June 10 2008 08:30 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
Flash #1??, he's just 25-3 since mars.
anyone could do that


good point! i guess i can remove him. the new and improved june power rank will be up tomorrow with this newb flash removed
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
inertinept
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Bangladesh1195 Posts
June 09 2008 23:39 GMT
#152
can some one direct me to a "cool" game of Lucifer's? I havent paid attention to him and I guess he has a Nal_ra like style?
With a gust of wind, perhaps.
Chameleon
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States604 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-10 03:36:19
June 10 2008 03:27 GMT
#153
On June 10 2008 08:39 inertinept wrote:
can some one direct me to a "cool" game of Lucifer's? I havent paid attention to him and I guess he has a Nal_ra like style?


This game got a lot of people excited about him:


also this:
TL's #1 Horang2 fan
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
June 10 2008 09:31 GMT
#154
On June 10 2008 07:12 ScarFace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2008 07:41 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On June 09 2008 02:47 ScarFace wrote:
Yup, GSL should not be factored at all. Its not a legitimate league. I don't even watch it, because of that. The GSL should be considered as much as any other random special event tourny, as in, not much at all.


Some of the GSI games have been amazing, that's a pretty shitty reason not to watch it.
The GSI was a legitimate event. And yes, GSL should count, but not drastically. Its such a convoluted mess that many top tier players could [and I think have?] get eliminated before they should have, and its not even a real starleague. If a player does shit in the GSL, but alright in PL or osl/msl, he should not drop. On that same measure, if someone does great in the GSL but mediocre everywhere else, he should not rise. GSL should never be a deciding factor, more of a "icing on the cake" sort of thing.


Well if it wasn't for GSI last season JD would have been # 1 back then and not Flash ...
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-10 09:42:02
June 10 2008 09:35 GMT
#155
On June 10 2008 04:48 ThePhan2m wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2008 04:12 chameleonia wrote:
Ok i tried to skim through all 8 pages looking for the explanation for this but if its there i missed so i have to ask. How does jangbi go from 6th on the PR to not even getting an honorable mention? True he got eliminated from MSL but he also advanced (albeit barely) from an extremely difficult osl group (he had to face stork pvp, Best, and the fucking nada omg, he should get at least 10th just for not pissing himself when he found out he had to play Best), and i believe he went 5-1 in proleague last month with the only loss coming from Flash.

because FS hates Jangbi, thats why! he only places ppl he likes on PR, like Much and Nada, not to mention Sea jumping in an out when he has one intresting game in a month.


No it is because he was dead in both leagues before this PR was made , he was 1-2 in OSL and if Nada had beaten Stork in OSL he would have been completetly dead . The tiebreaker was after this PR was made and JangBI wasn't good enough for it .
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
June 10 2008 12:43 GMT
#156
Jangbi should've been on CBNC whether or not he was out of both leagues, just like Mind. He's looked impressive lately in nearly all the games I've watched of him.
uppTagg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden473 Posts
June 10 2008 14:07 GMT
#157
Midas for CBNC... ; _ ;
men du... Tagga!
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37096 Posts
June 10 2008 15:49 GMT
#158
COME ON NADA LET'S MAKE IT TO #1 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
June 10 2008 17:30 GMT
#159
Flash and FUCKING NADA HELL YES!
ScarFace
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1175 Posts
June 10 2008 21:03 GMT
#160
On June 10 2008 18:31 raga4ka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2008 07:12 ScarFace wrote:
On June 09 2008 07:41 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On June 09 2008 02:47 ScarFace wrote:
Yup, GSL should not be factored at all. Its not a legitimate league. I don't even watch it, because of that. The GSL should be considered as much as any other random special event tourny, as in, not much at all.


Some of the GSI games have been amazing, that's a pretty shitty reason not to watch it.
The GSI was a legitimate event. And yes, GSL should count, but not drastically. Its such a convoluted mess that many top tier players could [and I think have?] get eliminated before they should have, and its not even a real starleague. If a player does shit in the GSL, but alright in PL or osl/msl, he should not drop. On that same measure, if someone does great in the GSL but mediocre everywhere else, he should not rise. GSL should never be a deciding factor, more of a "icing on the cake" sort of thing.


Well if it wasn't for GSI last season JD would have been # 1 back then and not Flash ...
OSL/MSL> GSI tipped the balance. Read the damn PR next time, it is even specifically stated.
Can you dig it?
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