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Obi-1.Kulinobi
Czech Republic162 Posts
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Manifesto7
Osaka27154 Posts
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GTR
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Manifesto7
Osaka27154 Posts
 Pusan. You need someone with some charisma, and Pusan really is a leader with that edgy attitude. As for protoss players on the team, the only other ones are fOru, Rage, and DaezanG. That whole race needs a face lift. Iris would be my second choice, replace a terran with a terran, and he is pretty badass too. | ||
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Eatme
Switzerland3919 Posts
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ToT)MidiaN(
England2183 Posts
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sundance
Slovakia3201 Posts
Iris because he is so well rounded without real weakness which I can't say about other contestants for the spot. | ||
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Matoo-
Canada1397 Posts
Why ? Because ACE's lineup is not going to be able to compete against teams like Samsung in the long run anyway. The best they can do is to create the surprise. For that purpose, they need a high-potential player, but who hasn't accomplished much yet. A player able to snipe ace matches, and maybe get to a starleague final for the first time, wearing ACE colors. Sea is the most suited for this job. | ||
alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
... i'm just an iris fan boy. but you can't deny that he did get to osl finals ;/ | ||
Hot_Bid
Braavos36379 Posts
Iris for the following reasons: - He's lived and practiced with Savior. - He's a practice nut, and it rubs off on other players. - He's a nice and decent guy (from Blizzcon). - He's still hungry (look at his recent play). You could virtually say the exact same things about Sea (substitute Bisu for Savior). But Ace really needs someone who is strong in all matchups, and Iris is pretty strong across the board while Sea has had problems with his TvZ. Yes, it's still good, but you can't deny that it's a relative weakness. So this is what separates him from Sea: - Equally strong and knowledgeable in all matchups - Comes from CJ, known for their practice and habits (most like milatary) - Has experience of pressure OSL semis and OSL finals matches (in addition to Proleague experience, which both Sea and Iris have, where Sea has more "Ace" experience) Also, Iris is... - Older (20 vs 17) While this doesn't seem like a big deal, it probably is given the Korean bigger brother / little brother respect structure and hierarchy of Proteams. While I don't doubt Sea would earn the respect of his teammates and become a leader, Iris can more quickly and easily assume the leadership role as an "older" player. | ||
Daigomi
South Africa4316 Posts
Iris is older, and you'll need to replace Boxer with a new "team captain". This unfortunately immediately disqualifies Sea. No matter how good Sea is, he still has trouble coping under his own pressure, think about how he will cope under team pressure. Furthermore, there could be some friction between the 25-26 year old players at ACE, and their 17 year old leader. The reason I chose Iris over GoRush (as GoRush is older, and could take the team captain place) is simply that Iris is still an up and coming player. Iris is still improving, while GoRush seems to be declining steadily. Sure, GoRush has done well recently, but I doubt he'll ever be at his peak again, while Iris is still heading for his peak. Pusan could be a choice, and as Mani mentioned, the boy has charisma and leadership qualities. Unfortunately his play isn't as steady as you'd like it to be. ACE is a team designed to gain some good publicity for the Airforce, and for that you need a captain that will reach the starleagues fairly regularly, or someone famous and influential like Boxer. Since none of the mentioned players could ever be Boxer, I'd have to go for reaching the starleagues. Yellow[arnc] is too much of a non-entity still. He hasn't truly done anything to distinguish himself from the crowd. Anytime would be my second choice (third is Pusan). Anytime is still young and dynamic, but he is also a mature and strong player. Being a protoss he could give the team a much needed protoss boost. All in all, I think he would be the second best choice for team captain. Finally, Iris is the closest player to Boxer. He is a strong but decent character that will most likely be able to gain the respect of his team mates without conflict. I think he would be a wonderful team captain. | ||
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Musli
Poland5130 Posts
I see Im not the only one here :D but ofc I would never trade Boxer for anyone. Even for whole teams ;-) | ||
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
Second choice would probably be Pusan. I was going to go with him at first, but on second thought, I'd take Sea in a heartbeat if I actually had to make the decision. He'd probably be better accustomed to leading at first. I don't really have any reservations about his talent, but when compared to Sea it isn't much of a contest. | ||
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minus_human
4784 Posts
How many times did Boxer beat sAviOr? That's right, NEVER. I bet Iris would take down Boxer in TvT also. That being besides the point, Iris would be a very good team leader. Very cool, very steady and calm. A mature person and a mature player, who has yet to prove potential, unlike the other poll options. Sea is simply too young to be captain - besides the age problem, there aren't any other drawbacks with Sea imo. | ||
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to miss the mark
Bosnia-Herzegovina1381 Posts
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azndsh
United States4447 Posts
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MadNeSs
Denmark1507 Posts
Sea is good, but let's be honest he's still nowhere near Iris' level. Oh and I forgot to add, Air force ace don't need at leader, they just need strong players, that's all. | ||
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asel
Germany1600 Posts
Anytime AnytimeMy 2nd choice would be  YellOw[ArnC], this guy has really portential and never fails to surprise me. | ||
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SoMuchBetter
Australia10606 Posts
I would pick GoRush from the list. he's an old school accomplished player with a sick reputation who keeps coming back with his A-game time and time again. he's also the oldest player of the list. Who was iris a year ago? Where will he be in a year from now? the same goes for sea. they're both far too young and inexperienced to lead a team. Anytime and pusan are relatively old players, but if anytime isn't on a tear, then he's nobody. pusan is the same, but without the accomplishments. As for yellow[arnc], i'm not even sure why he's on the list | ||
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MoNKeYSpanKeR
United States2869 Posts
edit: and TvT is his best match up -_- | ||
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Zerg..HerO
China148 Posts
Sea[Shield] ftw! | ||
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Luhh
Sweden2974 Posts
Reason: Not perhaps a leadertype, but definately a hero ace player who's very popular and charismatic. Let's face it, Air Force is gonna get stomped all the time, so just enjoy the ride and take what victories you can.  | ||
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FaCE_1
Canada6177 Posts
IMO, he is the next best terran and probably next #1 | ||
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KH1031
United States862 Posts
1. Age - He's old enough to be eligible for draft, but young enough to have a successful career thereafter. 2. Potential - Iris has been in Semis+Finals. Only GoRush and Anytime can rival that. 3. Personality - if the rumor of him offering his own salary for Casy's entrance to CJ was true, he's a true man. On the other hand... Sea needs to grow some hair before considered to be a man. The kid's like 16. T.T Yarnc doesn't make an impact on me, sorry. | ||
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Pressure
7326 Posts
On September 04 2007 20:11 GTR-2-Go wrote: Sea, he's basically the closest thing to Boxer on that list anyway :O | ||
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kw31
Hong Kong162 Posts
Sea[Shield] for sureACE needs to start winning ace matches and as far as I know Sea's been doing a pretty good job at winning those | ||
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Wasabi
United States3085 Posts
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MyTHicaL
France1070 Posts
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Luddite
United States2315 Posts
Also, what's up with Yarnc? Old yellow would be the perfect replacement. From these choices, I picked GoRush. He's the oldest, most experienced person there, so he would know how to lead a team. Actually, on second thought, Nada would be the perfect replacement. He knows what it's like to be the only good player on a really weak team... | ||
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Hittegods
Stockholm4641 Posts
On September 04 2007 20:09 Manifesto7 wrote: Make sure to state your reason WHY. I'd like to know WHY I'd trade away boxer | ||
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SirSimon
Sweden8 Posts
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bioboyAT
Austria1763 Posts
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jhNz
Germany2762 Posts
Pusan, i really like his style  btw: this tlpdize your post function is awesome | ||
intrigue
Washington, D.C9934 Posts
iris is a terran, extremely solid gorush is a badass veteran who's seen it all | ||
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SpArK
Canada33 Posts
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Texas
Germany2388 Posts
Pusan because I like his macro-style toss. | ||
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MarklarMarklar
Fiji1823 Posts
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Jonoman92
United States9104 Posts
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ocoini
648 Posts
Grrrr..., soso and Maynard.. | ||
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oshibori_probe
United States2934 Posts
And unlike many others he actually stuck it out in a unsponsered team, and it payed off. I also think someone like Rock would be a good trade. | ||
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bumpirate
United States122 Posts
SEA because he is good substitute for Boxer. Sea is the next future super terran. <---- Boxer called it. | ||
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Gokey
United States2722 Posts
btw, love this new trend of "fantasy progamers"... guess it started with the whole casy fiasco | ||
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
Is this just another way of asking, which one of the following is the best player? | ||
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tKd_
United States2916 Posts
On September 04 2007 22:56 minus_human wrote: Iris. A truly cold blooded, professional Terran doom device. How many times did Boxer beat sAviOr? That's right, NEVER. I bet Iris would take down Boxer in TvT also. That being besides the point, Iris would be a very good team leader. Very cool, very steady and calm. A mature person and a mature player, who has yet to prove potential, unlike the other poll options. Sea is simply too young to be captain - besides the age problem, there aren't any other drawbacks with Sea imo. boxer beat savior once on monty hall. | ||
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Q(-_-Q)
United States348 Posts
Though Sea is a close second, Sea doesn't have the well rounded edges. His TvT is godly yet he sometimes falls off in TvP. Any good team needs a balanced player and that seems like it would be IriS | ||
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
Pusan is living in the past. He may have leadership skills, but with an 11-11 record since the start of the year and most of his wins against players like Backho (which was not entirely convincing IMO), Kal (although fun to watch, 22% PVP), an out of shape intotherrainbow, frozean, HoOny, pepe and cool, he is just not anywhere near any of the other players in this poll. In fact, in order to go back to his last win against a dominant player, you have to go all the way back to January 20th when he beat Midas on tau.I mean the dude lost to Child.Anytime and GoRush, although not slumping as hard are just as much for sentimental value.GoRush has a solid 17-17 record - 2-7 in his last 9 games (all against protoss) and benefitted from a terran sAviOr. GoRush is certainly a solid player, but I wouldn't build a team around him.Anytime is a decent 26-22 record, and is the better protoss to pick, but is still by far not the strongest player in the poll, and hasnt shown the necessary consistency to build a dynasty around.Sea is a young player with lots of potential. He has a positive record in all matchups, hovering in the 60s - including a startling 27-14 record vs protoss. Even though he has arguably had some easy matchups, and has a less than stellar record vs dominant players this year, he is someone that will grow with time. Iris has a 9-4 proleague record this season, a 9-5 record for the last OGN starleague (where he finished second by a slim margin) and is almost certainly the most dominant terran.With the onset of sc2, it seems obvious that any serious team would choose Iris at almost any cost. | ||
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ArC_man
United States2798 Posts
If they are trading away Boxer, they would definitely need a new and incredibly strong leader to hold the team together. The best choice from that list would probably be Pusan, he's the only pro on that list that comes close to having the charisma and leadership of Boxer and has had experience leading MBC (along with July) to success. Anytime and Gorush would probably be 2nd and 3rd on that list. For pure skill and strength, however, I would go for Iris. He's definitely the strongest player on the list. | ||
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knyttym
United States5797 Posts
If you are looking to fill his spot as a leader, you would have to pick Pusan. GoRush doesn't seem like a leader to me and Anytime is somewhat inconsistent. | ||
FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
Both of them would be strong additions to AirForce's weak lineup, and AirForce desperately needs some Terran presence. They have ONE (lol)terran if they trade Boxer away, so it has to be a terran that fills the hole. Iris is a better choice than Sea (despite the fact that I prefer Sea as a player) because he's older and more accustomed to a rigorous training schedule already | ||
Last Romantic
United States20661 Posts
PuSan may be considered a leader, but I've always liked GoRush's badass image XP PuSan will always be concave face protoss to me. | ||
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EpiK
Korea (South)5757 Posts
Sea[Shield] because he's a very well-rounded T player and airforce needs one if they lose boxer. Woah, I just realized me and sea have the same birthday (day, month, and year..) cool | ||
Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
BoxeR, then they're losing a terran player and their most solid player (actually Mummyung or Clon might be more solid, but they're zergs). Having ChRh as the only Terran on that team would be suicide (unless Casy joins).Sea would be the safest replacement for BoxeR.As for leadership, ACE is full of veterans who I'm sure know how to lead a team correctly. | ||
mikeymoo
Canada7170 Posts
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i.play.ZERG
Canada276 Posts
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XCetron
5226 Posts
GoRush or Iris but I dont like Iris for some reason and I dont know why I chose Sea over GoRush. I kinda want Anytime to stay on his team, although OGN losing Anytime AND Casy at the same time will really hurt their standings. | ||
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estebannam
United States187 Posts
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lololol
5198 Posts
I just like his offensive style | ||
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RebelHeart
New Zealand722 Posts
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
PuSan captained his team to victory in 2006 over SKT - who lacked the leadership of boxer They need a strong leader - which pusan is | ||
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PePe QuiCoSE
Argentina1204 Posts
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SpiritAshura
United States1271 Posts
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maybenexttime
Poland5654 Posts
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merz
Sweden2760 Posts
I mean, it has to be a terran replacing him imo, because boxer is the only "solid" terran there and he's barely solid because of the lack of practice. So I'd pick Iris. | ||
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OverTheUnder
United States2929 Posts
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P_King
Russian Federation363 Posts
Iris is good too, but it seems that Sea's TvP is better... | ||
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greatmeh
Canada1964 Posts
Sea[Shield] because he has the attitude and the charisma, also it seems like hes striding for the absolute top and no one will get in his way to stop him | ||
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oshibori_probe
United States2934 Posts
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[GiTM]-Ace
United States4935 Posts
Iris is the best choice by far. He's Terran and imo on his way up in progaming. I think he could be any teams Ace player and win a starleague for the team. And he practiced with the former king of sc sAviOr | ||
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PanoRaMa
United States5069 Posts
Iris, but the thing is, you just can't trade BoxeR away if you're Air Force coach - he's the reason why the team was made in the first place (at least I assume no one would make an air force team had BoxeR been in the army instead or something). So, try to akin this to something like the Bulls trading off Jordan if he ever started to slump due to his age. He's just SO iconic, you just can't trade him.So, as saddening as it is, I think it's best alleviated by someone else that possesses a lot of charisma/fans and is also a very powerful player - Iris.HOWEVER, if the poll had included Reach or YellOw, or Nal_rA, I would've picked either of them as well, simply because I think charisma goes a LONG way here. | ||
GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
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vstar
Korea (South)693 Posts
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pat777
United States356 Posts
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
On September 05 2007 21:47 SpiritAshura wrote: sea because he's young, probably will get better than he already is but with sc2 coming out soon, how much time does he have to mature? | ||
Rekrul
Korea (South)17174 Posts
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imBLIND
United States2626 Posts
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a-game
Canada5085 Posts
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merz
Sweden2760 Posts
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JoMal
Trinidad/Tobago1177 Posts
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MooNDog.
United States81 Posts
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lastshadow
United States1372 Posts
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joeki
Sweden292 Posts
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