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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20319 Posts
May 08 2016 07:42 GMT
#21
P>T>Z>P?
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
TronJovolta
Profile Joined April 2013
United States323 Posts
May 08 2016 17:34 GMT
#22
WTF is wrong with this community? It's so very obviously Zerg.
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-08 19:09:15
May 08 2016 19:05 GMT
#23
On May 09 2016 02:34 TronJovolta wrote:
WTF is wrong with this community? It's so very obviously Zerg.


Zerg is the most played race, hence they can't admit their race is the strongest or most flexible one. At least versus protoss. How do you explain some random zerg (departure) winning against Zest (GSL Code S champion)? Well, I can't.

On May 08 2016 16:42 Cyro wrote:
P>T>Z>P?


I guess it's more or less this at the moment.
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-08 19:09:07
May 08 2016 19:08 GMT
#24
*double post by mistake*
ZertoN
Profile Joined February 2014
Germany214 Posts
May 08 2016 23:15 GMT
#25
P>Z>>>>T
"I don't like games that i need to think a lot, i am not interested in those games." - TaeJa, 2016
AvonMexicola
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands36 Posts
May 09 2016 15:28 GMT
#26
I have no clue what the strongest race is atm, because the map pool is so completely retarded.
With this map pool zerg is strongest easy, because Prion and Korhal should be unwinnable for an equally skilled protoss and terran.
With a kEspa map pool, I think protoss could get more scary.
Life is unfair, kill yourself or get over it
SmileZerg
Profile Joined March 2012
United States543 Posts
May 09 2016 18:14 GMT
#27
So many voting for Zerg and yet they couldn't even make it past the round of 8 in the GSL.

Maybe after the Liberator nerf there will be cause to say Zerg is second strongest.
"Show me your teeth."
NEEDZMOAR
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Sweden1277 Posts
May 09 2016 19:44 GMT
#28
On May 06 2016 09:06 Shield wrote:
Some people vote for a race just because last GSL Code S was won by protoss. I think you should vote in general. The truth is protoss is the least played race. It doesn't make sense if the strongest race is the least played race. Some could say fun is more important but there are a lot of people in sc2 who are happy to play whatever is the strongest not the most fun.





people dont raceswap to FOTM during an expansion, thats ridicilous.




I think all races are pretty balanced now but protoss seem to have a slight edge in PvT
NEEDZMOAR
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Sweden1277 Posts
May 09 2016 19:45 GMT
#29
On May 09 2016 04:05 Shield wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2016 02:34 TronJovolta wrote:
WTF is wrong with this community? It's so very obviously Zerg.


Zerg is the most played race, hence they can't admit their race is the strongest or most flexible one. At least versus protoss. How do you explain some random zerg (departure) winning against Zest (GSL Code S champion)? Well, I can't.

Show nested quote +
On May 08 2016 16:42 Cyro wrote:
P>T>Z>P?


I guess it's more or less this at the moment.


How about the fact that zest played like dogshit?
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-09 22:33:44
May 09 2016 22:33 GMT
#30
The vote misses the "all races are equally strong" option.

I really think balance is decided by the meta and mappool right now.

Of course there are phases in the game where one race is stronger than the others and some units are too strong compared to others, but that's how sc2 is designed and overall it seems very balanced to me right now.

Just because Protoss in theory has an almost unbeatable late game composition it does not make them imbalanced, since they are weaker in other aspects.

Well that's my opionion.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Topher_Doll
Profile Joined August 2015
United States76 Posts
May 09 2016 22:33 GMT
#31
While I hate polls like these I do find it funny how the tables have turned. Wasn't long ago Protoss player were supposedly leaving the game in droves and it was impossible to win and the maps all meant Protoss would never make it far in tournaments ever.

Ah the internet, we love you.
I'm a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
ThaReckoning
Profile Joined January 2011
United States197 Posts
May 10 2016 02:08 GMT
#32
Yeah protoss is always the most hated in every poll, people have some seriously flawed ideas about what their protoss opponents are doing or something. There's a reason overall protoss winrates average out in the 40's, and have for like six years (other than those few months at the end of 2013 that terrans forgot how to count pylons or send reapers around the map for proxies). There's a reason protoss is 20% of the top of ladder, while the other races are overrepresented. I can promise you it's not because protoss is the most powerful, zest or not.
If you want to make one goal, to win, you must lose.
My_Fake_Plastic_Luv
Profile Joined March 2010
United States257 Posts
May 10 2016 07:30 GMT
#33
Protoss is the strongest, but only if you know how to play it well... for instance, no-one is using adepts and warp prisms well at lower levels
Its going to be a glorious day, I feel my luck could change
RedAlice
Profile Joined April 2016
51 Posts
May 11 2016 09:33 GMT
#34
On May 06 2016 11:49 Beelzebub1 wrote:
Protoss seems very powerful both on ladder and at the highest level of play, having a plethora of powerful macro and aggression builds along with the easiest to control end game gives them the edge in the meta.

Just because they are the least played doesn't mean they aren't the strongest, meta game shifts either chases people away or brings them back, if protoss remain this strong I guarantee we will see more protons on ladder.

Being the least played race means that ladder protons players get plenty of practice vs Terran and zerg, while Terran and zerg players get comparatively much less practice against protons opponents.

It is nonsense yelling protoss being easy to play if you did actually try it. Z is easiest in micro by far and Protoss has the least tolerence of any mistake
Hurricaned
Profile Joined October 2011
France126 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-11 14:58:18
May 11 2016 14:57 GMT
#35
As a terran I feel like protoss is just too strong right now. It's always ahead economically. It has a lot of cheeses that are very powerful where theres little to no cheese that works as terran. Protoss late game army (air + storms) is simply unmatched by any terran composition and terran can not be aggressive until a long time because MSC defends so well. It's basically WoL PvT but instead of terran being strong in mid game it is now weak all game.
Zerg has a very strong late game and in fact I don't know how to deal with a maxed hive army but Terran finally got a unit that could deal with mass mutas and terran can still do mid game timing so the matchup isn't as bad as PvT.
I have no clue about PvZ though.
Lightrush
Profile Joined July 2015
Bulgaria164 Posts
May 11 2016 18:18 GMT
#36
It's hard for me to decide on which race is currently the strongest, having that garbage map pool :/
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Play3rFTW
Profile Joined May 2016
United States3 Posts
May 11 2016 21:44 GMT
#37
On May 06 2016 09:06 Shield wrote:
Some people vote for a race just because last GSL Code S was won by protoss. I think you should vote in general. The truth is protoss is the least played race. It doesn't make sense if the strongest race is the least played race. Some could say fun is more important but there are a lot of people in sc2 who are happy to play whatever is the strongest not the most fun.

I completely agree with you everyone believes that just because a world championship tier player won with that specific race/faction the believe that one is currently the strongest. It's not so much the race/faction you play it's the way you play and know what to play when to play it.
When life gives you lemons...Life is now blind
Beelzebub1
Profile Joined May 2015
1004 Posts
May 12 2016 17:05 GMT
#38
On May 10 2016 04:45 NEEDZMOAR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2016 04:05 Shield wrote:
On May 09 2016 02:34 TronJovolta wrote:
WTF is wrong with this community? It's so very obviously Zerg.


Zerg is the most played race, hence they can't admit their race is the strongest or most flexible one. At least versus protoss. How do you explain some random zerg (departure) winning against Zest (GSL Code S champion)? Well, I can't.

On May 08 2016 16:42 Cyro wrote:
P>T>Z>P?


I guess it's more or less this at the moment.


How about the fact that zest played like dogshit?


Uh I second this? Just because he is a top Protoss player doesn't mean he is incapable of playing badly or unbeatable.

I just saw a Proleague game where he made an obvious bad but small mistake, paused, tried to blame it on the hot keys, delayed the game about 20+ minutes, came back obviously tilted and got massacred by Solar ( a player he should rightfully kick the shit out of imo).

Give Departure some respect as well, he's still a Kespa player.
RaiZ
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
2813 Posts
May 13 2016 22:19 GMT
#39
Props to anyone who put that pool. Takes a lot of guts, especially in a tl.net website.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth. Oscar Wilde
MadaoDotaSc2
Profile Blog Joined September 2015
Greece35 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-14 18:49:15
May 14 2016 18:45 GMT
#40
Ex manager of Mousesports, Ad Finem Dota 2
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