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Wasabi
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States3085 Posts
February 02 2007 15:00 GMT
#21
--- Nuked ---
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
February 02 2007 15:05 GMT
#22
Mana was comparing Iris to Silver, because they have both have one matchup in which they win (TvT for Iris, ZvP for Silver). The difference is, Iris is one of the very best if not the best TvT players in the world, while Silver is alright ZvP, but not brilliant.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
February 02 2007 16:56 GMT
#23
mm
Swap light with iris and i think this list, sadly is correct ;;

power rank must be hard during the PL off-season, players like pusan who didnt make the leagues for some slump or some reason (ie group of death) dont get to showcase any games
oh well
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Profile Joined January 2006
Australia848 Posts
February 02 2007 17:02 GMT
#24
Nada should be higher, cant punish him for who he plays against. He doesn't choose the match-ups.

July should be in top10, he's been hot the last month and that is supposedly what this ranking is for.
sundance
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Slovakia3201 Posts
February 02 2007 17:25 GMT
#25
On February 02 2007 22:40 ManaBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2007 22:20 Manifesto7 wrote:
What the hell?

Yeah, GGPlay has pretty game, but he was booted out of the only league he was in by FireBatHero, who took him apart. Between those two players, they are only playing in the one league, and FBH > GGPlay. That stupid zergs record from LAST YEAR shouldnt matter, all that should matter is that you have a bias against terrn players because of the maps, and FBH >>> GGPlay all day long. There are no other results that can sway the vote.

Also, what the hell is wrong with Iris, except that he is beating everyone he faces? That MINOR LeAGUE series against a lucky mustashioed keke doesnt matter, this man is going prime time in the OSL, and that should count. More that Light anyways. This shouldnt be on his percieved skill, it should be on his results, and a 2-0 RAPING of gf is a good result.

Lastly, Iris and Zergman are going at it in the OSL. I think Zergman wil take the bo3 series, but whoever wins better be on your list next month etter.


I have a personal grudge against GGplay, so I don't want to argue against you there.

But Iris? Are you serious? His TvZ is the worst I've seen from a Top level Terran...ever. Bar none. Doggi is his daddy in TvZ. This is how pathetic it is.
Fine, the games against Keke were in a minor league, but are you implying that he could beat an OSL Zerg in a series? No chance in hell.

I can't stand Iris. The fact that he's #4 Kespa is a damn joke. He's the Silver of Terran's. As soon as he runs out of TvT MUs he'll be a walk over for his first Z or P (who am I kidding, there are non) opponent.

Iris is a complete shmuck. Stealing 1 off games in group stages from random smatterings of Zergs doesn't mean shit to me.

Bottom line, when you need to mention 2-0ing GF as the big thing a player has done this month, it's obvious why he doesn't deserve a spot.




GGplay really should have dropped off though Etter. I know you like him, but he's blown it at almost every opportunity he's gotten in the past month. Maps or not, the guy has been playing like poop in comparison to his other top Zerg counterparts. They have the same map pool as him, so that should be the bar.

With posts like this your're basically making a fool of yourself.
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puLs.ReADy
Profile Joined November 2005
Bulgaria1301 Posts
February 02 2007 18:17 GMT
#26
You should change Light to Iris and put Zergman in the list THats what I think .
KizZBG
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
u gotta skate8152 Posts
February 02 2007 18:21 GMT
#27
Up . But I'm happy Yarnc is there and Nal_rA going a bit up.
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KorvspaD
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Sweden468 Posts
February 02 2007 19:26 GMT
#28
I still think savior should be higher
for all we could have done and all that could have been...
Myxomatosis
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States2392 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-02-02 22:48:42
February 02 2007 22:29 GMT
#29
Dude, Iris was fucking leveled by KeKe, and winning your best MU in the OSL, especially aganst GF, should not give you a spot when your play has never been exhilarating.

Ok, I can see your reasons for everyone else on this list. But GGPlay?? Give me a break. Maps or not, Zergman and Yarnc put up a far better performance, against MUCH better TvZs then FBH.

The mere fact that GGPlay gave up SUCH a big lead (in the second game i believe?) shows how at the moment, he does not deserve to be on this list. Extremely poor and bias choice. You should have put Bisu, FBH or Zergman on the ten spot.
boghat
Profile Joined January 2007
United States2109 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-02-02 23:11:28
February 02 2007 23:10 GMT
#30
On February 03 2007 07:29 Myxomatosis wrote:
Dude, Iris was fucking leveled by KeKe, and winning your best MU in the OSL, especially aganst GF, should not give you a spot when your play has never been exhilarating.

Ok, I can see your reasons for everyone else on this list. But GGPlay?? Give me a break. Maps or not, Zergman and Yarnc put up a far better performance, against MUCH better TvZs then FBH.

The mere fact that GGPlay gave up SUCH a big lead (in the second game i believe?) shows how at the moment, he does not deserve to be on this list. Extremely poor and bias choice. You should have put Bisu, FBH or Zergman on the ten spot.


If you watch GGPlay's performance during games even when he loses his play may be better than Zergman, FBH, or Bisu. After watching the games he's played the past month he looks like he deserves to be on the top 10 to me. He has the skill, just not the results. The three you mentioned have been getting the results but I argue GGPlay has higher skill. I think this is where the biggest argument for this list has always come from, can someone who loses but plays great be higher than someone that wins but doesn't play as good? Etter has made this clear from the start putting Anytime over Nada that he values skill more than results I think. The problem is skill can be really subjective. But it makes for good arguments.
Myxomatosis
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States2392 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-02-03 01:20:39
February 03 2007 00:42 GMT
#31
misspost.
QuietIdiot
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
7004 Posts
February 03 2007 01:05 GMT
#32
On February 03 2007 04:26 KorvspaD wrote:
I still think savior should be higher

rofl
ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
February 03 2007 01:23 GMT
#33
On February 03 2007 02:25 sundance wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2007 22:40 ManaBlue wrote:
On February 02 2007 22:20 Manifesto7 wrote:
What the hell?

Yeah, GGPlay has pretty game, but he was booted out of the only league he was in by FireBatHero, who took him apart. Between those two players, they are only playing in the one league, and FBH > GGPlay. That stupid zergs record from LAST YEAR shouldnt matter, all that should matter is that you have a bias against terrn players because of the maps, and FBH >>> GGPlay all day long. There are no other results that can sway the vote.

Also, what the hell is wrong with Iris, except that he is beating everyone he faces? That MINOR LeAGUE series against a lucky mustashioed keke doesnt matter, this man is going prime time in the OSL, and that should count. More that Light anyways. This shouldnt be on his percieved skill, it should be on his results, and a 2-0 RAPING of gf is a good result.

Lastly, Iris and Zergman are going at it in the OSL. I think Zergman wil take the bo3 series, but whoever wins better be on your list next month etter.


I have a personal grudge against GGplay, so I don't want to argue against you there.

But Iris? Are you serious? His TvZ is the worst I've seen from a Top level Terran...ever. Bar none. Doggi is his daddy in TvZ. This is how pathetic it is.
Fine, the games against Keke were in a minor league, but are you implying that he could beat an OSL Zerg in a series? No chance in hell.

I can't stand Iris. The fact that he's #4 Kespa is a damn joke. He's the Silver of Terran's. As soon as he runs out of TvT MUs he'll be a walk over for his first Z or P (who am I kidding, there are non) opponent.

Iris is a complete shmuck. Stealing 1 off games in group stages from random smatterings of Zergs doesn't mean shit to me.

Bottom line, when you need to mention 2-0ing GF as the big thing a player has done this month, it's obvious why he doesn't deserve a spot.




GGplay really should have dropped off though Etter. I know you like him, but he's blown it at almost every opportunity he's gotten in the past month. Maps or not, the guy has been playing like poop in comparison to his other top Zerg counterparts. They have the same map pool as him, so that should be the bar.

With posts like this your're basically making a fool of yourself.


Perhaps you'de like to enlighten me to Iris' TvZ acheivements.

His TvZ is a joke and I stand behind that. Right now he's facing Zergman (who has shown a ton of weak ZvT in the past) in a bo3 on maps that are quite imbalanced.

When he get's 0-2ed, I'll ask you again why you think Iris' TvZ is worth mentioning at all when discussing professionals.
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Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
February 03 2007 02:04 GMT
#34
get off ggplay's sack already, jesus. July should be there
Terran & Potato Salad.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
February 03 2007 02:43 GMT
#35
Iris is still pretty good at TvP though. Beating Bisu isn't any small feat

And will people get off of Yarnc fucking dick. Jeez we know he used Yellow's name in the past. That "o he's fake yellow I hate him" bullshit is FUCKING OLD! OK WE GET IT! God I hate morons who run a simple joke/statement into the fucking ground. Asshats.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
February 03 2007 02:52 GMT
#36
I agree with most of Etter's analysis. This time it was hard simply because the bottom 5 were really anyone's picks.

Our top 4, maybe even top 5 were dead on for the same reasons. Much is ridiculous hot, Casy is the best next to Midas and Savior.. and I made up a slot for Ra so he couldn't be #5. lol -_-;;
I think Nada got a very deserving spot around the bottom, afterall, OSL win + qualifying so far is VERY nice despite my grudge against it. His games haven't been the best, but Nada's winning after another long hard tournament was won.
Yarc... Etter and I disagreed with before, but I promised man, I said the kid had potential and I love him. He's reminding me why he's one of the best Zergs and ZvT's around. His ZvZ is LEAPS better now and his ZvP is still hit and miss at times. Still, I like how etter handled Yarc's rank.

Etter likes Light, I do not. Hwasin's MSL has been decent. and GGplay... hmm...
I dunno about #10, but there are so many possible #10's.

Any of the bottom 3 on the list could be a #10, July could be #10, but Casy beat him at his own game, Bisu could, Zergman could... but GGPlay did barely lose to FBH.. fuckn 12 v3.

GJ Etter, High 5 and well thot out.
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ritebkatya
Profile Joined January 2007
United States22 Posts
February 03 2007 03:33 GMT
#37
*agrees with statements about midas*

*anger anger anger*
doing the dirty with your mom since 1955
sundance
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Slovakia3201 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-02-04 03:05:58
February 03 2007 04:45 GMT
#38
On February 03 2007 10:23 ManaBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2007 02:25 sundance wrote:
On February 02 2007 22:40 ManaBlue wrote:
On February 02 2007 22:20 Manifesto7 wrote:
What the hell?

Yeah, GGPlay has pretty game, but he was booted out of the only league he was in by FireBatHero, who took him apart. Between those two players, they are only playing in the one league, and FBH > GGPlay. That stupid zergs record from LAST YEAR shouldnt matter, all that should matter is that you have a bias against terrn players because of the maps, and FBH >>> GGPlay all day long. There are no other results that can sway the vote.

Also, what the hell is wrong with Iris, except that he is beating everyone he faces? That MINOR LeAGUE series against a lucky mustashioed keke doesnt matter, this man is going prime time in the OSL, and that should count. More that Light anyways. This shouldnt be on his percieved skill, it should be on his results, and a 2-0 RAPING of gf is a good result.

Lastly, Iris and Zergman are going at it in the OSL. I think Zergman wil take the bo3 series, but whoever wins better be on your list next month etter.


I have a personal grudge against GGplay, so I don't want to argue against you there.

But Iris? Are you serious? His TvZ is the worst I've seen from a Top level Terran...ever. Bar none. Doggi is his daddy in TvZ. This is how pathetic it is.
Fine, the games against Keke were in a minor league, but are you implying that he could beat an OSL Zerg in a series? No chance in hell.

I can't stand Iris. The fact that he's #4 Kespa is a damn joke. He's the Silver of Terran's. As soon as he runs out of TvT MUs he'll be a walk over for his first Z or P (who am I kidding, there are non) opponent.

Iris is a complete shmuck. Stealing 1 off games in group stages from random smatterings of Zergs doesn't mean shit to me.

Bottom line, when you need to mention 2-0ing GF as the big thing a player has done this month, it's obvious why he doesn't deserve a spot.




GGplay really should have dropped off though Etter. I know you like him, but he's blown it at almost every opportunity he's gotten in the past month. Maps or not, the guy has been playing like poop in comparison to his other top Zerg counterparts. They have the same map pool as him, so that should be the bar.

With posts like this your're basically making a fool of yourself.


Perhaps you'de like to enlighten me to Iris' TvZ acheivements.

His TvZ is a joke and I stand behind that. Right now he's facing Zergman (who has shown a ton of weak ZvT in the past) in a bo3 on maps that are quite imbalanced.

When he get's 0-2ed, I'll ask you again why you think Iris' TvZ is worth mentioning at all when discussing professionals.

I'm talking about his TvP but his TvZ is not that bad as like to say on every occasion.
Your exaggerating and "witty" comments when it comes to players skill are getting really annoying.
You're forcing your views as the facts on every occasion.
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NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7229 Posts
February 03 2007 05:55 GMT
#39
Here's some facts. There won't be any protoss players for him to face when Savior kills Much. And Iris just got pwnraped by Keke 2-0 on RLT and Longinus in MBC Survivor League. If you watched those games you'd know Iris is a big dog against Zergman.
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One Page Memory
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Bulgaria2145 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-02-03 07:22:26
February 03 2007 06:47 GMT
#40
Added: For comparison, Nada is 5-3, and FirebatHero is 4-4--and they're both still in.

Nada is 6-3. 8 TvT and one TvP. Just watch all the hell loose on the first zerg he meets, fake yellow. And Nada is 4-1 in MBC cycle.
And for the January Nada is 5-1 in OSL and 2-0 in MBC - 87,5 %!
Find me one person who thinks 7-1 is a "a combination of maps and good luck"
And what "a combination of maps" when all 6 games for January in OSL were mirror TvT?
Jin Youngsoo before game with Savior: But, I demanded myself (of composure) by saying: Same old, same old - only a Zerg, only a Zerg
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