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Power Rank 02/02/2007

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DJEtterStyle
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
United States2766 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-02-02 11:24:34
February 02 2007 10:21 GMT
#1
Close, but no cigar...

Zergman – Your ZvZ has been strong for a while, and you’re finally showing the potential for ZvT competence—but I need to see more.

Bisu – Your play against Light was sloppy, sloppy, sloppy. You only won because Light has a habit of using really stupid builds at times. And I say this as someone with a passionate love for you.

Up – What the hell were you thinking? You had an strong economic advantage against Nada, and instead of just out-massing him, you decided to… to… waste all your money on missile turrets and battlecruisers? Get out of my sight.

FirebatHero – I like you—and you’re a pretty decent player—but you do not deserve your current spot in the OSL. Casy is going to dominate you.

Bifrost – You and I both know that the only reason I even mentioned you in this section of the Power Rankings is because of Desert Fox.

Iris – You are always warm, never hot, and your TvZ is god-awful. That display against Nal_Keke was pathetic.

Added because of SiZ.FaNtAsY's very reasonable request:

July - Your game against GoodFriend was the absolute worst play I have ever seen from a professional BW player. It left such a bad taste in my mouth that I only considered you very briefly for the #10 slot before saying, "I need more."
HonestTea *
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
5007 Posts
February 02 2007 10:30 GMT
#2
What did I say about Upmagic? Eh?
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DJEtterStyle
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
United States2766 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-02-02 10:36:28
February 02 2007 10:33 GMT
#3
On February 02 2007 19:30 HonestTea wrote:
What did I say about Upmagic? Eh?

He still wrapped up the OSL at 4-2, and he's one Bo3 away from the MSL. Don't give up on him just yet!

Added: For comparison, Nada is 5-3, and FirebatHero is 4-4--and they're both still in.
SiZ.FaNtAsY
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)1497 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-02-02 10:53:53
February 02 2007 10:38 GMT
#4
I understand if July doesn't make the list, but not even a "Close but no cigar"?
He made it to MSL for next season I think, and he did really well in the Proleague finals, beating oov, xellos and dominating the wildcards, and he performed really well agaisnt casy too, but casy is a monster. I demand my fatzerg be at least in "Close but no cigar"!

Great list by the way!

Edit: Thank you!
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Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
February 02 2007 10:45 GMT
#5
A frustrating bottom 5 indeed. None of them are really deserving, but there isn't anyone better to pick. Nice list as always Etter, will write my thoughts on it later.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
[Carlodajin]
Profile Joined January 2007
Peru306 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-02-02 10:50:39
February 02 2007 10:45 GMT
#6
AnyTime[gm] and JJu should be on the list...but for djetter they arent performing as expected T_T...
I hope they are in the next power rank...
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HonestTea *
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
5007 Posts
February 02 2007 11:16 GMT
#7
Used to be, back in the day, you needed to win more than your Dual group and two OSL group games to be recognized.

I mean, that's all he did right? You have to look at the quality of opposition.

Beating TT, JiHyun, Yellow[Arnc] (on Longinus 2!) and FireBatHero on an island map TvT.
That does NOT deserve this kind of attention. Especially when done by a Terran. Come on Etter. He doesn't belong anywhere near that list.

There's been an UpMagic in every OSL since they switched to 24-players. A guy goes 3-0 in their group against lower opponents, and he gets bumped in the elimination tourneys against quality opposition. Think of Bisu from last OSL.


That's what I said.

But anyway, I love your comments as always etter, even though I seldom agree with the ranking. Great read.
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HonestTea *
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
5007 Posts
February 02 2007 11:18 GMT
#8
On February 02 2007 19:33 DJEtterStyle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2007 19:30 HonestTea wrote:
What did I say about Upmagic? Eh?

He still wrapped up the OSL at 4-2, and he's one Bo3 away from the MSL. Don't give up on him just yet!

Added: For comparison, Nada is 5-3, and FirebatHero is 4-4--and they're both still in.


You make an excellent point. The 24-person OSL format is bullshit.
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Pressure
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
7326 Posts
February 02 2007 11:21 GMT
#9
your reasoning makes me laugh like shit etter
great update
Mirage
Profile Joined January 2007
United States36 Posts
February 02 2007 11:25 GMT
#10
Anytime[gm] should be up there :D also july should not being on the close but no cigar...That game vs. goodfriend was horrible.
boghat
Profile Joined January 2007
United States2109 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-02-02 11:29:22
February 02 2007 11:26 GMT
#11
On February 02 2007 19:45 [Carlodajin] wrote:
AnyTime[gm] and JJu should be on the list...but for djetter they arent performing as expected T_T...
I hope they are in the next power rank...


Do you understand what a power rank is at all lol?

Also- I'm glad Yarnc is in it, he deserves it, this list is about the hottest players at the moment (the past month) and he definitely is. I don't think he's that great either overall but this list is hottest in the last month and Yarnc definitely is. I said right from early on that Upmagic would be off the list. His second game against NaDa was pretty good but overall he's just not that good yet...not top 10 in the world good. I used to not like GGPlay but after watching him the past month I agree he is really really good and deserves his spot.

Overall I really really like your list. Saying the 6-10 spots don't deserve to be on the list just proves how far ahead in talent savior and midas are, and less so the other 3 in the top 5. The bottom 5 do deserve their spots as there is no one better to get them. So nice list, if I had to make one it would look almost exactly like this and that's coming from someone that has watched every OSL and MSL game from the past month; I haven't watched every proleague game but I still pretty much know how everyone is doing.
mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
February 02 2007 11:40 GMT
#12
Thanks for giving everyone some discussion fodder
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ATeddyBear
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Canada2843 Posts
February 02 2007 11:43 GMT
#13
gogogo RA
he's gonna keep climbing and your gonna LIKE IT etter m i rite?
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pOOwarrior-
Profile Joined January 2007
United States518 Posts
February 02 2007 12:02 GMT
#14
lol at "Twinkie's chance in July's hands".

Also, I don't think Anytime has had any wins lately...definitely not close to being ranked at all.
red.venom
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4651 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-02-02 12:37:42
February 02 2007 12:36 GMT
#15
On February 02 2007 20:25 Mirage wrote:
Anytime[gm] should be up there :D also july should not being on the close but no cigar...That game vs. goodfriend was horrible.


July did pretty well against Casy and at least made the 16ro of OSL. What has Anytime done lately? Nothing.

I think UpMagic and Hwasin both showed that they just arent up to the level of the rest of the top class pros. UpMagic just cant play a long game too well imo, dude comes up with nice early play but that can only work for so long. And I found it extremely symbolic that the 3rd game of his BO3 vs Nada was on Arkanoid, a map where he simply cannot do something too cheesy. He still tried but;]
Broom
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20664 Posts
February 02 2007 13:20 GMT
#16
Anytime is a joke. When was the last time he won a game? Game 4 vs NaDa? lol -_-;;

OH no wait he won ONE game vs darkelf but he got stomped anyways.

No BoxeR? Yeah, OK, so one game, but it was such an ART game. fake yellow is only on there because of two games, and BoxeR's one game was more artsy than those 2 combined anyways. And BoxeR has gotten so little practise! s2 at least a close, no cigar ^^
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Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27174 Posts
February 02 2007 13:20 GMT
#17
What the hell?

Yeah, GGPlay has pretty game, but he was booted out of the only league he was in by FireBatHero, who took him apart. Between those two players, they are only playing in the one league, and FBH > GGPlay. That stupid zergs record from LAST YEAR shouldnt matter, all that should matter is that you have a bias against terrn players because of the maps, and FBH >>> GGPlay all day long. There are no other results that can sway the vote.

Also, what the hell is wrong with Iris, except that he is beating everyone he faces? That MINOR LeAGUE series against a lucky mustashioed keke doesnt matter, this man is going prime time in the OSL, and that should count. More that Light anyways. This shouldnt be on his percieved skill, it should be on his results, and a 2-0 RAPING of gf is a good result.

Lastly, Iris and Zergman are going at it in the OSL. I think Zergman wil take the bo3 series, but whoever wins better be on your list next month etter.
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ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
February 02 2007 13:40 GMT
#18
On February 02 2007 22:20 Manifesto7 wrote:
What the hell?

Yeah, GGPlay has pretty game, but he was booted out of the only league he was in by FireBatHero, who took him apart. Between those two players, they are only playing in the one league, and FBH > GGPlay. That stupid zergs record from LAST YEAR shouldnt matter, all that should matter is that you have a bias against terrn players because of the maps, and FBH >>> GGPlay all day long. There are no other results that can sway the vote.

Also, what the hell is wrong with Iris, except that he is beating everyone he faces? That MINOR LeAGUE series against a lucky mustashioed keke doesnt matter, this man is going prime time in the OSL, and that should count. More that Light anyways. This shouldnt be on his percieved skill, it should be on his results, and a 2-0 RAPING of gf is a good result.

Lastly, Iris and Zergman are going at it in the OSL. I think Zergman wil take the bo3 series, but whoever wins better be on your list next month etter.


I have a personal grudge against GGplay, so I don't want to argue against you there.

But Iris? Are you serious? His TvZ is the worst I've seen from a Top level Terran...ever. Bar none. Doggi is his daddy in TvZ. This is how pathetic it is.
Fine, the games against Keke were in a minor league, but are you implying that he could beat an OSL Zerg in a series? No chance in hell.

I can't stand Iris. The fact that he's #4 Kespa is a damn joke. He's the Silver of Terran's. As soon as he runs out of TvT MUs he'll be a walk over for his first Z or P (who am I kidding, there are non) opponent.

Iris is a complete shmuck. Stealing 1 off games in group stages from random smatterings of Zergs doesn't mean shit to me.

Bottom line, when you need to mention 2-0ing GF as the big thing a player has done this month, it's obvious why he doesn't deserve a spot.




GGplay really should have dropped off though Etter. I know you like him, but he's blown it at almost every opportunity he's gotten in the past month. Maps or not, the guy has been playing like poop in comparison to his other top Zerg counterparts. They have the same map pool as him, so that should be the bar.
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Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-02-02 13:56:48
February 02 2007 13:55 GMT
#19
Iris is very capable TvP. He can play like shit at times (ie. vs Bisu in MSL), yes, but he also has nice games in the mu (vs Bisu in Proleague for instance).

His TvZ is bad, but not as bad as you make it out to be. And you can't compare him to Silver, because his TvT is brilliant, while Silver's ZvP isn't.

Edit: I'm one of GGPlay's biggest fans on here, but I have to admit, including him in this power rank is very generous of Etter.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7232 Posts
February 02 2007 14:27 GMT
#20
Anytime definitely can't be on this list. Scrubbing out of the OSL 0-3 is one thing but losing a bo3 to Darkelf[s.sir] on nice PvT maps is inexcusable.
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