|
On February 28 2007 16:23 Wasabi wrote:
lol now Nada as 9th is just laughable. Nobody saw Nada managing to reach the finals, eh?
On February 06 2007 15:33 SiZ.FaNtAsY wrote:
9.Nada
What's the curse again? Wtf is a curse Nada? I know, you never experienced it ^^. Even though he struggled early in the OSL, come on~~ He dominated the wildcards, and now dominated all the terrans in the OSL. Now, many people say Casy is the favorite, but I think Nada is. Why? This OSL is full of terran, and even though they were crappy opponents his record in TvT effin owns. Nada is my bet. That is if Savior is eliminated ^^.
Nope I knew this would happen.
|
|
|
I definitely didn't see it coming, and I can't see how anyone did after the group stages.
|
Seeing Nada in this OSL finals was like trying to predict Casy in OSL finals on the first Shinhan. They were not looking that strong until WildCards and after.
|
4492 Posts
On March 01 2007 05:10 SuperJongMan wrote:
Seeing Nada in this OSL finals was like trying to predict Casy in OSL finals on the first Shinhan. They were not looking that strong until WildCards and after.
Oh stop it already -_-
I said NaDa vs SaviOr finals and look how off I was? Not really. Yeah call me a fanboy, whatever.
Thing is, there are people who believe and those who don't. You don't, we get it already, really.
NaDa still rulz tho. And I believe. Denying his skill is just laughable.
-Mynock
|
I didn't deny anything.
I said it's hard to predict Nada in the finals.
There are so many reasons I can give for this including his less spectacular victories compared to a lot of others who were showing heat, including Midas.
He was last OSL's winner so you rarely expect a repeat performance. He did something unheard of 6 years, who woulda predicted that? I'm saying your prediction seems more unreasonable than mine. And I never ragged on your boy so let it go.
I said nothing untrue.
|
On March 01 2007 05:44 SuperJongMan wrote:
I didn't deny anything.
I said it's hard to predict Nada in the finals.
There are so many reasons I can give for this including his less spectacular victories compared to a lot of others who were showing heat, including Midas.
He was last OSL's winner so you rarely expect a repeat performance. He did something unheard of 6 years, who woulda predicted that? I'm saying your prediction seems more unreasonable than mine. And I never ragged on your boy so let it go.
I said nothing untrue.
It's hard to predict anything and there's no criteria to judge whose prediction is "more reasonable" or "less reasonable". It's all mental masturbation. Just look at Etter's writing -- he has horrible prediction power and yet he can justify everything he says. Discussion here isn't about getting close to the truth of things at all. It's all about making it seem like you know what you're talking about. The underlying reason why people are here is for love of the game and this mindless babble is just one manifestation of it. It doesn't mean there's any value to any of it.
|
On March 01 2007 08:22 rS.NonY wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2007 05:44 SuperJongMan wrote:
I didn't deny anything.
I said it's hard to predict Nada in the finals.
There are so many reasons I can give for this including his less spectacular victories compared to a lot of others who were showing heat, including Midas.
He was last OSL's winner so you rarely expect a repeat performance. He did something unheard of 6 years, who woulda predicted that? I'm saying your prediction seems more unreasonable than mine. And I never ragged on your boy so let it go.
I said nothing untrue. It's hard to predict anything and there's no criteria to judge whose prediction is "more reasonable" or "less reasonable". It's all mental masturbation. Just look at Etter's writing -- he has horrible prediction power and yet he can justify everything he says. Discussion here isn't about getting close to the truth of things at all. It's all about making it seem like you know what you're talking about. The underlying reason why people are here is for love of the game and this mindless babble is just one manifestation of it. It doesn't mean there's any value to any of it.
You're missing the point. Sports are fun to watch because they're unpredictable; on any day, due to any combination of things, one team or individual can beat another team or individual. That's why we keep watching. The point, then, isn't to be clairvoyant: it's to be intelligent and reasonable in your assessment of the situation. Consider this completely hypothetical football example:
Football Guy: "If it rains on Sunday, as is predicted, I give the Ravens great odds to take this game. They've got a big, fast defense that can handle the muck much, much better than the Chargers offense, and because the Raven offense is run-based, they've got the advantage there, too."
Now if the Ravens do not, in fact, have a "big, fast defense," the Chargers have an equally competent defense, the Ravens offense isn't as dependant upon the run as Football Guy would like to believe, or the Chargers offense is just that good, we end up with a lot of points of pre-game debate. And the fact that Football Guy imported the weather as a potential factor is an interesting addition to the debate, no matter if you agree with the rest of his statement or not.
But let's say it rains and the Chargers still win. Does that mean that Football Guy was any less right in his assessment? Of course not. Maybe the Chargers manager, who always previously valued skill over conditioning, ran his guys ragged in practice in anticipation of the bad weather, or maybe the Ravens runningback got injured in the first quarter. There are too many factors that go into any particular sporting event to pinpoint exactly what went right or wrong, which is why you don't see professional sports writers saying, "neener neener neener look at last week when my team won and yours lost lol ur bad at ur job !!~!!~!11~!"
The "value" to pre-game discussion is that it makes people think critically about a game that they love. It, ideally, forces them to look past who they want to win and justify, at least to themselves, who they think is actually going to win and what it's going to take for their favorite players to win. Increased understanding of a sport almost always makes it more enjoyable to watch, because you see things that others simply don't, and discussion of maps and matchups and players does just that: increases understanding of professional StarCraft. It's all in the name of making this spectator sport more fun and accessible.
Anyway: the new Power Rank will be up shortly after the MSL finals, and nothing but Bisu's position will be affected. His fate is in his hands!
|
u gotta skate8152 Posts
Bisu should be 2nd IF he beats Savior, which could happen!
|
Canada7170 Posts
Where should Bisu go?
+ Show Spoiler + Bisu might even deserve 1st... dominated Savior AND ra. (3-0). And savior's been close, 2-3 Iris, etc.
|
u gotta skate8152 Posts
|
|
|
|
|
GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
+ Show Spoiler +as much as I dislike savior, I still think it an iffy propostion at best to bump him out of #1
Regardless:
1. Savior (mayyyyyyyyyybe Bisu if you want to consider how amazing 3-0ing best PvPer and best PvZer is, and how close Savior was to losing to Hwasin/IriS/Midas, but I think we should still respect him enough to leave him #1)
2. Bisu
3. IriS (Played better against Savior than NaDa did, that's for sure, and humiliated Casy)
4-8. Casy/Midas/NaDa/Hwasin
|
+ Show Spoiler +
1. Savior (you just have to consider last few months with the superfight etc.)
2. Bisu
3. Iris (same reasons as GI)
4. NaDa
5. Casy
6. Hwasin
7 - 10 (Midas/Ra/Yarnc/Zergman/Much/FBH)
|
|
|
I almost don't know if Midas should even be on the list at all, but I really do feel that Iris should be high than Nada. Nada's play was just terrible in the final, whereas Iris nearly beat Savior and absolutely DISMANTLED Casy. Wasabi, Casy should definitely be higher than Midas. It's kinda hard to decide where to put any of the zergs who arent savior and any of the tosses who aren't bisu.
|
|
|
in all honesty
it obviously is :
1.Savior
2.NaDa
3.Bisu
4.Iris
5.Casy
|
u gotta skate8152 Posts
On March 03 2007 12:16 Wasabi wrote:Bisu should easily be around the Top 5. See? KeSPA can predict too. I'd still put Savior as #1 though. Mine would probably look like this: + Show Spoiler +
1. Savior
2. Bisu
3. Nada
4. Iris
5. Midas
I totally agree with your list 
Bisu DEFFINATELY deserves the 2nd spot.
|
|
|
|
|
|
EPT
