EPTWould you pay for SC2 unit skins?
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whitefenix
Sweden40 Posts
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
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ThomasjServo
15244 Posts
I am sure people would pay for them, at least some percentage, but I don't think the time/cash investment would be worth it. | ||
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Amestir
Netherlands2126 Posts
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ProMeTheus112
France2027 Posts
it's not even getting much better than it ever was over 3 "expansions" with weak story being told very slowly in holywood avatar-style - all looks little depth - and lesser gameplay complexity than Starcraft after attempts to destroy Starcraft's pro competitive scene and taking over the rights of broadcasting for this iteration, there will be no more feeding the blizzard cadaver from me (I stopped buying anything after Diablo 3) not that I'm against the idea of having custom unit skins for a competitive RTS game, that might not be a bad idea as long as it doesn't interfere with legibility of gameplay and with artistic coherence of units & races | ||
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ZiNKO
23 Posts
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Patate
Canada441 Posts
I've already bought SC2, I will not pay anymore. Fix the game for free, Blizzard.... | ||
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Frankenberry
Denmark302 Posts
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WightyCity
Canada887 Posts
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Mistakes
United States1102 Posts
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The3rdCatalyst
United States4 Posts
LoL seems to get somewhere between 2% to 10% of their active player base buying skins. Now, if this poll is 100% accurate (though it isn't) it would mean that 20-49% of the active player base of SCII would be willing to buy microtransactions. I'm not sure anyone could deny the SCII honey pot and not reason to not go forward with the new payment method. | ||
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kochanfe
Micronesia1338 Posts
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Vindicare605
United States16071 Posts
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TerranHwaiting
Korea (North)179 Posts
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Millet
Sweden143 Posts
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willoc
Canada1530 Posts
I wouldn't pay for anything if LoTV cost upfront money though. I doubt the game's player--base would change at all if they did that. | ||
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ninazerg
United States7291 Posts
Well, 27% so far have, but I'm assuming they misread the question or clicked the wrong button. | ||
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ChrisGardner
United States18 Posts
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monkh
United Kingdom568 Posts
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laaaaaaaamee
Australia95 Posts
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iFVeritas
Ireland29 Posts
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General_Winter
United States719 Posts
 So would every other Zerg and most toss. Patches could fund themselves. "If every Protoss would give just 5 dollars we could give you a way to take a third safely" | ||
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BeastRoW
Canada16 Posts
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NKB
United Kingdom608 Posts
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sM.Zik
Canada2547 Posts
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shin ken
Germany612 Posts
Both concepts don't lend itself too well to SC2. Individual units don't mean so much in SC2. And you're got almost no downtime in SC2 like CS or Dota to appreciate the skins. You and you're opponent are way to busy pulling off their gameplans. Those are smallscale skinpacks. Though, what WOULD work incredible in SC2 (but mean an incredible amount of manhours for the developers as well) are Minecraft style mashups/texture packs for the whole game. That would leave an impact and also tickes the player in all kinds of places  . And it's more cohesive than individual skins which could end up in a horrible mishmash.Let's say you can buy a the Broodwar pack for 10-20€/$. For this, the user interface, units models, textures, music and even particles etc. are all replaced by versions which look more like Broodwar. Maybe even add a global shader/overlay so everything looks a bit more "crumbly" like Broodwar does. I bet lots of people would buy that. Other options: - Starcrafts pack (with cell shader )- Warcraft pack (with the amounts of lore added in Warcraft in the last decade(s) you could easily replace Terrans, Zerg and Protoss units by Alliance, Scourge and maybe Drenai counterparts) - You could go nuts and reach agreements with third parties like Minecraft (which has a Skyrim (!) pack): Games Workshop are giving their licences away like crazy these days, even for bad mobile games (mabe they're short on cash?): --> Make a WH40K pack! - Speak with 20th Century Fox for the Alien vs. Predator pack - promote the latest Activision game with a pack. Bobby will be happy. - The C&C licence is not used currently - make a deal with EA (because who doesn't like money?) and do a C&C pack. The way I imagine it, you could toggle your pack of choice before the game starts in the bnet client and everything gets replaced. That way even the performance and RAM usage is more or less the same. And of course give the player a way to "test packs" (maybe restriced to custom games against the CPU). | ||
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Rikudou
Germany151 Posts
well, i guess the huge comany blizzard is just not able to make skins available for sc2, brobably because of technical issues >_> | ||
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SoniC_eu
Denmark1008 Posts
Its a no brainer. I use around 10-20 Euros a month on CS:GO items/MArketplace. I would easily us the same amount or more on Sc2. Cmon Blizz :D :D | ||
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bartus88
Netherlands491 Posts
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ferdia
Ireland13 Posts
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
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mantequilla
Turkey779 Posts
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miky_ardiente
Mexico387 Posts
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Exitor45
United States72 Posts
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SnesTea
United States11 Posts
On December 18 2014 01:23 Vindicare605 wrote: I don't know why people care about skins. I'd rather have things like different advisers or something. Because SC2 redditors seem to think they can fix the game better than Blizzard can. | ||
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robopork
United States511 Posts
On December 17 2014 13:56 The3rdCatalyst wrote: I've heard the number tossed around but it seems to vary. LoL seems to get somewhere between 2% to 10% of their active player base buying skins. Now, if this poll is 100% accurate (though it isn't) it would mean that 20-49% of the active player base of SCII would be willing to buy microtransactions. I'm not sure anyone could deny the SCII honey pot and not reason to not go forward with the new payment method. That's really interesting. But yeah, this poll doesn't really reflect the right information. No one needs to know if current active players need more incentive to play, it's whether potential new players will stick to the game more and become a regular player/viewer if you have cosmetics like this. And while I think it would really help, I think accessibility features are actually more important. Tutorials, in game build tabs, in client community sponsored video guides... shit like that. | ||
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Roachu
Sweden692 Posts
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SpaceMarineSC2
Denmark9 Posts
Its not hard to make a bunch of crap and let people buy it. People that loves the game or likes to collect skins or other stuff will use money on the game even if its something like pay 2$ for some kind of "ARENA" like in hearthstone but its very limited what u can have in sc2. I mean protraits, achievements and level.... thats it. None of these things can be used in game and i can get level 35(which is maximum) in 1 or atleast 2 days. Atleast allow me to level for fun in idk 1 month. I remember when i was a noob i liked to level in wow. So maybe allow level 150 in sc2 and then u can maybe set XP boost for 7 week which probably will earn some money. Just give us stuff to use money on doesnt even have to be a good idea. I would even buy a portrait at this point and marry christmas everyone! | ||
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Kratos13
United States12 Posts
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SigmaoctanusIV
United States3313 Posts
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Adtor
Canada82 Posts
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klipik12
United States241 Posts
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Drakorb
United Kingdom5 Posts
This also transfers to the competitive scene during player introductions. Spectators could get used to seeing a certain CC for their favourite Terran etc. | ||
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hooktits
United States972 Posts
Basicly my point is that polling people on this site isn't the greatest place to poll. I love team liquid, and me personally i don't think i would pay for skins, its not an issue of money for me its that i don't really care about um, but I have been playing starcraft since sc original came out in 1998. What made me quit playing starcraft was because once hots came out it made the game alot less fun for me(however sc2 in general made the game less fun compared to broodwar but hots killed it and now i have returned to see what happens with lotv. Any ways what i'm saying is the people who would pay for skins are not going to be voting in this poll that's the point i'm trying to make. The people voting in this poll are not the people who came to check out sc2 played it for a while then got tired of it and left. Your polling the rements of whats left of the die hard sc community that doesn't care about skins.( These people don't need skins to keep the game fresh for them) | ||
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Bastinian
Serbia177 Posts
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aeligos
United States172 Posts
I want unicorns. /kappa User was warned for this post | ||
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BaronVonOwn
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Catherine
33 Posts
On December 19 2014 02:46 laaaaaaaamee wrote: sure i would pay for skins...if my battlecruisers became dragons Someone give this man a medal. | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
or something along those lines | ||
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KalWarkov
Germany4126 Posts
i would probably spend way, way too much on it :O | ||
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KalWarkov
Germany4126 Posts
On January 01 2015 15:50 BaronVonOwn wrote: I don't understand why people think skins will solve anything. Casuals don't play Starcraft because it's too difficult, skins will have no effect for them. Hardcore gamers don't play SC2 because it has design flaws which make the game less fun, again skins do nothing. Those things need to be fixed if SC2 is going to survive. i'm sick of these "X wont solve starcrafts problems" ofc 1 of those 700 mentioned things by the community wont change starcrafts problems. but guess what. every single one will make it a little more enjoyable to play. | ||
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
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BlueFlames
Germany1756 Posts
To makes this work though you need to attract a big player-base. The more people play your game, the more liklely you are to catch a whale. So if SC2 should ever go free to play they need a lot of attractions for players that dont want to pay too. Cant hide everything behind a paywall. People have to be able to earn/ grind them. | ||
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Blargh
United States2102 Posts
Though, it would be sort of cool if you could turn off skinned units (so you just see the original), but still have the skin setting on. That way, the observers could see the neat skins that players use, and then fans might think "Oh wow, Flash uses such and such skin?! I must get it now!!" Of course, it's all sort of silly when you have multiple units. Maybe if they cost $1.00 or something inexpensive. I wouldn't mind buying one or two, if they didn't look like shit. | ||
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LordVonDerp
Austria2 Posts
On December 17 2014 09:17 Frankenberry wrote: I would pay, to able to switch off all skins :D That is so true! | ||
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tomastaz
United States976 Posts
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Champi
1422 Posts
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[PkF] Wire
France24202 Posts
EDIT : and as someone said before, yeah I'd pay to be able to disable them ^^ | ||
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Frost bitE
Malaysia27 Posts
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rotta
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Iqbust
Canada1 Post
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mantequilla
Turkey779 Posts
Sure I still watch streams, read TL and catch tournaments if one of my favourite players participate. But I just don't enjoy playing the game a bit. I even have couple friends on high masters that invite me to 2v2 3v3 games just for fun and I can't even stand those. They can win games without me doing anything and I still get frustrated. No skins or other make-up changes will make me enjoy the game, so I won't pay for a cosmetic item for a stalker that I'm not attached to. | ||
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Creager
Germany1894 Posts
On December 19 2014 01:49 monkh wrote: I bought CS:GO when it was you had to buy it to pick it up, and i;ve bought some of the super cheap skins for it, if blizzard did do it I think people that bought the game should get a large discount on skins and they shouldnt be anywhere near as dear as heros skins they are ridiculous That's what I hate about CS:GO the most... I paid fucking money for this shit and yet they wanna strip me here and there for every bit of content (which is mostly community-generated)... Gonna stick to da old method -> develop a product (yeah, until it's actually finished, no early access shit) -> name a Price and sell it so everyone can access ALL the content they paid for. | ||
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murd3r3r
Czech Republic102 Posts
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
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Bastinian
Serbia177 Posts
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Hot_Ice
139 Posts
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DeadByDawn
United Kingdom476 Posts
New overlays and advisers would be cool too. Soundtracks also. But what price? For me $5 is an easy throwaway for a Terran re-skin, maybe $10 for a really cool makeover. | ||
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zergtat
Hong Kong853 Posts
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aike
United States1629 Posts
"I wouldn't buy, but I don't mind if others do" and "I don't think there should be skins" because I feel like that would better represent the community's thoughts on the matter. Some people just don't want skins in the game at all (They could just have an option to disable them) and other people just wouldn't want to pay money for them (Some sort of in game currency could help with that)... Personally I would buy the shit out of some skins And play way more ladder games if there was some form of reward for doing so haha. People say you don't have time to look at it and whatever in game... that's not completely true, in a tournament I could see a lot of people enjoying the custom armies. Dawn of War had an army painter, something like that could be cool. So instead of an actual skin for your units, you just create a custom paint job that is applied to all of them (Similar to picking a color in game) | ||
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robson1
3632 Posts
But Skins? Nah. I'm actually only okay with skinpacks if the enemy can turn them off or if they are very subtle. However let's face it. A F2P starcraft 2 would be a real disaster: You could create unlimited smurfs which absolutely everyone would do who had at least 1 game experience of "ladder anxiety". (a price does not stop it but limits it quite alot, especially in the case of infinity). Smurfs do destroy the experience of every new or casual player thusly stopping these from playing the game, let alone becoming esports fans(...). That's why I do not agree with F2P, for sc2 (specifically disagreeing with the option "but only if f2p"). have you played broodwar? You could create unlimited online accounts. It was not a problem at all. | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24202 Posts
On December 22 2014 03:18 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: No, I wouldn't buy. And if they make skins for sc2 there needs to be option to switch them off. I don't want to see any of them. This. | ||
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MielieZA
South Africa25 Posts
Sure you need the option to turn the skins off, but that's simple enough I'm sure. I think for the casual community this will be a hook to keep them around and let's be honest...watching a game with Flash vs Life and they have their units custom skinned with unique skins will.be.awesome! So yes, I say go for it...don't see a downside here. | ||
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yocheco619
United States28 Posts
I would pay for a pack that has like 2 new full zerg skins for $4.99. Idk. I'm just not that big into milking or free-to-play mindsets. | ||
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tomastaz
United States976 Posts
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gDPhantom
New Zealand162 Posts
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syroz
France249 Posts
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ninazerg
United States7291 Posts
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lost_artz
United States366 Posts
On February 26 2015 13:59 syroz wrote: 26% would pay? Players are amazing those days. They're getting robbed but they ask for more. If a game is free I don't mind spending whatever I consider said game to be worth on Skins/Retextures | ||
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Lucifear
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SlammerSC2
77 Posts
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StatixEx
United Kingdom779 Posts
when ur in the game ur barely lookin at it anyway only the obj ur goin for, i write this after observing my play in sc and in lol, dota heros, in fact all my games, im not looking at the main guy just the part in front or the bit im going for . . .odd behavior by the human race throwing money at something ur not actally looking at . . .well at least this is what it is like for me anyway | ||
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Nezgar
Germany534 Posts
When a game gives me hundreds or thousands of entertaining hours over many years I don't see why I wouldn't spend more than 50 bucks on it. I have spend less money on Starcraft than I have spend on basically all f2p games that I played thus far. When I enjoy something for a long period of time I will spend an appropriate amount of money on it - if I have the option to do so. In order to not impede this on other players of professional gameplay you can just make them not show up when using the team-color option (green-red-yellow). This way you can play with the standard skins and watch replays or observe with the custom skins in place. Those individual player/team colors work the same way, why not skins and stuff aswell? Professional players could show their fans their individual skins without it having any consequences on their play. Everything that sets players apart from each other or somehow show their personality would be very beneficial imho. There're so many ways to do this and make stupid amounts of money from it while also making the game more accessible to players who don't like to spend a lot of money upfront on a game that they're not sure of whether they like it or not. Integrate a proper streaming service into the game client to watch tournaments together while being able to chat in your custom lobby/chat. So many awesome things one could do with the game, makes me wonder why they haven't done that yet. Dota and CS:GO are such great examples of this done well, sad to see Blizzard sleeping in this regard. | ||
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Fenrack
Germany2 Posts
I already bought the game 3 times (1 Vanilla WoL, 1 WoL CE, 1 HotS CE) so where is the point of Starcraft as a free to play thing? Money has been already put into it. I say no, to payment for skins, but i would do it anyways probably... I dont know. | ||
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y0su
Finland7871 Posts
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MidnightZL
Sweden203 Posts
On December 17 2014 05:16 ProMeTheus112 wrote: money milking is pretty ridiculous already with this game, it's not even getting much better than it ever was over 3 "expansions" with weak story being told very slowly in holywood avatar-style - all looks little depth - and lesser gameplay complexity than Starcraft after attempts to destroy Starcraft's pro competitive scene and taking over the rights of broadcasting for this iteration, there will be no more feeding the blizzard cadaver from me (I stopped buying anything after Diablo 3) not that I'm against the idea of having custom unit skins for a competitive RTS game, that might not be a bad idea as long as it doesn't interfere with legibility of gameplay and with artistic coherence of units & races I dunno what game u talked about but it was not sc2 thats for sure! | ||
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lohdon
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Daimai
Sweden762 Posts
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Dwayn
Germany949 Posts
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xenoZhang
China142 Posts
ps, ive never pay for any skins in any other games. | ||
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Dumbledore
Sweden725 Posts
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GnoM
Norway145 Posts
But I guess it's an easy way to make money. Just look at cs:go. | ||
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Stetkaer
Denmark23 Posts
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WaZuP
Germany487 Posts
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