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iCheeseUcry
Profile Joined February 2012
United States18 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-20 00:32:07
May 20 2013 00:28 GMT
#221
PVP and ZVZ both suck. not much variations can come from them.

Most entertaining match up has always been TvZ or tvt.
GuitarBizarre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom332 Posts
May 20 2013 10:45 GMT
#222
On May 19 2013 16:39 Terrasmith wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 08:22 GinDo wrote:
ZvP-Mass Air Blob is retarded. Swarm Hosts are also very boring.

TvP- Bio is retarded. Bio should be about Micro and multitasking( Like Bio TvT and TvZ), not straight-up destroying Protoss.

PvP - Once the game hits Macro Mode.


Isn't bio TvP "either you hit the EMPs and your vikings kill the colossi, or you lose"? I had the impression that the Protoss usually wins a straight up fight.


Thats exactly how it is. Whoever thinks the protoss army is at a disadvantage in TvP is off the deep end stupid. A moving it and hitting T to storm will win 10 out of 10 fights.

In comparison T has to manage EMP, viking flanks (Which are risky if the vikings can't kite back into dead space to avoid stalkers), bio splits to nullify splash damage, and also needs to stim throughout the engagement to make bio micro like stuttersteps effective.


It can be beaten, so balance isn't an issue, but it takes a lot more from the Terran than from the Protoss to win those 200 food engagements.
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ypslala
Profile Joined April 2011
Burma545 Posts
May 20 2013 18:01 GMT
#223
not a wonder TvZ is the least entertaining non-mirror. its boring and frustrating to watch and play. due to imbalance especially in early game, and after destroying eco the rest of the game its a uphill fight for zerg.
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Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
May 21 2013 00:43 GMT
#224
On May 10 2013 07:49 SwatRaven wrote:
Crap I misread it as the most interesting MU

I was trying to troll with PvP, the poll was a step ahead
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hstq
Profile Joined July 2011
Czech Republic26 Posts
May 21 2013 13:15 GMT
#225
ZvZ is really boring to watch but I like playing it ... ZvT is horrible to play, only way to win is just allin early before MMMM slowly kills you.
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Markam
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland71 Posts
May 21 2013 16:09 GMT
#226
It's good that there are so many ZvZ allins so I don't have to play muta vs muta. Same goes for watching.
Missing-No
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada50 Posts
May 21 2013 18:11 GMT
#227
zvz is fun to watch.. I don't understand.

pvz and pvp are the most stale MUs
Aleteh
Profile Joined December 2011
Denmark166 Posts
May 21 2013 18:42 GMT
#228
TvT is horrible, fucking hellbat drops everywhere. Its boring to watch, more so than muta vs muta..
The Tyrant
Drumhead
Profile Joined November 2010
24 Posts
May 21 2013 22:16 GMT
#229
when i random unranked i leave everytime i get a zvz lol
Drumhead
Profile Joined November 2010
24 Posts
May 21 2013 22:20 GMT
#230
On May 20 2013 19:45 GuitarBizarre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 16:39 Terrasmith wrote:
On May 19 2013 08:22 GinDo wrote:
ZvP-Mass Air Blob is retarded. Swarm Hosts are also very boring.

TvP- Bio is retarded. Bio should be about Micro and multitasking( Like Bio TvT and TvZ), not straight-up destroying Protoss.

PvP - Once the game hits Macro Mode.


Isn't bio TvP "either you hit the EMPs and your vikings kill the colossi, or you lose"? I had the impression that the Protoss usually wins a straight up fight.


Thats exactly how it is. Whoever thinks the protoss army is at a disadvantage in TvP is off the deep end stupid. A moving it and hitting T to storm will win 10 out of 10 fights.

In comparison T has to manage EMP, viking flanks (Which are risky if the vikings can't kite back into dead space to avoid stalkers), bio splits to nullify splash damage, and also needs to stim throughout the engagement to make bio micro like stuttersteps effective.


It can be beaten, so balance isn't an issue, but it takes a lot more from the Terran than from the Protoss to win those 200 food engagements.


pvt is the kinda matchup where if neither player can micro at all, protoss should win. But the more terran micros the more protoss has to micro back, if that makes sense at all.
RYZmooN
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada575 Posts
May 21 2013 22:26 GMT
#231
PvP, in both HotS and WoL...
How do u doto?
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
May 21 2013 23:27 GMT
#232
Based on last nights Code S Ro4 PvZ is pretty bad lol. 6 terrible games and one so bad it was fun to watch.

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dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
May 22 2013 10:58 GMT
#233
ZvZ. Just seen too much of it, tbh. PvP is probably worse, but you don't see much of that outside Proleague.
Nakwa
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden93 Posts
May 22 2013 13:45 GMT
#234
According to this poll, Terran is the all round funniest race to watch.
I agree!
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Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
May 22 2013 15:05 GMT
#235
oh LEAST ^^ i thought most entertaining and voted tvp xD ofc its zvz xD i think with everyone not vote wrong its 90% ^^
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ch4ppi
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany802 Posts
May 22 2013 16:30 GMT
#236
ZvZ by afar, since there is not really anything the player is really deciding except Cheese or not Cheese. In the end it is still the struggle to get Mutalisks out and once you are ahead in Mutas, there are only rare occasions, where you can turn a game once you are behind.
uT)WhistleR
Profile Joined May 2006
Sweden95 Posts
May 22 2013 22:00 GMT
#237
tvp
Grim Hatter
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland52 Posts
May 23 2013 13:27 GMT
#238
ZvZ and PvP.Most fun will be TvT and ZvT.
oxxo
Profile Joined February 2010
988 Posts
May 23 2013 15:34 GMT
#239
ZvZ and PvP. Best are TvZ, TvT, TvP in that order.
Jornada
Profile Joined February 2012
United States223 Posts
May 23 2013 15:44 GMT
#240
On May 10 2013 07:17 Araneae wrote:
I don't get why people hate zvz so much o.O I like it how it is now, both playing and watching, alot more fun than roach infestor vs roach infestor imo



more like Muta vs Muta dude
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