As a random player, I never understood how people lost to protoss unless you were playing against a protoss because there is a counter to everything as protoss-AS long as you scout. Scouting shouldn't even be a problem because of invisible scouting from Obs. Roaches? Infestors? Hydras? Any non-infestor broodlord army? Build colossus. See infestor broodlord on the way? 2 stargates or archon toilet tech.

For PvT the matchup is actually quite stale imo. Build colossus, transition into chargelot HT and get storm based on number of bases. You mess up micro=you lose. You micro decently=you win.

Coz

Denmark7 Posts

March 14 2012 04:05 GMT

#22

My thoughts (lategame)
P>Z (mommaship)
Z>T (snipenerf)
T>P (Emp)

Scarecrow

Korea (South)9173 Posts

March 14 2012 04:15 GMT

#23

hoping this thread is just one big ban trap for all the balance whiners

Alethios

New Zealand2765 Posts

March 14 2012 04:28 GMT

#24

Terrans are clearly the strongest race. Just look at Flash. (Not to mention Boxer, Nada and iloveoov himself).

Stipulation

United States587 Posts

March 14 2012 04:32 GMT

#25

We must keep this in mind
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Hall0wed

United States8486 Posts

March 14 2012 04:37 GMT

#26

ITS A TRAP!

Anyone who votes in this poll will be banned! Don't fall for it! >_>

samurai80

Japan4225 Posts

March 14 2012 04:42 GMT

#27

On March 14 2012 12:56 ForgeLife wrote:
protoss is SUPER weak in the early game. other than that they are the strongest, but honestly you can't really make a statement of which race is the strongest or not. it is almost perfectly balanced at this point.

Yes I agree with you.

And also, why not put a link to the most recent balance statistics report ?

Toss units are in average the strongest on a per unit basis and I feel like it makes people inconsciously feel the protoss race is too strong.

Players feelings about balance and the actual balance are quite different things imo.

Reading TL threads has convinced me there is a pretty large majority of terrans here. So in addition to this poll, I think "what race do you play ?" would be quite useful too...

ElMacedonian

United States79 Posts

March 14 2012 04:43 GMT

#28

it bother anyone else how there is no option in the poll for game is fairly balanced?

S2Lunar

1051 Posts

March 14 2012 04:47 GMT

#29

Protoss. By FAR Protoss.

samurai80

Japan4225 Posts

March 14 2012 04:49 GMT

#30

On March 14 2012 13:05 ChairManMao467 wrote:
For PvT the matchup is actually quite stale imo. Build colossus, transition into chargelot HT and get storm based on number of bases. You mess up micro=you lose. You micro decently=you win.

I really agree with this. Obviously micro is always important, but in the case of protoss because of the units cost, it's always very hard to recover from a micro miss on the battle field, harder than for the other races imo.

Anyway I think the game is balanced, every race has strong and weak points. It would be interesting to do this poll with random players only.

power-overwhelming

Canada306 Posts

March 14 2012 04:50 GMT

#31

This is very misleading. 1/1/1 still beats any Protoss any day. The reason why GSL is losing to Protosses is because for majority of 2011 it was all tvtvtvzvzvtvt. Now that a few Protosses got in, these Terrans and Zergs haven't figured out how to deal with them and are losing. Nothing really changed as far as balance goes. Terran is still the MOST COMPLETE race with the best defense and offense. Zerg still has the easiest macro less use of micro.

Protoss IS STILL BLAND. One dimensional.

samurai80

Japan4225 Posts

March 14 2012 04:51 GMT

#32

On March 14 2012 13:43 ElMacedonian wrote:
it bother anyone else how there is no option in the poll for game is fairly balanced?

o.O I didn't even notice but you're right !

Glowinglight

United States76 Posts

March 14 2012 04:53 GMT

#33

On March 14 2012 13:50 power-overwhelming wrote:
This is very misleading. 1/1/1 still beats any Protoss any day. The reason why GSL is losing to Protosses is because for majority of 2011 it was all tvtvtvzvzvtvt. Now that a few Protosses got in, these Terrans and Zergs haven't figured out how to deal with them and are losing. Nothing really changed as far as balance goes. Terran is still the MOST COMPLETE race with the best defense and offense. Zerg still has the easiest macro less use of micro.

Protoss IS STILL BLAND. One dimensional.

Games exist out side of the GSL though.

GhandiEAGLE

United States20754 Posts

March 14 2012 04:57 GMT

#34

Do note Zerg is never the highest

Grohg

United States243 Posts

March 14 2012 05:02 GMT

#35

I think late game Protoss is what is strong. Throughout most of the game, it isn't as bad but their upgrades ramp up cost effectiveness of every unit significantly. Not to mention upgrades are universal to every ground unit. When only two upgrades are required to increase army effectiveness in conjunction with chronoboost, Protoss reaches late game tech quicker with higher damage output. It's just been recently that most Protoss players have learned extremely effective transitions through their tech trees. Army composition now is horrifyingly good with every piece of the puzzle being available after 20 mins.

MorroW

Sweden3522 Posts

March 14 2012 05:06 GMT

#36

rofl why would you make a poll like this its pretty ridiculous imo :/ only brings forward hatred and rage of people thats only arguments they have to back it up is their opinion and personal experience

i hope everyone realize this poll is not to be taken serious ^^

but seeing how there is no neutral option to take in the poll i guess that just means this was made for fun. anyway, i voted for protoss :-)

lolol thank you for that post. very amusing