EPTWhich race is the strongest right now? - Page 11
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YouMake
United States262 Posts
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MichaelDonovan
United States1453 Posts
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nobuild
United States39 Posts
On March 15 2012 10:35 MichaelDonovan wrote: I think this poll is a little messed up. Redo it with a better title which is specific about whether we are talking BW or SC2 please. Otherwise this poll means very little. hahahaha bw.... actually though he has a good point. but upon results of the quiz... well no one thinks P is op in BW. | ||
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EsMuyVien
United States408 Posts
P > Z P > T So probably Protoss. | ||
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docvoc
United States5491 Posts
EDIT: with 3 of the top 5 players being zerg and the top player in the world being zerg i still guess its zerg. | ||
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BearStorm
United States795 Posts
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Fencar
United States2694 Posts
Protoss is easy in the late-game, but harder in the early game because of the insane amount of things Terran can do. The reason for this is, Terran can do things like hide their second supply depot when they're going 1-1-1 to make the Protoss think you're going to 2-rax him. That said, it doesn't change the fact that Terran is stronger in all stages just because of the huge micro potential in their units. The Marine is the most obvious example. In PvZ I would have to say Zerg can still do things with mutas, just so long as they don't over-commit to them. It does take a while to tech to Fleet Bacon, after all. | ||
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Cassel_Castle
United States820 Posts
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Svennedude
Belgium86 Posts
On March 14 2012 13:28 Alethios wrote: Terrans are clearly the strongest race. Just look at Flash. (Not to mention Boxer, Nada and iloveoov himself). lol were talking about starcraft 2 here... not bw and from what i've seen early game terran has its advantages mid protoss late protoss because colossus just a move... combine that with a bit of forcefield micro and storms and it becomes really hard to beat a protoss as terran. standpoint from a zerg who often likes to play random^^ | ||
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RooStaR
United States58 Posts
In a game that depends so heavily on economy, Zerg is the best race. They lose all their drones? Spend a prouction cycle on drones, now back ahead in drones. Terrans have mules and Protoss has chrono. You know how to limit mules? Make terrans scan. Show them 1 burrowed baneling, you don't even have to make 1 more baneling. Zergs get to make ALL units out of their hatchery. They are a reactionary race and can stock pile minerals until the last minute to come up with the best combination to counter with. People think Ultras are awful, but maybe people should use infestors with Ultras before complaining. Fungal use with Ultras is amazing. I'm rambling, but my point is race population will decide the poll. There are more zergs, so they'll be third. There more terrans than protoss, so terran will be second. Bias rules polls. | ||
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FuzzyJAM
Scotland9300 Posts
On March 15 2012 13:50 RooStaR wrote: The problem with a poll like this is bias. People never want to blame their own shortcomings on themselves. In general, people are too weak to admit that they lost because they weren't good enough. This poll will probably end up in the order of race population; the race with the highest population will be last. In a game that depends so heavily on economy, Zerg is the best race. They lose all their drones? Spend a prouction cycle on drones, now back ahead in drones. Terrans have mules and Protoss has chrono. You know how to limit mules? Make terrans scan. Show them 1 burrowed baneling, you don't even have to make 1 more baneling. Zergs get to make ALL units out of their hatchery. They are a reactionary race and can stock pile minerals until the last minute to come up with the best combination to counter with. People think Ultras are awful, but maybe people should use infestors with Ultras before complaining. Fungal use with Ultras is amazing. I'm rambling, but my point is race population will decide the poll. There are more zergs, so they'll be third. There more terrans than protoss, so terran will be second. Bias rules polls. Simply wrong. Terran is the least played race. Aside from that, I play Terran and still voted Terran as the strongest race. Not everybody is unable to make objective decisions. | ||
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Fizzy
Sweden388 Posts
Most people who win against me just keeps pressure up and makes alot of expansions, sooner or later you are gonna have way superior economy and just trash the protoss army. I voted for Zerg just because i usually have problems against 3base zergling/baneling into broodlords. This build seems like it just require you to a-move your units and not rly care about what happens so it seems pretty imbalanced to me. Alltho im just a casual player on a high-platinum / low-diamond lvl atm, things might be totally different in other leagues. | ||
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Zrana
United Kingdom698 Posts
On March 15 2012 13:50 RooStaR wrote: The problem with a poll like this is bias. People never want to blame their own shortcomings on themselves. In general, people are too weak to admit that they lost because they weren't good enough. This poll will probably end up in the order of race population; the race with the highest population will be last. In a game that depends so heavily on economy, Zerg is the best race. They lose all their drones? Spend a prouction cycle on drones, now back ahead in drones. Terrans have mules and Protoss has chrono. You know how to limit mules? Make terrans scan. Show them 1 burrowed baneling, you don't even have to make 1 more baneling. Zergs get to make ALL units out of their hatchery. They are a reactionary race and can stock pile minerals until the last minute to come up with the best combination to counter with. People think Ultras are awful, but maybe people should use infestors with Ultras before complaining. Fungal use with Ultras is amazing. I'm rambling, but my point is race population will decide the poll. There are more zergs, so they'll be third. There more terrans than protoss, so terran will be second. Bias rules polls. Well that whole post just reeks of bias. Sure if z gets behind they can just pump out a load of drones. But that just opens up a huge timing window because you just spent 2k minerals on drones (which btw would not be instant unless its super late game or you're playing like shit with a huge bank anyway). Lets talk about what terran does when they get behind shall we? Mules do not open up a timing. Zerg have a much harder time killing a terran who is behind than vice versa. If the T has siege mode and good sim city you basicallly can't attack them until hive tech or you run a quite high risk of losing your whole army very cost-ineffectively. If you get ahead of a terran you still have to play as if the game is even, you can expand a little more but you're still very vulnerable to losing a huge amount of eco from drops or hellions (which are much cheaper and often much more effective then muta). If somehow the T gets a third up he can make it a planetary and you have to commit a fuckton of gas into taking it out, else he just gets to 3base and then you're really screwed. If the terran gets ahead he just walks into your base and kills you. I know that sounds like a whine, but if you take out the emotion i'm basically saying I think T is most powerful atm because they have more tools to allow them to come back when behind. | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
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sixnoluv
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4Relic
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Nadril
68 Posts
If my opponent makes no attempt to attack me or harass me in any way than I have an easy game. It's true. As a protoss I like to be able to tech just like I want and get my army composition that I want. However if a player does aggression and does it decently it becomes a whole other story. Suddenly I need to make sure I have just enough sentries and I need to make sure that I'm dropping great force fields. Spam too many, I run out of energy and die (or I make too many sentries and have a horrible army). A missed force field can cost you a game. Once I have to deal with a ton of mutalisks, or super aggressive roach/ling pressure, or a lot of these really strong Terran MMM timings.. it gets much more difficult and much more micro oriented. That's the only thing I wish people would realize. Protoss just feel weak early on. Sadly, as well, with the way the protoss army is our late game composition is incredible... but really good micro can deal with it. So we're stuck with being called "EZ Imba noob" on the ladder while Protoss still struggles in tournaments like the GSL. For the poll I voted zerg, as I think ZvT and ZvP is really good for them right now. Looking at players like DRG and Stephano, they just seem to be ridiculously strong in both match ups. (Also I think that no matter what month this poll would be posted Protoss would always be voted as most imba. Even when we sucked ass people called us imba) | ||
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mokumoku
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INTOtheVOID
United States225 Posts
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Faranth
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