Yes I agree with you.

And also, why not put a link to the most recent balance statistics report ?

Toss units are in average the strongest on a per unit basis and I feel like it makes people inconsciously feel the protoss race is too strong.

Players feelings about balance and the actual balance are quite different things imo.

Reading TL threads has convinced me there is a pretty large majority of terrans here. So in addition to this poll, I think "what race do you play ?" would be quite useful too...

Yeah I agree poll your race before you answer question. Although I am unbiased towards balance

CCa1ss1e

Canada3231 Posts

March 14 2012 22:55 GMT

#183

I think it's pretty balanced.. but that archon toilet is just ridiculous, imo.

XD

System42

172 Posts

March 14 2012 23:00 GMT

#184

ROFL if you think zerg is op compared to the other races you need to quit this game now.

Skoop

United States214 Posts

March 14 2012 23:11 GMT

#185

Protoss is filled with so much ambiguity that I'm currently just taking a break from the game. The strength of their 2 base all ins against Zerg mixed with the lack of information I can gather is very tough. But I know the meta game will shift, so I'm just cooling off atm

horsebanger

141 Posts

March 14 2012 23:21 GMT

#186

I can't believe TL actually hosted this poll.

ComusLoM

Norway3547 Posts

March 14 2012 23:27 GMT

#187

Assuming same skill, a terran should never lose to a protoss. All other matchups are perfectly balanced.

This just shows right now the general playing population are finally starting to lose maybe 4/10 games against protoss where they would normally lose only 2 or 3 games out of 10. TvP and ZvP are changing but at same skill they're not favored for protoss right now because zerg and terran have more options and more ways to outplay the protoss (just like tvp in BW). While TvZ has stayed the same for a long long time with terran getting a somewhat sizeable ghost nerf recently (probably accounting for 80% of the players that voted Zerg being the best race.

NotTheMonker

United States131 Posts

March 14 2012 23:34 GMT

#188

Is this poll about SC2 or Brood War?

I think Terran has been strong for a while in Brood War, but Protoss seems the best right now in SC2.

SaGa-

United States50 Posts

March 14 2012 23:36 GMT

#189

I think it is really funny when bronzies complain about balance, I think it should be pros that show which race is the strongest, or what this thread turned into, Imbalances.

Shield

Bulgaria4824 Posts

March 14 2012 23:36 GMT

#190

Assuming perfection is achieved, I think Terran has no limits due to micro.

ulan-bat

China403 Posts

March 14 2012 23:55 GMT

#191

On March 15 2012 08:36 darkness wrote:
Assuming perfection is achieved, I think Terran has no limits due to micro.

That and floating buildings.

Voted protoss though because the poll is about right now and how you feel.

zelevin

United States300 Posts

March 15 2012 00:17 GMT

#192

On March 14 2012 12:24 Greenei wrote:

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you should definatly be a statistics professor!

One of the best comments ever.

Corsica

Ukraine1854 Posts

March 15 2012 00:17 GMT

#193

On March 14 2012 12:27 MildSeven wrote:
Protoss is unbelievably strong at the moment, and they've only just started learning how to use their full arsenal effectively.

lol what? Protoss always used all their units, same with Zerg, its Terran who use same compostions since beta...

Corsica

Ukraine1854 Posts

March 15 2012 00:19 GMT

#194

Why there is poll like this??? We have win-rates for ladder, and we can watch each tourney to see who won it...I guess now we will listen to all bronzies who dont know how to deal with colossi/banelings/siege tanks rage here...

CrazyF1r3f0x

United States2120 Posts

March 15 2012 00:21 GMT

#195

For a site the advocates that we shouldn't have balance arguments, this is a sure fire way to start one; I wonder if this poll thread will get closed because of the resulting flame war ;P
EDIT:

On March 15 2012 07:09 OmnIMinD wrote:
Strongest race : the race most people just lost to.

Wiser words never spoken^^
And my last loss was to a Terran player, so they must be the strongest!

jkang

United States404 Posts

March 15 2012 00:48 GMT

#196

I play Protoss, and IMO: Protoss is the easiest race to play, Zerg requires the most understanding of the game out of the three but it's more 1-A than Protoss, Terran has the most unique builds and is the most forgiving.
Protoss's macro is just warp in units, chrono buildings such as robo and forge, and make probes. Other two races aren't that much harder imo, but Protoss is probably the easiest.
Zerg doesn't need the best micro to win a game. Muta micro isn't too different than Phoenix micro (which actually requires more time micro'ing cuz of lift), and everything else is just 1-A. In fact, you don't even need to micro after fungaling.
Terran: Lost scv's? mules. Natural threatened? lift CC. Lost depots or forgot to make them? drop with orbital.

FuzzyJAM

Scotland9300 Posts

March 15 2012 00:53 GMT

#197

Terran is still the most powerful, it's just hard to use well.

Zerg seems about right as of now, though ZvP sucks.

Protoss is still a terrible race, but not OP.

NMxSardines

77 Posts

March 15 2012 01:04 GMT

#198

I feel like most people can't tell a difference between an overpowered race and a simple change in meta-game. It means that one race, Protoss at the moment, has experienced a surge in wins due to figuring out how to effectively counter the style of the other two races. Once the rest of SC2 figures out the weaknesses in the new Protoss' builds and strategies, then wins will shift in favor of Terran or Zerg. That's how new builds are made for every race, due to the constant need to adapt to new meta-game of their opponents.

Based from what I know, I think that no race has been horribly overpowered in a very long time(if at all). There have been some small hitches - like Zealot build time or Sniper Round damage, but nothing that can be abused so to call it 'overpowered.'

dCc

Canada86 Posts

March 15 2012 01:15 GMT

#199

Protoss has definitely gotten stronger lately, there is no doubt about that. But it seems that Terran is still ahead of them for the time being.

ulan-bat

China403 Posts

March 15 2012 01:21 GMT

#200

As of yesterday or so, TLPD gives the following winrates for march 2012:

Games from the international TLPD only
Terran 50.8% (196-190)
Zerg 50.7% (243-236)
Protoss 48.4% (200-213)

TvZ: Terran 49.6% (112-114) Zerg 50.4% (114-112)
TvP: Terran 52.5% (84-76) Protoss 47.5% (76-84)
PvZ: Protoss 49.0% (124-129) Zerg 51.0% (129-124)

Games from the korean TLPD only
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Terran 38.6% (17-27)
Zerg 63.8% (30-17)
Protoss 46.9% (23-26)

TvZ: Terran 28.6% (6-15) Zerg 71.4% (15-6)
TvP: Terran 47.8% (11-12) Protoss 52.2% (12-11)
PvZ: Protoss 57.7% (15-11) Zerg 42.3% (11-15)

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