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Ninfofan
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico18 Posts
March 14 2012 22:44 GMT
#181
The only people who's opinions should count are the random players, they do get a taste of every race and how strong they are
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iiGreetings
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada563 Posts
March 14 2012 22:49 GMT
#182
On March 14 2012 13:42 samurai80 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2012 12:56 ForgeLife wrote:
protoss is SUPER weak in the early game. other than that they are the strongest, but honestly you can't really make a statement of which race is the strongest or not. it is almost perfectly balanced at this point.

Yes I agree with you.

And also, why not put a link to the most recent balance statistics report ?

Toss units are in average the strongest on a per unit basis and I feel like it makes people inconsciously feel the protoss race is too strong.

Players feelings about balance and the actual balance are quite different things imo.

Reading TL threads has convinced me there is a pretty large majority of terrans here. So in addition to this poll, I think "what race do you play ?" would be quite useful too...

Yeah I agree poll your race before you answer question. Although I am unbiased towards balance
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CCa1ss1e
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
March 14 2012 22:55 GMT
#183
I think it's pretty balanced.. but that archon toilet is just ridiculous, imo.

XD
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System42
Profile Joined August 2011
172 Posts
March 14 2012 23:00 GMT
#184
ROFL if you think zerg is op compared to the other races you need to quit this game now.
Skoop
Profile Joined March 2011
United States214 Posts
March 14 2012 23:11 GMT
#185
Protoss is filled with so much ambiguity that I'm currently just taking a break from the game. The strength of their 2 base all ins against Zerg mixed with the lack of information I can gather is very tough. But I know the meta game will shift, so I'm just cooling off atm .
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horsebanger
Profile Joined January 2012
141 Posts
March 14 2012 23:21 GMT
#186
I can't believe TL actually hosted this poll.
ComusLoM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Norway3547 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-14 23:29:58
March 14 2012 23:27 GMT
#187
Assuming same skill, a terran should never lose to a protoss. All other matchups are perfectly balanced.

This just shows right now the general playing population are finally starting to lose maybe 4/10 games against protoss where they would normally lose only 2 or 3 games out of 10. TvP and ZvP are changing but at same skill they're not favored for protoss right now because zerg and terran have more options and more ways to outplay the protoss (just like tvp in BW). While TvZ has stayed the same for a long long time with terran getting a somewhat sizeable ghost nerf recently (probably accounting for 80% of the players that voted Zerg being the best race.
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NotTheMonker
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States131 Posts
March 14 2012 23:34 GMT
#188
Is this poll about SC2 or Brood War?

I think Terran has been strong for a while in Brood War, but Protoss seems the best right now in SC2.
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SaGa-
Profile Joined May 2011
United States50 Posts
March 14 2012 23:36 GMT
#189
I think it is really funny when bronzies complain about balance, I think it should be pros that show which race is the strongest, or what this thread turned into, Imbalances.
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Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-14 23:37:18
March 14 2012 23:36 GMT
#190
Assuming perfection is achieved, I think Terran has no limits due to micro.
ulan-bat
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
China403 Posts
March 14 2012 23:55 GMT
#191
On March 15 2012 08:36 darkness wrote:
Assuming perfection is achieved, I think Terran has no limits due to micro.

That and floating buildings.

Voted protoss though because the poll is about right now and how you feel.
"Short games, shorts, summer weather, those things bring the heat!" - EG.iNcontroL
zelevin
Profile Joined January 2012
United States263 Posts
March 15 2012 00:17 GMT
#192
On March 14 2012 12:24 Greenei wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2012 12:21 disgruntled187 wrote:
look at the breakdown of Code S next season,
1. Terran
2. Toss
3 Zerg.


Seems like a fair reflection of the current balance argument.


you should definatly be a statistics professor!

One of the best comments ever.
Corsica
Profile Joined February 2011
Ukraine1854 Posts
March 15 2012 00:17 GMT
#193
On March 14 2012 12:27 MildSeven wrote:
Protoss is unbelievably strong at the moment, and they've only just started learning how to use their full arsenal effectively.


lol what? Protoss always used all their units, same with Zerg, its Terran who use same compostions since beta...
Corsica
Profile Joined February 2011
Ukraine1854 Posts
March 15 2012 00:19 GMT
#194
Why there is poll like this??? We have win-rates for ladder, and we can watch each tourney to see who won it...I guess now we will listen to all bronzies who dont know how to deal with colossi/banelings/siege tanks rage here...
CrazyF1r3f0x
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2120 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-15 00:28:22
March 15 2012 00:21 GMT
#195
For a site the advocates that we shouldn't have balance arguments, this is a sure fire way to start one; I wonder if this poll thread will get closed because of the resulting flame war ;P
EDIT:
On March 15 2012 07:09 OmnIMinD wrote:
Strongest race : the race most people just lost to.

Wiser words never spoken^^
And my last loss was to a Terran player, so they must be the strongest!
"Actual happiness always looks pretty squalid in comparison with the overcompensations for misery."
jkang
Profile Joined May 2011
United States404 Posts
March 15 2012 00:48 GMT
#196
I play Protoss, and IMO: Protoss is the easiest race to play, Zerg requires the most understanding of the game out of the three but it's more 1-A than Protoss, Terran has the most unique builds and is the most forgiving.
Protoss's macro is just warp in units, chrono buildings such as robo and forge, and make probes. Other two races aren't that much harder imo, but Protoss is probably the easiest.
Zerg doesn't need the best micro to win a game. Muta micro isn't too different than Phoenix micro (which actually requires more time micro'ing cuz of lift), and everything else is just 1-A. In fact, you don't even need to micro after fungaling.
Terran: Lost scv's? mules. Natural threatened? lift CC. Lost depots or forgot to make them? drop with orbital.
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-15 00:53:36
March 15 2012 00:53 GMT
#197
Terran is still the most powerful, it's just hard to use well.

Zerg seems about right as of now, though ZvP sucks.

Protoss is still a terrible race, but not OP.
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NMxSardines
Profile Joined February 2012
77 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-15 01:04:47
March 15 2012 01:04 GMT
#198
I feel like most people can't tell a difference between an overpowered race and a simple change in meta-game. It means that one race, Protoss at the moment, has experienced a surge in wins due to figuring out how to effectively counter the style of the other two races. Once the rest of SC2 figures out the weaknesses in the new Protoss' builds and strategies, then wins will shift in favor of Terran or Zerg. That's how new builds are made for every race, due to the constant need to adapt to new meta-game of their opponents.

Based from what I know, I think that no race has been horribly overpowered in a very long time(if at all). There have been some small hitches - like Zealot build time or Sniper Round damage, but nothing that can be abused so to call it 'overpowered.'
dCc
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada86 Posts
March 15 2012 01:15 GMT
#199
Protoss has definitely gotten stronger lately, there is no doubt about that. But it seems that Terran is still ahead of them for the time being.
ulan-bat
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
China403 Posts
March 15 2012 01:21 GMT
#200
As of yesterday or so, TLPD gives the following winrates for march 2012:

Games from the international TLPD only
Terran 50.8% (196-190)
Zerg 50.7% (243-236)
Protoss 48.4% (200-213)

TvZ: Terran 49.6% (112-114) Zerg 50.4% (114-112)
TvP: Terran 52.5% (84-76) Protoss 47.5% (76-84)
PvZ: Protoss 49.0% (124-129) Zerg 51.0% (129-124)

Games from the korean TLPD only
spoilered because of lack of games
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Terran 38.6% (17-27)
Zerg 63.8% (30-17)
Protoss 46.9% (23-26)

TvZ: Terran 28.6% (6-15) Zerg 71.4% (15-6)
TvP: Terran 47.8% (11-12) Protoss 52.2% (12-11)
PvZ: Protoss 57.7% (15-11) Zerg 42.3% (11-15)


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