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qwertzi
Profile Joined March 2011
111 Posts
February 15 2012 09:39 GMT
#41
I have paid for the first 5 GSL's or so, after I just didnt have the time to watch as much so I stopped paying.
But $20 for a weekend feels just like a lot!

Furthermore, why $20 when there such huge potential for ad revenue? If remember correctly from the "official" twitch.tv explanation (which I cannot find right now) the ad revenue is between $5-10 for 1k unique viewers.
Most big sc2 events have like 40kish viewers. Lets take the middle road for ad revenue $7.5.
That adds up to $300 per ad. I believe you can run at least 500 ads! Which would be $150000.
For every best of 3 broadcasted, the can be at least 1 commercial before and right after every game. And then a couple between every set.
Which isnt a lot for free content. Taking that into account the offer for ad free content should be cheaper...
but well thats just me...
Laplaces_imp
Profile Joined January 2012
368 Posts
February 15 2012 09:54 GMT
#42
I understand that if the SC2 community is going to grow and get bigger and better tourneys, then more money needs to be put into the system. That being sad $20 for 3 days? I feel like MLG is not thinking about the long term here. If they charged $5 for three days, hardly anyone would complain, $20 on the other hand is not an insubstantial amount to pay and will cost MLG many viewers. I feel like if MLG charged less, more people would pay and they would wind up with about the same amount of money but ALOT more viewers, which in the long run will be more beneficial financially. I do support the idea of paying some money as it will result in more and better content but $20 is simply too big a price and i believe will stunt MLG's growth
how
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States538 Posts
February 15 2012 10:26 GMT
#43
The post on wellplayed sold the idea to me, to be honest I think this is a situation where if the tournaments colluded it would benefit them a lot, maybe make it 30$ or something, but include NASL, IPL, and GSL in it also, and the % of people who pay would probably jump up a lot.
http://twitter.com/howsc
JayIsImbA
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany54 Posts
February 15 2012 10:38 GMT
#44
I don't mind ppv, because that will make me pass my exams

Jokes aside, I think it's a bit too much for just one tournament.
"More gg, more skill!" WhiteRa
Dezire
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands640 Posts
February 15 2012 11:09 GMT
#45
well yeah, this will be a bitter pill to take, but if we want esports to go mainstream, there just has to money pumped in. more money = more interest from multinationals, which will mean more publicity to the open world. there just has to be some day that all of this amazing esports will stop beeing free for everyone.

i think we don't know it yet and we cant see it yet, but sundance is making a big step towards that goal. and in my opinion if theres someone we could leave our beloved sc2 too, to manage this game into the big open hard world of business, it will be sundance.

so eventho im very sad that i wont be able to watch mlg simply cuz i cant afford it atm. i think sometime we will see that this was the right choice by mlg.
BoxeR, HuK, IdrA, Minigun, MVP <3
Diab
Profile Joined October 2011
Denmark320 Posts
February 15 2012 12:46 GMT
#46
Don't mind PPV, but I'm not going to use $20 on it I won't be able to watch it anyway so not to bothered by this..
"He who laughs most, learns best." - John Cleese
Qbyx
Profile Joined November 2007
Romania210 Posts
February 15 2012 13:11 GMT
#47
On February 15 2012 08:09 eXigent. wrote:
man there seems to be such an uproar about shelling out a measly $20. I can make that in less than an hour at work...why are people soo thrifty? I guarantee 99% of you have spent $20 on something alot stupider than a MLG ticket.


It's too bad most people here is hardly making 20$ a day.
Mr Showtime
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1353 Posts
February 15 2012 13:19 GMT
#48
On February 15 2012 08:01 NexaS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2012 07:53 VIPlol wrote:
I feel like most people in this community wants everything to be handed out free to 'em :S

By "this community", you mean the internet, right?


Well the community exists within the internet........ so what are you saying exactly?
Mr Showtime
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1353 Posts
February 15 2012 13:24 GMT
#49
I don't mind the PPV model because the content they produce is worth the money. $20 is pretty steep for a first go at it. MLG is a great organization and I know they can put on a production that's worth the cost. HOWEVER, if they fuck this up, it's highly unlikely that I throw a single dollar at them in the future.

"Don't fuck it up"
- JP McDaniel
Kompicek
Profile Joined May 2008
Czech Republic245 Posts
February 15 2012 14:03 GMT
#50
Not really problem with paying, i have already payed for the HQ streams, but this is way too expensive, will miss this MLG.
sotaporo
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland195 Posts
February 15 2012 14:08 GMT
#51
i was about to buy gold membership for this year and decided to buy it few days before this arena but because of this ppv thing i won't buy gold or ppv. i don't think ppv is bad format but this thing now feels like i am buying for example cable tv channel but then i have to buy certain series separately. + imo mlg streams ain't worth 20$
inermis
Profile Joined September 2010
353 Posts
February 15 2012 14:18 GMT
#52
to be honest, i thought MLG gets enough money from all the advertisments. also no discount for people with mlg subscription is an odd move to say the least, i'm really intereseted how many people will actually pay that, in my opinion, they would get more if they stayed with free stream and more people watching = more ad revenue, but good luck.
play hard go pro
Ohjay
Profile Joined October 2009
Germany83 Posts
February 15 2012 14:27 GMT
#53
I won´t buy this ticket. I think this guys are way too greedy and the price is way more than what can be considered a fair price.
iiGreetings
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada563 Posts
February 15 2012 14:40 GMT
#54
On February 15 2012 11:24 Love and Justice wrote:
If I pay for the MLG PPV will there still be commercials?

Count on it lol
Adapt and React I MKP, PartinG, EffOrt ♥
D4V3Z02
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany693 Posts
February 15 2012 14:44 GMT
#55
They should just put in more advertisements when they need money, this is the wrong way.
http://www.twitch.tv/d4v3z02 all your base are belong to overlord
D4V3Z02
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany693 Posts
February 15 2012 14:46 GMT
#56
On February 15 2012 22:19 Mr Showtime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2012 08:01 NexaS wrote:
On February 15 2012 07:53 VIPlol wrote:
I feel like most people in this community wants everything to be handed out free to 'em :S

By "this community", you mean the internet, right?


Well the community exists within the internet........ so what are you saying exactly?


I think he means that "this community" could be meant TL and there are more ppl watching mlg than just TL.
http://www.twitch.tv/d4v3z02 all your base are belong to overlord
Atlan___
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany38 Posts
February 15 2012 15:21 GMT
#57
I do miss the option i will never pay to watch stuff on TV or in the internet.
Orpheus1982
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2 Posts
February 15 2012 15:21 GMT
#58
Sorry, this is way to expensive. I promise technical problems as always, commercials as always. For 20$ they have to provide something really special. I dont like it and i will not support it in any way.
Mr.Sn0w
Profile Joined January 2011
2 Posts
February 15 2012 15:44 GMT
#59
The MLG Winter Arena PPV Event is not included in any of MLG’s current Membership packages.

What the hell?

I hope that this Arena is an exception. If not I will never gonna pay to MLG again.
Garoodah
Profile Joined January 2012
United States56 Posts
February 15 2012 16:14 GMT
#60
I think MLG is trying to make esports into a larger market far too quickly. The people who are already involved in esports get great content for a small fee, and the free content is still amazing. Esports barely has enough people in it to start sucking money out of it, and most of the people involved are happy waiting for free content. I play starcraft for fun and watch tournaments to support my favorite players and cheer them, not to pay some company to just watch. If i want to support anyone it will be the players, either through watching streams or donating.
"Oh man we've got GG-lords"
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