EPTHow do you feel about MLG's new PPV model? - Page 2
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soujiro_
Uruguay5195 Posts
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Corsica
Ukraine1854 Posts
=2520 thats only 126 ppl, i guess they just hungry for money, so even if small amount (say 5000) will buy this ticket then they have 5000*20 =100,000 in revenue which is nice... Standard capitalistic nature for love of money i guess  | ||
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Corsica
Ukraine1854 Posts
On February 15 2012 12:26 soujiro_ wrote: awesome idea, hope more events do the same are you fckn seriuos?????????? | ||
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DarkMatterUK
United Kingdom33 Posts
Theres less quantity than GSL (games-wise and potentially player wise) Theres a better atmosphere at IPL (live crowd is gone) It costs more than Assembly (the same weekend) So whilst I can understand the need for MLG to make money from these events which are undoubtedly expensive to run. Theres the risk of Losing SO many fans who have been dedicated to watching MLG events in the past and unfortunately I do feel this could be construed as damaging for e-sports (im not saying it is) but if you think about it, YES - MLG will make more money from just 5,000 people paying than from non-paying 60,000. But, as a promoter, advertising your event with the estimated online (LIVE) audience of 5,000 is much less appealing as an event pulling in 60,000-70,000 viewers. Thats my view though, and from forums it seems to be the general feedback, but who knows, people may pay! Buuuut.,, it could bomb pretty bad, but this is a new season, new ideas, and a new venture for e-sports, if it works and it proves viable to make a substantial profit (if any) from an event like MLG then that could prove incredible for the scene, even if it did ruffle some fans feathers | ||
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TheSubtleArt
Canada2527 Posts
On February 15 2012 08:09 eXigent. wrote: man there seems to be such an uproar about shelling out a measly $20. I can make that in less than an hour at work...why are people soo thrifty? I guarantee 99% of you have spent $20 on something alot stupider than a MLG ticket. Cause not every makes $20 in less than an hour? I'm a first year uni student still looking for my first job and thinking of taking a student loan to move out soon...definitely not gonna cough up $20 for a weekend event when there's equally good content out there for free... | ||
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Corsica
Ukraine1854 Posts
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
then, they announce a relatively expensive PPV for one tournament soon after. absurd PR moves. i will pay if i am actually going to be able to watch it (i.e., at home), but less than happy about it. could have handled the situation better. at the end of the day though, i pay more for dinner with my g/f, so $20 is not that big of a deal. | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On February 15 2012 13:03 Corsica wrote: only 10 % will pay...thats 64+62 = x * 20 =2520 thats only 126 ppl, i guess they just hungry for money, so even if small amount (say 5000) will buy this ticket then they have 5000*20 =100,000 in revenue which is nice... Standard capitalistic nature for love of money i guess shame on a business to try and make money off its product. mlg started out small with sc2 and has invested a lot of money into making it a bigger and better tournament. they should be able to profit off their investment. the market will determine whether it is successful. | ||
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Havik_
United States5585 Posts
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starslayer
United States696 Posts
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Stipulation
United States587 Posts
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Cyber_Cheese
Australia3615 Posts
Why is there no 'PPV sucks' option? | ||
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havox_
Germany442 Posts
On February 15 2012 10:15 red4ce wrote: MLG wants to turn esports into big business? Fine, I'll evaluate my purchasing decision the same way I do in real life. MLG has one competitor which offers more and superior content at the same price and another competitor which offers a slightly inferior product for free. Guess which one I'm not choosing. this, so true. although i dont mind them trying. its their event, their money. but i will for sure not pay 20 bucks a weekend - even though there are obviously many other things for which i would even pay $20 per hour. but red4ce is absolutely right - doesnt make economical sense to pay for it. | ||
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y0su
Finland7871 Posts
On February 15 2012 16:19 havox_ wrote: this, so true. although i dont mind them trying. its their event, their money. but i will for sure not pay 20 bucks a weekend - even though there are obviously many other things for which i would even pay $20 per hour. but red4ce is absolutely right - doesnt make economical sense to pay for it. Although I also agree with the reasons I will not make the purchase, I do think that for a lot of NA fans having an event in your time zone makes a big difference in value. I think MLG is banking on that (as well as premium pass sales). I wouldn't be surprised if this is a success and I worry that other events will do the same. | ||
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Titan_Ansiminus
United States27 Posts
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taitanik
Latvia231 Posts
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Arikast
United States2 Posts
In general I don't have a problem with them charging extra for the weekend because of how much they are putting out to make this thing happen (player travel, event organizing, etc) but, as others have said, $20 is simply too much at this point in SC2 history. Considering how high the quality is likely to be, I would be ok with $10. There absolutely should, however, be either a discount for current MLG subscribers or a Platinum subscription that costs a tad bit more but also includes all of the arenas in addition to the Gold subscription content. MLG is first and foremost a business. That means they exist to make money. That also means they should be careful in what they charge for their services considering the youth of the community they are selling their service to. Yes, the SC2 tourney system stands on the shoulders of BW, but a huge portion of the SC2 community has just come onto the scene because of SC2 and SC2 alone. It is a tribute to the community that we are able to support so many excellent tournaments and LANs and not have them fail left and right from lack of funds. Those companies have to realize they need to be careful with such a fledgling community, however. More and more people are coming onto the SC2 scene but the more money overall they have to spend to do so, the less likely new people will want to shell out the cash to do so. Now you might say: "Well, if someone is scared of paying 20 bucks to see the arena, they have plenty of other options." That has never been more true than now. People have plenty of options and most of them have a free option for a lower quality experience. Let me make the case for MLG in the US (as I can't speak for our European friends). I put forward the case that thousands upon thousands who wouldn't even consider watching someone play a video game online, much less pay for it, have at least heard of MLG. One day they hear about SC2 from someone they know and think "Huh, that sounds pretty cool." They look it up online and lo and behold they find TL. They open up the page and are immediately overwhelmed by all the information about IEM, GSL, IPL, MLG, Assembly, Dreamhack, etc. They don't quite understand why people outside Korea are called foreigners but they do "know" they don't understand Korean so the GSL isn't going to be for them (they don't know anything about GOM at this point). Hey! They have heard about MLG, though, so they decide to stick with something familiar. They may not know much about MLG, but at least they've heard of it. They go over to the right side of the MLG front page, click on the tourney link, click on SC2, see that they have to pay 20 bucks for something they know nothing about for 3 days worth of content and close out the webpage. As a business, of course MLG is going to push stuff like this. Unless a new person has someone walking them through where to go and what to do, however, someone new to the system is not going to know about VODs and things like the Day9 daily which are completely free. They aren't going to know that most tournaments offer free streams that are lower quality. They are only going to see the $20 price tag for 3 days, and like many of us, think it is too much. Unlike us, they aren't going to stick around to find out more and be active in the community, they are simply going to click the X in the top right-hand corner of their screen and go about their day. Whenever they hear about SC2, they'll think about the price and move on. MLG is not doing anything wrong in this. In 2-5 years that will probably be the norm. The community is simply not yet at that point. As they completely understand their role in the community, they need to watch how they present themselves in situations like this one. I'm sure they'll come out with a statement on it, but they obviously have some thinking to do. | ||
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Cronusd
Finland19 Posts
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Musicus
Germany23580 Posts
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short
Sweden148 Posts
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